What do you have to say

Or are you just gonna go to your mommy and scream 'dead jew on a stick reeeeeeeee I want tendies'

@Deleted User
Hur dur
jews bad therefore Christians bad cause they claim to be the real Jews and the other ones are evil HUR DUR Christians Are Jews Hur dur.

Edict of Thessalonica. Look it up

@James B Hollingsworth Christianity bad because it committed genocide against Eurpeans btw

@Deleted User Are toy retarded

They didn't kill Europeans because they were Europeans, they killed any violent savages they came across

They killed them for believing in their native European religion, so yes they killed them because they were holding on to their European roots. They also killed each other for the same reasons, Native Europeans however, never killed each other over religion.

@Deleted User No, they weren't holding European roots, paganism isn't European it's satanic and must be purged

Yes, Paganism is the Native European religion and worldview, Christianity is an immigrant religion from the middle east. If it's satanic, then Europe is natively satanic therefore according to you all Europeans must be purged. If not, please define 'Satanic' to me

Anything religion that isn't Christian

European identity is Christian not pagan, paganism is degenerate and homosexual

European identity in its earliest and grassroots form is pagan and largely satanic

Depending on the ethnic group in question

This aint universal

This doesn't mean it's the ideal European identity

If European identity is Christian then why are Albanians **Muslim**? They're European as well. Paganism does not in the very least promote degeneracy, it's a native religion, there is nothing less decadent than original roots

Original =\\= Ideal

@Deleted User Because of the ottoman empire

And Albanians can hardly be considered European

Ideal?
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil:
but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right
cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:39)

**Matthew 5:39 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<39> But I say to you, Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; ```

Albanians are European who just happen to believe in another religion. Christians, catholics more specifically do not practice pure christianity. In fact, Catholicism has largely pagan roots

You don't resist because they are never supposed to be in a position to threatened you in the first place

Exodus 22:2

**Exodus 22:2-4 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

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<2-4> He must pay for what he stole. If he owns nothing, he shall be sold as a slave to pay for what he has stolen. If the stolen animal, whether a cow, a donkey, or a sheep, is found alive in his possession, he shall pay two for one."If a thief is caught breaking into a house at night and is killed, the one who killed him is not guilty of murder. But if it happens during the day, he is guilty of murder. ```

Exactly, it preaches tolerance, a feminine virtue.

Bible permits resistnce in self defense

The Bible does not preach tolerance

It preaches justicee, Prudence, morality, not tolerance

Also if we speak about degeneracy... Let's look at these (Judges 19:22-30)

**Judges 19:22-30 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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Gibeah’s Crime

<22> While they were enjoying themselves, the men of the city, a perverse lot, surrounded the house, and started pounding on the door. They said to the old man, the master of the house, "Bring out the man who came into your house, so that we may have intercourse with him." <23> And the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, "No, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Since this man is my guest, do not do this vile thing. <24> Here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do whatever you want to them; but against this man do not do such a vile thing." <25> But the men would not listen to him. So the man seized his concubine, and put her out to them. They wantonly raped her, and abused her all through the night until the morning. And as the dawn began to break, they let her go. <26> As morning appeared, the woman came and fell down at the door of the man's house where her master was, until it was light. <27> In the morning her master got up, opened the doors of the house, and when he went out to go on his way, there was his concubine lying at the door of the house, with her hands on the threshold. <28> "Get up," he said to her, "we are going." But there was no answer. Then he put her on the donkey; and the man set out for his home. <29> When he had entered his house, he took a knife, and grasping his concubine he cut her into twelve pieces, limb by limb, and sent her throughout all the territory of Israel. <30> Then he commanded the men whom he sent, saying, "Thus shall you say to all the Israelites, 'Has such a thing ever happened since the day that the Israelites came up from the land of Egypt until this day? Consider it, take counsel, and speak out.'"```

Ah yes just rip a verse with no context

Jesus also shows intolerance towards hypocrites

And towards those that deal with money on holy ground

yeah

He got physically violent

He shows tolerance to the ignorant, to those that don't know any better

He does not show tolerance to the hypocrites

Matthew 23:25

**Matthew 23:25 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

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<25> "How terrible for you, teachers of the Law and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You clean the outside of your cup and plate, while the inside is full of what you have gotten by violence and selfishness. ```

Yet the church didn't show any tolerance towards the "heathens" did they?

Little note: Heathen. Someone who lives in the 'heath'. Heath derived from Norse Heiðr meaning honour.

@Deleted User They showed tolerance to heathens that were willing to convert

Those that fought back were promptly put to rest

So no tolerance for those not willing to convert. Therefore not tolerance.

Yes

That is good

Also the church has brought nothing but ignorance to Europe. Sent it to a dark age. There was nothing but stagnation until the enlightenment where artists and men of science sought to revive old pre-christian values.. which the church still considered to be "heretical"

The dark age is a misnomer

There was as much scientific advancement during the middle ages as during Renaissance

The Renaissance was kicked off when Irish *Christian* priests, who kept records of Roman literature and history spread it throughout Europe after the black death

Learn history

Christianity started the Renaissance

(((science)))

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@Wiktor VI Science is a God-Given tool to us to better understand his creation which has been corrupted by money and ideology

People call it like that for a reason, it was characterized by a period of stagnation. The church had its hold over the kingdoms of Europe. The Black Death specifically was the reason why the church lost its influence. People were losing faith in god, engaging in degenerate behaviour (notice the similarity with modernity) then artists sought to enlighten new ways of thinking, some bad, some good, but a progress non the less. Such roman records were held by the church all along hence the stagnation. They can't claim the credit for something they had a hold on then released that's ridiculous

wrong

science is a mistake

the neanderthal society is the most european

to be european is to be a neanderthal

only HOMO sapiens come from africa

i am 100% neanderthal

@Deleted User Yes they can

It is a myth that the middle ages had less innovation than the Renaissance

Indeed, we wuz neanderthals n shieet. And our native beliefs stem from the same neanderthal beliefs. Obviously these beliefs were beliefs in nature, science.

This is a historical fact, the middle ages had the same arguably more innovation than the Renaissance

The church kept Europe from being degenerate until absolute chaos reined with the black death

And when then they kept it fairly under control

The church was already enlightened, they then released the works which spread across Europe to the masses

And the educated members of society were already in a Renaissance forever since they had the access to the Roman works. And virtually all the works of inspiration came from the Christian era of Rome, not the pagan era

Tolerance is not a Christian value. Charity, justice, mercy, prudence, honesty--these are Christian values.

Centuries of infighting within the different sects of the church instead of exploring, like the vikings did is hardly what I would call innovation. Again they were Roman works, not clerical works. Claiming credit for something that was their work is a huge insult to their memory. All of Rome was not Christian. Only the ruling class was. Everyone else, who those works were written upon, their society, culture and beliefs were Pagan.

No, virtually all the surviving works of art and literature that were used in the Renaissance were Christian texts or written by Christians. It is Christian. The Vikings were not innovative, they were backwards societies that could not build a civil society and relied on brutality and savageness and to thrive.

Wrong not all of them. Many were also written by the non christian emperors, Julius Caesar being the most notorious. However, it is no surprise a large part of such works were written by Christians later on, since they reserved education only to the clergy, instead of the masses. Again, proof of their responsibility for the intellectual stagnation.

@Deleted User I never said all

I said virtually all, over 90%

God is fake news

lole

@Riley Oh yes an intellectual discussion, mostly, and you just barge in with "lole"

@Riley mfw lel

@Deleted User Im willing to have an intellectual discussion

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝

What is the worst translation of the Bible? Show some examples of terrible verses

message version

probably MSG

Any form of translation is heresy

post above is silly

The entire thing

Cotton Patch Bible is my vote

After they had checked out, the Lord's messenger made connection with Joseph in a dream and said, "Get moving, and take your wife and baby and highball it to Mexico." -- Matthew 2:13

This guy John was dressed in blue jeans and a leather jacket, and he was living on corn bread and collard greens. Folks were coming to him from Atlanta and all over north Georgia and the backwater of the Chattahoochee. And as they owned up to their crooked ways, he dipped them in the Chattahoochee. -- Matthew 3:4-6

**Matthew 2:13 - New American Standard Bible (NASB)**

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The Flight to Egypt

<13> Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord *appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, "Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him."```

**Matthew 3:4-6 - New American Standard Bible (NASB)**

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<4> Now John himself had a garment of camel's hair and a leather belt around his waist; and his food was locusts and wild honey. <5> Then Jerusalem was going out to him, and all Judea and all the district around the Jordan; <6> and they were being baptized by him in the Jordan River, as they confessed their sins. ```

@Oboe Sure but that's what happens when you have an atheist doing the religion daily questions lol

If you have ideas for questions I'd love to hear

what?

I meant the guy saying that any translation is heresy

you are a silly man!

Oh I see

How many of you guys are atheists

cringe

On the mod team only myself and DrRisen

ateism is cring!!!! 😠

Finnish music is cringe

Agreed

I'd say any translation translated from the Alexandrian family ought to be considered as inferior but that's just me

Atheist gang

person above is cringe

person above is cringe

person above is cringe

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Officially uncringed

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lol

KJV is disgusting

and any translation of the "Old Testiment" into english out of hebrew and aramaic is garbage to begin with

Can't tell what is the worst version, but I do know the most accurate.

The Martin Luther German translation is closest to the original doctrine you can get without losing meaning. Unless you want to learn multiple languages such as Greek and Hebrew to read the original texts.

>luther

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the closest is DRA

luther literally takes stuff out

@Crazed Shotgun German is a terrible rendition of both Hebrew and Greek

as a speaker of both Hebrew and Greek..

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ESV is pretty good

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝

- Should Christianity have an earthly central authority or be congregational? How would you realistically implement either or universally?

I don't think religion should be a thing at all

yikers

>german is a terrible rendition of both hebrew and greek

as a language scholar you just posted cringe bro

Lol okay chief

Put up some credentials

@Deleted User same. Religion is anti-science

its holding us back

Hmmmm

Religion or religious people

yes

both

they are both bad

Modern day religious people

And all of them?

A Catholic priest came up with the big bang theory and great expansion theory

thats not what i mean by anti-science

And genetics was another catholic discovery (pretty sure don’t quote me)

Oop

>most scientific advances in history were made by Christians

>anti-science

OK

they believe without evidence

that is anti-science

they come to a conclusion then they misrepresent facts to back said conclusion

Science can only prove things about the material world, agree?

they have been hostile towards evolution, big bang cosmology, and radiometric dating

I believe in science without reason

and this hostility does not arise from scientific errors within the theories

they arise from superstition

Most people have faith in science without ever seeing the evidence for themselves

Which is anti-science

oh really? like who

If you look at Catholic teaching specifically it argues that science is one of the most important ways we have to learn about the material world

Atheists

and in what ways

And religion in the ancient times was explicitly supporting the philosophy of the time, which included that form of science

the difference between "faith in science" and "faith in God" is that if you really wanted, you could find empirical evidence backing your "faith in science"

for instance, I know that the star Proximia Centari is 4 lightyears away

I know this because scientists have calculated its distance

Tell me how you arrive at an epistemology for science, using science. @Riley

if I really wanted, I could get a good telescope and observe the parallax of the aformentioned star and calculate its distance

please elaborate

Does science exist qua science?

I still don't understand what you are trying to ask

Prove science is a system of belief and not a method of belief

are we talking about the scientific method?

We are taking about science as you put it

the science i am talking about is coming to conclusions based on observations and experimentation. I would call this a method of belief

Okay

Can you use that method to prove anything outside of the material world?

Well I can't answer that. We don't know if an immaterial world even exists!

nothing exists outside the material world

Can you prove that with science?

everything is a result of underlying material processes

Either one does not exist, or we are not able to use science to observe it

So then why would we use science to justify a belief about something science can't prove?

well can you tell me why science cannot make predictions about the immaterial world

then can you tell me how one would know if an immaterial world exists

the immaterial is incoherent

It can't because science can only rely on material observations

And I personally think you can prove it using logic but that's a can of worms I don't have time for

inferring from language twisting

what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

ive heard the logical arguments for God, they are all dumb

my favorite is presuppositionalism lmfao

"God is real because God is real"

checkmate atheists

they call it "epistemological circularity" and they claim its valid reasoning <:xD:595715666129190922>

@el pebble the scientific method is explicitly to "observe" something. Unless you're a psychic and not lying about it I doubt anyone can make a non material observation

Not until they're dead

through material observation we can assert there is no immaterial

because everything is material

Lmao

nothing in this universe is immaterial

I agree

The immaterial exists not inside the universe

pretending there is something transcendent is just pretending

Would you say that it’s LARP?

looking at rape porn

Hmm

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This server has some cool emojis

anywho I have yet to see evidence for God. Belief in something without evidence is not scientific

therefore religion is anti-science

I want to beat the person that added these emotes

@lachlan 🥀 steal them for my server

Do you want a pic of god

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@Riley

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sure

I have a pic of god

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@Riley

There you go lad

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the shroud is a meem

this is god

Ok next atheist

like what does it even prove

Qur’an time

Go stick a banana up your butt

You wanted some empirical proof

That'll prove God

🙏

how tf do you even know thats Jesus

even if it was Jesus, how does it prove he was the son of God

I think Jesus was a real person

Because he told us 🤞🤞🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

but I don't think he was GOd

I never said son of god bro

I never said Jesus

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I said God

but

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