Message from @Zemo

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2020-02-03 18:27:41 UTC  

@WanderingRusski No wonder I felt that there was something wrong with the video but I didn't understand why other than you using the word "genocide" to describe the displacement of Europeans. In addition to what Geocon and Endeavour said (which was something I couldn't have thought of sooner) most normal people and the far-left dismiss the genocide as a conspiracy theory by fascists and Neo-Nazis.

However, at the same time, the far left admits in the _mainstream media_ that the demographic shifts are a good thing. Meaning when a right winger says that about demographics, it's bad and conspiratorial to the far left but it's good when a left winger says that. That's why we should avoid the term "white genocide" and refer to it as "the great replacement" or "demographic displacement". It just sounds like bad optics to the public that isn't aware of it yet.

2020-02-03 18:37:18 UTC  
2020-02-03 19:06:45 UTC  

Yeah I agree @Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) optics and how we present our arguments are really important. If we focus on the right of groups of people being able to preserve their identity we will win. If they make us out to be jew hating holocaust deniers then the public could just easily dismiss us as knuckle dragging neo Nazis.

2020-02-03 19:13:09 UTC  

@Endeavour I think I'll agree that we shouldn't use the holocaust as the main sticking point or mention it first but if someone does bring it up to discredit our ideas or during the week of "Holocaust rememberence" we have a way we can twist the argument towards our favor. Remember we can't let the left define the moral paradigm. Our options for when they bring up this event is either deny it (not good factually or optically) or twist the moral message to our favor

2020-02-03 19:56:28 UTC  

@WanderingRusski Yeah, but if you tried to say that the Great Replacement is akin to the Holocaust, every Jewish organization under the sun would denounce you and claim that by opposing immigration, you're doing what the Nazis did. Depending on how influential you are, they might even try to sue you or get you charged with hate speech. They own the whole "never again" narrative and they decide what it means. They've decided that "never again" means Europeans can never again be proud of their civilization and try to preserve it. Like I said, my strategy is to just say that it's irrelevant accuse of them of using Hitler and the Holocaust to justify evil. The idea is to get the Hitler card to lose it's effect.

2020-02-03 19:57:08 UTC  
2020-02-03 20:01:53 UTC  

The point is that the Holocaust has been ingrained in white people's minds for a very specific purpose, to prevent them from advocating their own interests. The goal needs to be to simply remove the wiring.

2020-02-03 20:46:22 UTC  

True

2020-02-03 20:47:49 UTC  

Jews want to hold us, just like with anyone else, under their control.

2020-02-04 06:38:44 UTC  

Also the great replacement is not a a genocide

2020-02-04 06:38:58 UTC  

They aren't litterally killing us

2020-02-04 06:39:11 UTC  

Hyperbole won't get you anywhere

2020-02-04 15:19:00 UTC  

@Skellington Well, it is if we are using the UN definition of the word of counting ethnic replacement as genocide.

2020-02-04 15:19:21 UTC  

hmmm

2020-02-04 15:49:32 UTC  

@Skellington To be clear, I agree with you that the word "genocide" is hyperbolic but this is what they said about the Ameridians from both North and South America but at the same time, don't care about Turkey denying the Armenian and Greek genocide.

2020-02-05 17:47:27 UTC  

@Skellington So genocide doesn't have to be about killing, it can be about Replacing a population.

2020-02-05 17:48:31 UTC  

Under the UN definition (as gay as the UN is) the replacement is considered a genocide.

2020-02-05 17:49:40 UTC  

If you don't want to use some other term "extinction" I think is appropriate substitute.

2020-02-08 16:18:35 UTC  

Using the word genocide is hyperbolic and UN definition semantics aren't rhetorically convincing. I even struggle with "Replacement" even though it's a better descriptor.

2020-02-08 16:19:48 UTC  

Dispossession is the word I would use

2020-02-08 16:20:11 UTC  

When you evoke the word genocide, everyone has a mental image of what that looks like. That image doesn't match isn't happening in the West so it's easy to dismiss the speaker.

2020-02-08 16:21:30 UTC  

Replacement evokes imagery as well that actually kind of works. It passes the emotional and ethical argument check quite well.

2020-02-08 16:23:48 UTC  

'Replacement' gets a little harder to argue around the logical argumentation because on the micro level, nobody is being literally replaced. Everyone is still here, minus those murdered by our new neighbors. Of course on the macro level, a population is being replaced. But then again, white people don't exist, race is a social construct, and it all doesn't matter anyway bigot.

2020-02-08 16:27:01 UTC  

@Zemo 'Dispossession' and 'Reciprocation' are much easier to work with. I don't know if either of them pack quite the emotional punch that genocide or replacement have. So you're playing for less stakes basing an appeal on either of those.

2020-02-16 02:11:38 UTC  

I went a little insane making this

2020-02-16 04:30:08 UTC  

Is it just me or do these longer videos do better than the shorter ones?

2020-02-16 04:48:29 UTC  

I guess the algorithm likes it

2020-02-16 23:45:51 UTC  

I give some personal advice on how i defeated my Nihilism. So if any of yall are struggling out there this video is for you 🙂

2020-02-16 23:46:18 UTC  

Shed flesh and embrace undeath

2020-02-21 22:03:51 UTC  

New video premiering, my dudes @everyone

2020-02-21 22:03:56 UTC  

thanks