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WW2 GUYS!
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**QOTD** @everyone
Will the United States be able to maintain its global hegemony in the future? Why/why not?
No
No
All empires fall
No
No
doubt it
the US is bursting at the seams
No because there will be a revolution at some point
When we take over no more globalism
No because trump and gop are destroying the country
@Eno yes it will, we may be filled wth tranny fags but we still crush anyone who fucks with us
No, the US empire is already on decline and thankfully Trump is accelerating the process through withdrawal from imperialised nations and distancing himself from NATO
it's not globalism when you're the entire globe <:luv:591451841045463041>
*looks at obama care and the debt*
The modern empire is an economic web of international trade relations. The US isnโt centralized or smart enough to use the new levers of power
think of it this way
the usa became a top world superpower in 500 years
Looks at the debt which has increased exponentially since 2016
compared to 1 million years for some countries
Yet again Germany did it in 100
>500
>1 million
Then Hitler came
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> @Eno yes it will, we may be filled wth tranny fags but we still crush anyone who fucks with us
@Deleted User
lmfao brutal af
@TheChristmasCrusader hmmmmm good point
How long do you think it took the USSR to become a global superpower lol @Deleted User
fuck if i know
Humans haven't even existed 1 million years wtf are you talking about "fuhrer"
thousands sorry
What?
Not to mention the USA is just shy of 300 years old
The USSR was formed in 1917. By 1945 they were a global superpower equal to the USA @Deleted User
Idk about "equal"
But established well enough to rival it
Despite being a second world country at that point
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im a fucken idiot
i mean
the usa has some allies
i guess we could continue for a bit longer
Modern China also has developed global hegemony quite quickly
@Enigmaticโ Chromatic it sort of depends what how we are defining equal and by what standards in this case. In terms of scientific advancements in military and space technology they were very much ahead of the USA.
2nd world
The formation of the USSR was what made the term 2nd world
Yeah, but in terms of development not really
Many parts of the USSR were still third world level living conditions
Yeah
Siberia etc
The whole eastern part of Russia, and even many parts of the smaller SSRs below the RSFSR
Siberia isn't possible to civilize
Turks always try to be nomads
I think the US will split up
Some states might just leave
Yakuts and Altais aren't exactly possible to be civilized
I think US will fall but not soon
I think the next world power is unfortunately China
Already is
Given how poorly they handled corona, them being the #1 superpower is terrifying
A Outwardly Focused China is a menace
considering how easily it spread, they handled it pretty good
China very well could crash with the USA
@Enigmaticโ Chromatic Oh it is
Right now they're very hevaily dependent on us
Guess what happened?
I mean they are already outwardly focused in Africa and most of Asia despite having it in their white paper that they have no interest in global hegemony
China's economy getting shanked made our economy worse too
Mississippi is planning to unite all southern states into a military alliance
Iโm not joking
I don't really care for China at all, but I would wager the USA would have handled Corona even more poorly
Democrats would do something completely retarded, Republicans would deny it
If Coronavirus started in the US
Basically, they are inviting 7 states into an interstate compact
I agree Asami
This could expand to other states
This is the proposed 8 state alliance
Probably not, we're reaching the average age of most empires, so is many other nations. So collapse seems very probable for many other nations around the same time or very close together maybe ~5-10 years of each one. But I'm not a geopolitical expert
in some ways the NATO and the UN are obsolete and the only way the US has any say in geopolitics.
the EU is a local power in Europe and China is taking over Asia and Africa.
That said if the US falls the EU will fall as well.
China also has the 16+1 in the EU
In other words basically extends its empire into eastern europe
@everyone Daily Question ๐
- Should The US attempt to make a peace deal with the Taliban? If so what should the conditions be?
Yes
Yeah, letโs get out of there.
No, continue the way we are going and eventually nuke them.
1. The United States surrender all territory to Taliban control and all leaders in power are to be hanged and burned.
^
2. Peace
Fuck it, who cares what happens? Itโs Afghanistan
Yes, we're sending our men to certain death.
Nukes are our men?
who gives a shit about goat herders
stop shooting brown people in the desert and they'll leave you alone.
We should be more aggressive
Maybe a good old atom bomb.
yes, team up with the Taliban and Iran, destroy Israel
>nuking israel
@Deli.v2 we can destroy israel and the taliban
no
convert to Islam
in fact most of the US' problems can be solved by not meddling with desert dwellers.
Maybe get some Russians to commit treason and steal the Tsar Bomba.
we should convert to Shi'a Islam and team up with Iran to establish an eternal peace in the middle east by nuking Israel and Saudi Arabia
surrender afghanistan to china
Uh
Fuck it, nuke them.
peace with the Taliban now bruh
no more americans need to die for a war that's never going to end
1:28-1:40 unironically
Sharia now
Peace with the Taliban
Is this the one where he says go back to your own country
Nah
This is the one where he says "Israel has hypnotized the world, may allah awaken the people to the wrong doings of Israel and the United States."
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USA is the biggest terrorist organization and that's a fact
Yes
Pretty much.
@Electrum Well, by that logic every country is a terrorist organization
Is Switzerland?
Yes
Even the Vatican?
The Vatican is more of a terrorist organization than Switzerland tbh.
The fuck did I walk into?
Israel isn't a legitamite state
@QUASI-HOBBESSIAN all nations controlled by israel are terrorist organizations
yes.
It's more that other countries got roped into American desert adventures
Then again most Asian countries seem to be immune
can someone do a new qotd...!!
@everyone Daily Question ๐
- Is it preferable for a nation to be imperialist or isolationist? Why?
SHUT UP
@Small Man No U
Depends on the nation
yea
If they can afford it or not
depends
Yes
Isolationist
Isolation if affordable, Imperialism if necessary
Damn false dichotomy
For example Germany, France, Russia all need and must be imperialistic in some manner
Their borders arenโt that secure geographically
Making them venerable
America?
Nah theyโre fine
@Enigmaticโ Chromatic Well what's your preference?
Japan is fine
A mix of both
Ideally a nation should not absorb cultures too different from it's own
However, complete isolation is stupid.
A line of communication with like-minded leaders is ideal
So puppeted states rather than occupied?
anti-interventionist but not isolationist
Abolishing the nation state
Itโs bad to violate the sovereignty of countries
Isolationist
As much as I crack jokes about "retaking the empire" isolationism causes less trouble in the world.
Imperialism also gives less desirable people a reason to come to your country.
It shouldn't be entirely isolationist, but definitely not imperialist.
it should be whatever the damn historical situation demands
it's retarded to argue about how a country should be without taking into consideration what kind of situation it finds itself in
Imperialism is better than isolation
If you don't have the sufficient economic resources, industry and military organization and effevtiveness, (just like Italy during ww2), it is better to stay as a isolationist autarchy during a period of chaos (like Spain did), than to go into a "Blaze of Glory" with the probabilty of being completely destroyed (like Imperial Russia).
Isolationist cause it would be easier to justify rn plus what if the colonists decide to mate with the brownies, now you have a population problem
@everyone Daily Question ๐
**-** What is your view on the best way to solve poverty? Elaborate on specifics
free money
How do I become the greatest US Navy SEAL of all time?
@honey Murder all poor people
You canโt have poor people if people donโt exist
just print a lot of money and give it to @everyone
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kys @poor
@kwit_dat_Stalin Bright eyed observation.
So be it.
Kill all poor people!
we need poor people
so when they die off
survival of the fittest
no overpopulation
Overpopulation won't be much of a problem.
ehhhh
Or we kill all poor peopke
make camps
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No
Just shoot them
Target practice for the army
dude
waste of bullets
poor homes?
most government programs don't seem to work
the main issue is I think migrants applying for gibs.
germany tried that with the jews
waste of bullets
Not if we make it into exercise
why waste money when you can do a simpler method
Why waste money on gas when you can train your army
also
is doctor anon a communist?
hmm
kinda cringe
He's a former NazBol
So somewhere around there
hm
communism never worked
only lead to corruption with cucked leaders
isnt like capitalism isnt the same
Yeah just like every other ideology ever
we have corruption
its just
Capitalism is way more corrupt
we dont have to wait a whole day for a slice of bread
No because we don't get bread
We just get brainwashed with the illusion that if we work hard enough, we'll get rich
Communism didn't work cause it was cringe socially
Also the USSR was pre good for Russians
The USSR is a bad example of anything
Nah it's a good example
Pre successful
communism and capitalism are both kiked
Retard ^
If you want a good example of communism take a look a Cuba
Socialism gang
It's semi-successful
The USSR was good for Russians wdym
USSR was NAZBOL
It only failed in eastern Europe but that was kinda on purpose
USSR was closer to NazBol than it was to communism yeah
Tfw degeneracy
It went from NazBol to Market Socialism
Was never communist
It went from gay to nazbol to cringe
Just like your mother
It was NAZBOL under Stalin.
full on retard commie later on
Yea but at the beginning it was cringe
Do you mean bc of the NEP @OrthoGoat?
Cuba is the closest we have ever gotten to true communism
Wdym?
I donno much about that but I don't think that caused many problems
Lenin was cringe tho
Every country that isn't Nordic is cringe and corrupt and retarded and should nuke itself to death
> It went from gay to nazbol to cringe
Just asking due to the NEP being the economic model during the 20s of the U.S.S.R.
Nah
Bruh
Nord cope?
The best way to solve poverty is charity
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