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Propaganda Department is a right-leaning creative writing server for us amateurs out there to help develop our writing skills. If you're interested in writing a short story, novel, or just like world building, feel free to join! Once we have enough members, I'd like to start doing weekly writing exercises and group novel studies. Check it out here:
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ft Charlemagne?
Nah, I just quoted one of his videos
And one of Moldbugโs essays
didn't know you had a channel
promoted!
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwRqHwudqsY I made a video about "Never Again" and basically how we can use the left wings and cathedrals biggest weapon against right wing dissidents that being the Holocaust and use it against them and to advance our cause of ethnic identity.
@WanderingRusski I don't really think that sort of verbal trickery works.
We didn't take from the lessons of the Holocaust that ethnic replacement/genocide is bad. We took from it that the West is evil and racist.
Ethnic genocide is a-okay in the Left's book. Just take a look at Vaush.
Thats the current way of looking at it, Bringing up the Holocaust is the biggest weapon that crushes any sort of "Far" right wing thought but if we appropriate it and use it as a way to advance the ethnic interests of peoples of European decent we can cut their biggest weapon and use its heavy moral weight in our favor. @Mister_Geocon
No, it's only an effective weapon against us.
We have to actually counter the Left wing's narrative if we want to actually... you know, counter it.
To me we counter the left wing narrative by changing in peoples minds the moral lessons of the Holocaust. Instead of them using this piece of history to wack us over the head we use it to advance our interests. Displacing, Dehumanizing and then Replacing a People in their homelands is a crime, Why do you want to do it to white people? That sort of thing. How would you counter it?
You will not convince a Leftist to shoot themselves with the bullet meant for you. Linguistic trickery does not work on them. Ignore the "Never Again" tactic or blow right past it with a stronger emotional argument.
@WanderingRusski I agree with Geocon on this. While I obviously agree that destroying and replacing Europeans is evil, you won't be able to use the Holocaust as an argument against it. On the contrary, the Holocaust is the very foundation of justification for what is being done to us today. The narrative goes that any ethnic pride by Europeans is evil because it will result in Auschwitz. This is the image that has been ingrained in people's minds from the Holocaust. It's why people are so afraid to join the dissident right. And there is ZERO chance you'll be able to change that because the very people who were the target of the Holocaust are the ones advocating for the destruction of the West today and they're using the Holocaust as their moral justification. They'll say it means Europeans are evil and they'll accuse you of being like Hitler (which they do). And their word on it matters more than anyone else's.
Here's how I approach it. While I acknowledge that the Holocaust was an injustice, it's not historically unique in any way and it's only been so ingrained in the public consciousness to push the anti-white agenda. No one alive today needs to feel guilty over it. Everyone has the right to maintain their own self-determination and what our ancestors did is irrelevant because killing is so common throughout history. I also go on the offensive and I accuse them of using the Holocaust, which happened decades ago, to justify evil in the present day.
@WanderingRusski No wonder I felt that there was something wrong with the video but I didn't understand why other than you using the word "genocide" to describe the displacement of Europeans. In addition to what Geocon and Endeavour said (which was something I couldn't have thought of sooner) most normal people and the far-left dismiss the genocide as a conspiracy theory by fascists and Neo-Nazis.
However, at the same time, the far left admits in the _mainstream media_ that the demographic shifts are a good thing. Meaning when a right winger says that about demographics, it's bad and conspiratorial to the far left but it's good when a left winger says that. That's why we should avoid the term "white genocide" and refer to it as "the great replacement" or "demographic displacement". It just sounds like bad optics to the public that isn't aware of it yet.
New video:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3VnxUx45bhmb/
Yeah I agree @Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) optics and how we present our arguments are really important. If we focus on the right of groups of people being able to preserve their identity we will win. If they make us out to be jew hating holocaust deniers then the public could just easily dismiss us as knuckle dragging neo Nazis.
@Endeavour I think I'll agree that we shouldn't use the holocaust as the main sticking point or mention it first but if someone does bring it up to discredit our ideas or during the week of "Holocaust rememberence" we have a way we can twist the argument towards our favor. Remember we can't let the left define the moral paradigm. Our options for when they bring up this event is either deny it (not good factually or optically) or twist the moral message to our favor
@WanderingRusski Yeah, but if you tried to say that the Great Replacement is akin to the Holocaust, every Jewish organization under the sun would denounce you and claim that by opposing immigration, you're doing what the Nazis did. Depending on how influential you are, they might even try to sue you or get you charged with hate speech. They own the whole "never again" narrative and they decide what it means. They've decided that "never again" means Europeans can never again be proud of their civilization and try to preserve it. Like I said, my strategy is to just say that it's irrelevant accuse of them of using Hitler and the Holocaust to justify evil. The idea is to get the Hitler card to lose it's effect.
@WanderingRusski Here's a good video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGYPBRBiV4
The point is that the Holocaust has been ingrained in white people's minds for a very specific purpose, to prevent them from advocating their own interests. The goal needs to be to simply remove the wiring.
True
Jews want to hold us, just like with anyone else, under their control.
Also the great replacement is not a a genocide
They aren't litterally killing us
Hyperbole won't get you anywhere
@Skellington Well, it is if we are using the UN definition of the word of counting ethnic replacement as genocide.
hmmm
@Skellington To be clear, I agree with you that the word "genocide" is hyperbolic but this is what they said about the Ameridians from both North and South America but at the same time, don't care about Turkey denying the Armenian and Greek genocide.
@Skellington So genocide doesn't have to be about killing, it can be about Replacing a population.
Under the UN definition (as gay as the UN is) the replacement is considered a genocide.
If you don't want to use some other term "extinction" I think is appropriate substitute.
Using the word genocide is hyperbolic and UN definition semantics aren't rhetorically convincing. I even struggle with "Replacement" even though it's a better descriptor.
Dispossession is the word I would use
When you evoke the word genocide, everyone has a mental image of what that looks like. That image doesn't match isn't happening in the West so it's easy to dismiss the speaker.
Replacement evokes imagery as well that actually kind of works. It passes the emotional and ethical argument check quite well.
'Replacement' gets a little harder to argue around the logical argumentation because on the micro level, nobody is being literally replaced. Everyone is still here, minus those murdered by our new neighbors. Of course on the macro level, a population is being replaced. But then again, white people don't exist, race is a social construct, and it all doesn't matter anyway bigot.
@Zemo 'Dispossession' and 'Reciprocation' are much easier to work with. I don't know if either of them pack quite the emotional punch that genocide or replacement have. So you're playing for less stakes basing an appeal on either of those.
I went a little insane making this
Is it just me or do these longer videos do better than the shorter ones?
I guess the algorithm likes it
I give some personal advice on how i defeated my Nihilism. So if any of yall are struggling out there this video is for you ๐
Shed flesh and embrace undeath
New video premiering, my dudes @everyone
thanks
sweet
identity politics bad
individual identity good
(also im a nationalist)
~liberalists
but have you read loki
-soygon
i love how he worships locke, yet, afaik, most of his arguments rely upon god and religion
sorry
loki i mean
but you can just secularise it maaaaan
god not needed lol
yes, Locke uses the Bible a lot to defend his case, from memory he does this more in the first treatise on government then the second
Locke is a retard
Lowkey loki
his actual philosophical work was more interesting then his political work
@Starfield ^^^
Oh hello there
a writing server
might be good
Sounds interesting, ill join
Probably a bad idea that I went on here
Yes!.
@clossington How did it go!.
It crashed immediately
Lol, going to reschudule?.
Nah, going back live in 30 min
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Sutely, bring the vodka into the conversation.
Iโve got a vodka and sprite
Yes!.
Y'all gotta start making better drinks
God damn
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