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@Endeavour I think I'll agree that we shouldn't use the holocaust as the main sticking point or mention it first but if someone does bring it up to discredit our ideas or during the week of "Holocaust rememberence" we have a way we can twist the argument towards our favor. Remember we can't let the left define the moral paradigm. Our options for when they bring up this event is either deny it (not good factually or optically) or twist the moral message to our favor
@WanderingRusski Yeah, but if you tried to say that the Great Replacement is akin to the Holocaust, every Jewish organization under the sun would denounce you and claim that by opposing immigration, you're doing what the Nazis did. Depending on how influential you are, they might even try to sue you or get you charged with hate speech. They own the whole "never again" narrative and they decide what it means. They've decided that "never again" means Europeans can never again be proud of their civilization and try to preserve it. Like I said, my strategy is to just say that it's irrelevant accuse of them of using Hitler and the Holocaust to justify evil. The idea is to get the Hitler card to lose it's effect.
@WanderingRusski Here's a good video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGYPBRBiV4
The point is that the Holocaust has been ingrained in white people's minds for a very specific purpose, to prevent them from advocating their own interests. The goal needs to be to simply remove the wiring.
True
Jews want to hold us, just like with anyone else, under their control.
Also the great replacement is not a a genocide
They aren't litterally killing us
Hyperbole won't get you anywhere
@Skellington Well, it is if we are using the UN definition of the word of counting ethnic replacement as genocide.
hmmm
@Skellington To be clear, I agree with you that the word "genocide" is hyperbolic but this is what they said about the Ameridians from both North and South America but at the same time, don't care about Turkey denying the Armenian and Greek genocide.
@Skellington So genocide doesn't have to be about killing, it can be about Replacing a population.
Under the UN definition (as gay as the UN is) the replacement is considered a genocide.
If you don't want to use some other term "extinction" I think is appropriate substitute.
Using the word genocide is hyperbolic and UN definition semantics aren't rhetorically convincing. I even struggle with "Replacement" even though it's a better descriptor.
Dispossession is the word I would use
When you evoke the word genocide, everyone has a mental image of what that looks like. That image doesn't match isn't happening in the West so it's easy to dismiss the speaker.
Replacement evokes imagery as well that actually kind of works. It passes the emotional and ethical argument check quite well.
'Replacement' gets a little harder to argue around the logical argumentation because on the micro level, nobody is being literally replaced. Everyone is still here, minus those murdered by our new neighbors. Of course on the macro level, a population is being replaced. But then again, white people don't exist, race is a social construct, and it all doesn't matter anyway bigot.
@Zemo 'Dispossession' and 'Reciprocation' are much easier to work with. I don't know if either of them pack quite the emotional punch that genocide or replacement have. So you're playing for less stakes basing an appeal on either of those.
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