Message from @Wiktor VI

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2019-07-22 18:20:18 UTC  

Matthew 23:25

2019-07-22 18:20:20 UTC  

**Matthew 23:25 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

```Dust


<25> "How terrible for you, teachers of the Law and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You clean the outside of your cup and plate, while the inside is full of what you have gotten by violence and selfishness. ```

2019-07-22 18:21:46 UTC  

Yet the church didn't show any tolerance towards the "heathens" did they?

2019-07-22 18:23:00 UTC  

Little note: Heathen. Someone who lives in the 'heath'. Heath derived from Norse Heiðr meaning honour.

2019-07-22 18:23:55 UTC  

@Deleted User They showed tolerance to heathens that were willing to convert

2019-07-22 18:24:07 UTC  

Those that fought back were promptly put to rest

2019-07-22 18:25:05 UTC  

So no tolerance for those not willing to convert. Therefore not tolerance.

2019-07-22 18:26:46 UTC  

Yes

2019-07-22 18:26:48 UTC  

That is good

2019-07-22 18:27:25 UTC  

Also the church has brought nothing but ignorance to Europe. Sent it to a dark age. There was nothing but stagnation until the enlightenment where artists and men of science sought to revive old pre-christian values.. which the church still considered to be "heretical"

2019-07-22 18:27:57 UTC  

The dark age is a misnomer

2019-07-22 18:28:36 UTC  

There was as much scientific advancement during the middle ages as during Renaissance

2019-07-22 18:29:35 UTC  

The Renaissance was kicked off when Irish *Christian* priests, who kept records of Roman literature and history spread it throughout Europe after the black death

2019-07-22 18:29:39 UTC  

Learn history

2019-07-22 18:29:45 UTC  

Christianity started the Renaissance

2019-07-22 18:30:40 UTC  

(((science)))

2019-07-22 18:30:42 UTC  

😬

2019-07-22 18:31:34 UTC  

@Wiktor VI Science is a God-Given tool to us to better understand his creation which has been corrupted by money and ideology

2019-07-22 18:36:45 UTC  

People call it like that for a reason, it was characterized by a period of stagnation. The church had its hold over the kingdoms of Europe. The Black Death specifically was the reason why the church lost its influence. People were losing faith in god, engaging in degenerate behaviour (notice the similarity with modernity) then artists sought to enlighten new ways of thinking, some bad, some good, but a progress non the less. Such roman records were held by the church all along hence the stagnation. They can't claim the credit for something they had a hold on then released that's ridiculous

2019-07-22 18:37:09 UTC  

wrong

2019-07-22 18:37:14 UTC  

science is a mistake

2019-07-22 18:37:36 UTC  

the neanderthal society is the most european

2019-07-22 18:37:41 UTC  

to be european is to be a neanderthal

2019-07-22 18:38:04 UTC  

only HOMO sapiens come from africa

2019-07-22 18:38:12 UTC  

i am 100% neanderthal

2019-07-22 18:38:27 UTC  

@Deleted User Yes they can

2019-07-22 18:38:54 UTC  

It is a myth that the middle ages had less innovation than the Renaissance

2019-07-22 18:39:09 UTC  

Indeed, we wuz neanderthals n shieet. And our native beliefs stem from the same neanderthal beliefs. Obviously these beliefs were beliefs in nature, science.

2019-07-22 18:39:13 UTC  

This is a historical fact, the middle ages had the same arguably more innovation than the Renaissance

2019-07-22 18:39:47 UTC  

The church kept Europe from being degenerate until absolute chaos reined with the black death

2019-07-22 18:39:58 UTC  

And when then they kept it fairly under control

2019-07-22 18:41:15 UTC  

The church was already enlightened, they then released the works which spread across Europe to the masses

2019-07-22 18:42:32 UTC  

And the educated members of society were already in a Renaissance forever since they had the access to the Roman works. And virtually all the works of inspiration came from the Christian era of Rome, not the pagan era

2019-07-22 18:46:40 UTC  

Tolerance is not a Christian value. Charity, justice, mercy, prudence, honesty--these are Christian values.

2019-07-22 18:47:50 UTC  

Centuries of infighting within the different sects of the church instead of exploring, like the vikings did is hardly what I would call innovation. Again they were Roman works, not clerical works. Claiming credit for something that was their work is a huge insult to their memory. All of Rome was not Christian. Only the ruling class was. Everyone else, who those works were written upon, their society, culture and beliefs were Pagan.

2019-07-22 18:50:46 UTC  

No, virtually all the surviving works of art and literature that were used in the Renaissance were Christian texts or written by Christians. It is Christian. The Vikings were not innovative, they were backwards societies that could not build a civil society and relied on brutality and savageness and to thrive.

2019-07-22 18:59:37 UTC  

Wrong not all of them. Many were also written by the non christian emperors, Julius Caesar being the most notorious. However, it is no surprise a large part of such works were written by Christians later on, since they reserved education only to the clergy, instead of the masses. Again, proof of their responsibility for the intellectual stagnation.

2019-07-22 19:03:06 UTC  

@Deleted User I never said all

2019-07-22 19:03:15 UTC  

I said virtually all, over 90%

2019-07-23 01:06:33 UTC  

God is fake news

2019-07-23 01:06:36 UTC  

lole