@JackH670 - China's "green energy" push is all show. Their wind farms aren't even connected or being used.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/05/23/how-china-is-blowing-its-chance-to-lead-the-world-in-wind-energy/

But having more kids to keep up with the boomers will hurt longer term

Decrease in population would rape the economy but we'd bounce back eventually

@Samaritan well only the people who rely on welfare will die

the economy is fucked

Problem is China will become the world Hegemone in that time spam

we need long term solutions

A decreasing population only makes sense if you're willing to hang old people out to dry, and I'm not sure we're ready to do that.

Why wouldn't it

to fix it

It was inevitable we'd have lower birthrates compared to the generation that have 8-9 siblings

yeee belle is fucked

yeah

Yeah, but "lower birth rates" was supposed to mean 2.1 kids. Replacement rate. Steady population.

everything relies on china dying before they can get world hegemone

The next generation would be exponentially poorer

there is no reason why we should have more than 0.25 children per woman

I think we should have nuked China in the Korean war

everything will go back to norm during this century

@Tato - The Belle Delphine situation is fucking hilarious, TBH. Have you seen H3H3's video on it?

so why go for short term solutions that will only fuck us over in the short term

Slow decrease please

ye i have ;dddd

Ideally we should he at 4-5B people

when we could bet on china's downfall (which is basically our only hope) and go for the long term

i hope everyone who bought it will sue her

even if it's hard short term

That's not even the wests fault

ala brexit

short term fuck over

Its China and India with the large populations

long term benifit

Yeah they'll chill once they grow economically

China and India are sending people overseas by the boatload, so I wouldn't count on a downfall anytime soon.

Richer nations have lower birthrstes

@Arthur Grayborn Don't let them in

300 mil americans compared to what 1 billion ching chongs how many hundred thousands is that?

Yet again its communisms fault

jack that happens in individualistic countries

not in collectivist

china wont fall. they have a massive technological advantage in terms of green energy and so on

u cant rely on that

@Redneo that's all china's lies

China is survive because they are willing to kill as many people as it has to to survive

^

collective above all

Great leap forward 2 electric boogaloo

they must be divided

into smaller states

We can't fight china really

Or we can but no one would like it

and dunno bout ppl tbh nuke them i guess

most are waste of oxygen anyways

We'd have to deregulate our economy so we could compete with them

just stop trading with them

@Muten you can ignore reality but you wont be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. in the meantime, ill have moved away from here by then, probably to jamaica

and they will starve to death

We can't afford to

stop factories in china take them to europe or africa even

Since everything is make in China

@Redneo the reality is that china has lied a shit ton, especially in the last ten years

so it's safe to assume they are still lying

chinese buy shit load from germany to assemble finished product in china

only reason there are factories in china is cheap labor

which europe doesnt have

take industry to africa maybe

dunno how negros will manage do manufacture but

and I'm the autistic one

China is basically colonising africa right now

it is

not even

They are a planned econ and they are playing by the exact rules you are thinking by

so would be nice if we prevented them from colonising it

China's rules are pretending to play by the rules while secretly doing whatever the fuck it takes to get ahead of everyone else. Half of their wind farms aren't even connected. They just built it to boost their international reputation and pump up their economic numbers for a bit.

look we have 2 options get aggressive with china or just do what they do and basically become a clone of china

atleast

Tariffs. Literally just do tariffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2UBQArOa5c

those are the option in this chat

we dont want to be like china

China won't be able to colonize Africa if their economy implodes.

It might do first

it would be foolish from us to become like china

whats the point then just let them take over

But it won't if it can just buy out the west

defeat them on our terms, not theirs

^

Just create a NATO trading zone where the current "free trade" system applies. Everyone outside that zone gets hit with a 10% tariff on all products.

bc western economic collapses due to declining bitrates

ebb and flow

Which probably won't happen because if the importation of the 3rd world anyway

west got rid of its industry

we just won't grow and grow uncontrollably, like a cancer cell

thats the problem

Yeah, we have to rebuild it.

All of it.

fuck climate

and eco system

if u end up dead anyways

In ww2 China had what industry lol