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2019-09-14 22:54:51 UTC

Judicial power is vested in the various judiciaries of the United Kingdom, who by constitution and statute[7] have judicial independence of the Government.
The Church of England, of which the monarch is the head, has its own legislative, judicial and executive structures.
Powers independent of government are legally granted to other public bodies by statute or Statutory Instrument such as an Order in Council, Royal Commission or otherwise.
The sovereign's role as a constitutional monarch is largely limited to non-partisan functions, such as granting honours. This role has been recognised since the 19th century.
The Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 removed the monarch's authority to dissolve Parliament; however the Act specifically retained the monarch's power of prorogation.

2019-09-14 22:54:55 UTC

Some of the government's executive authority is theoretically and nominally vested in the sovereign and is known as the royal prerogative. The monarch acts within the constraints of convention and precedent, exercising prerogative only on the advice of ministers responsible to Parliament, often through the prime minister or Privy Council.
The royal prerogative includes the powers to appoint and dismiss ministers, regulate the civil service, issue passports, declare war, make peace, direct the actions of the military, and negotiate and ratify treaties, alliances, and international agreements. However, a treaty cannot alter the domestic laws of the United Kingdom; an Act of Parliament is necessary in such cases.
The Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, commonly known internationally as the UK Parliament, British Parliament, or Westminster Parliament, and domestically simply as Parliament or Westminster, is the supreme legislative body of the United Kingdom.
The Parliament of the United Kingdom is bicameral, with an upper house, the House of Lords, and a lower house, the House of Commons.
In modern times, real power is vested in the House of Commons; the Sovereign acts only as a figurehead and the powers of the House of Lords are greatly limited.

2019-09-14 22:55:47 UTC

@Broken Cocaine Bars ^^^^ there is your answer... so who is wrong?

2019-09-14 22:58:47 UTC

"Some of the government's executive authority is theoretically and nominally vested in the sovereign and is known as the royal prerogative. The monarch acts within the constraints of convention and precedent, exercising prerogative only on the advice of ministers responsible to Parliament, often through the prime minister or Privy Council."

2019-09-14 23:01:31 UTC

yes... that still means she has to follow rules... isnt above the law totally

2019-09-14 23:02:17 UTC

"the government's executive authority is theoretically and nominally vested in the sovereign and is known as the royal prerogative"

2019-09-14 23:04:59 UTC

continue reading after that tho

2019-09-14 23:36:29 UTC

Nuclear power.

2019-09-14 23:38:57 UTC

Has carbon capture ever presented any proof of concept?

2019-09-14 23:40:16 UTC

Not that I'm aware of, tbh.

2019-09-14 23:40:26 UTC

Trees seem to be the best for it, and young trees at that.

2019-09-14 23:41:43 UTC

Cut them down when they stop growing.
Bury the tree trunk and grow new tree
Rinse and repeat

2019-09-14 23:42:06 UTC

Nah, you use the tree for wood products.

2019-09-14 23:42:23 UTC

Other than that, yeah.

2019-09-14 23:51:54 UTC

Money well spend even if it does not work, it creates competent people in this area.

2019-09-14 23:59:56 UTC

Sadly most people just want the move the pollution overseas via outsourcing

2019-09-15 00:44:35 UTC

the way global warming was explained to me was with a feedback loop

2019-09-15 00:44:47 UTC

so I somehow imagine it won't actually be bad

2019-09-15 00:45:15 UTC

what will happen is we'll find that there's a counter-mechanism that prevents the globe from warming exponentially

2019-09-15 00:57:14 UTC

That and more of canada becoming arable and not frozen over

2019-09-15 00:57:39 UTC

not to mention Greenland, which was named, presumably, before the last ice age

2019-09-15 00:58:10 UTC

And the antarctic is still growing

2019-09-15 01:02:14 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613769462633463808/622598013356998687/doa20newspaper.jpg

2019-09-15 02:41:17 UTC

Intels new GPU (not larabeeeeeeeee REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)

2019-09-15 02:41:51 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613769462633463808/622623078450724874/larabee.jpg

2019-09-15 03:09:28 UTC

Look at these fags trying to starve the trees

2019-09-15 03:09:41 UTC

Release co2 to save the forests

2019-09-15 03:19:38 UTC

there is a counter-mechanism

2019-09-15 03:19:42 UTC

its called volcanic winter

2019-09-15 04:06:47 UTC

Letโ€™s do it

2019-09-15 04:06:54 UTC

Unlimited snow days

2019-09-15 04:08:09 UTC

my fellow negros may not like it

2019-09-15 04:08:20 UTC

they might decide to mutate

2019-09-15 04:10:47 UTC

My comfort zone for temperature is in the teens on both C and F. So I welcome our inevitable eternal winter

2019-09-15 05:04:31 UTC

What? Is it negative C?

2019-09-15 06:11:25 UTC

My comfort zone is Cยฐ is about 11-20ish

2019-09-15 06:12:10 UTC

20's being on the "a little too warm" side

2019-09-15 12:08:00 UTC

Great set of books

2019-09-15 12:08:55 UTC

> Spengler introduces his book as a "Copernican overturning" involving the rejection of the Eurocentric view of history, especially the division of history into the linear "ancient-medieval-modern" rubric. According to Spengler, the meaningful units for history are not epochs but whole cultures which evolve as organisms. He recognizes at least eight high cultures: Babylonian, Egyptian, Chinese, Indian, Mesoamerican (Mayan/Aztec), Classical (Greek/Roman), Arabian, and Western or European. Cultures have a lifespan of about a thousand years of flourishing, and a thousand years of decline. The final stage of each culture is, in his word use, a "civilization".

2019-09-15 16:15:05 UTC

ok guys

2019-09-15 16:15:35 UTC

Dr Pepper is the best soda, and Coca Cola is trash

2019-09-15 16:15:41 UTC

anyone disagree?

2019-09-15 16:22:41 UTC

Yeah

2019-09-15 20:47:28 UTC

So it looks like the bloodbath of diversity is finally hitting the ux industry, this will be fun, since they are the ones that design most products in big tech

2019-09-15 23:13:20 UTC

@nim.bm I know I am 50 messages behind. But no, you haven't had a revolution therefore your still in an archaic system.

2019-09-16 02:35:25 UTC

Coca Cola is good with rum

2019-09-16 02:36:02 UTC

Or for some reason as icecubes, even though the syrup separates weirdly

2019-09-16 06:30:18 UTC

@Nat did you just come on to discord drunk?

2019-09-16 06:34:13 UTC

Anyway, the point of a revolution of the people is, to accept the people's voices through a vote. None of which has been adjusted for the rights of the people. There is still a what could you call it; surfdom, peasant system - politeriate Vs bourgeois system in the UK. People, love that system. Now, they have to change it. Those whom don't want to, are voting remain. Those whom want devolution of certain powers, want to leave. This isn't just about Europe anymore. This is about constitution and fairness

2019-09-16 06:39:01 UTC

At the moment, I do feel sorry for those whom travelled to the UK illegally. Because now, they really have to consider leaving because this is going to become a revolt. There is just the Queen in power.

2019-09-16 06:43:17 UTC

@TEABAG!!! donโ€™t @ me, people were talking about coke and doctor pepper before your boring uninteresting opinions

2019-09-16 06:56:44 UTC

@Nat Both of those are shit tbh

2019-09-16 06:57:17 UTC

@Xaverius you are wrong

2019-09-16 06:57:43 UTC

Youโ€™re allowed to @ me because youโ€™re not teabag though

2019-09-16 10:34:50 UTC

I was aware that this was Palestra debates. I did not want to debate over soft drinks.

2019-09-16 10:46:37 UTC
2019-09-16 11:31:49 UTC

Coke adds life

2019-09-16 11:32:06 UTC

||red dwarf reference||

2019-09-16 17:51:35 UTC

A paper arguing that Boasian Anthropology, Freudian Psychology, Multiculturalism, Marxism and Left-Wing political movements in general are best understood in terms of Jewish group evolutionary strategy.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-018-0158-4

2019-09-16 17:54:49 UTC

Wrongthink squad has already got this on their radar

2019-09-16 17:55:00 UTC

They'll probably get the paper removed, force the editors to apologize and shut down the researchers PayPal, Credit Card, Patreon etc., apart from getting his degrees revoked, in a matter of months

meh, subjective crackpot racist pseudo science, if he gets cast out thats his problem, not ours<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-09-16 19:11:54 UTC

"Meh, Darwin is peddling heretic crackpot theories, if he gets cast out that's his problem, not ours <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>" - Pastor Thundercock, 1860

Darwin is relativly correct in his assesment of evolution, MacDonald is not correct in his subjective assertations of 'group evolution' and 'Jewish Genes'

I dont really give a crap what Yishai Fleisher thinks about jews and how they should behave

especially since this piece is just a vehicle for slinging mud against his political opponents

2019-09-16 19:35:57 UTC

Remember guys: race is more important then actual familiar relations. If your brother fucks an Asian and has kids with her, you should feel more related to some random white kids from across the street then to your nieces and nephews. Isn't modern ethno-nationalism smart?!

2019-09-16 19:40:34 UTC

.
I sometimes unironically think that this whole ethno-nat soft revival is low key endorsed by the fookin illuminati or some shit: "How do we atomize a multi-ethnic society to make it ezer to control, Phil? I know John! Let's convince them they should break their familiar bonds and identify along semi-arbitrary criteria that will allow us to market politics to them on a group-by-group basis and play them against one another". That or at least by cosmetics companies that want to create ez to track consumer groups, or some shit.

2019-09-16 19:40:56 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KOddPQc7hk Bolsonaro should have played this after his speech, when he got elected

2019-09-16 19:44:59 UTC

RED NEGRO'S RUNNIED RHODESIA

2019-09-16 19:45:14 UTC

althoguh thankfully mugabe is dead

2019-09-16 19:45:39 UTC

Hiya, I haven't been very active here, so not sure which channel this topic would be most appropriate in, but since this says "debates", I'll try my luck.
When did it cease to be sufficient for a family to be sustainable on a single income? Why ? Or was that never the case and the whole "man works" think is a myth?
Seems to me to be a fundamental flaw of our time that both parents in an average family are forced by circumstance to work. Maybe I am wrong, but in any case, sources and stats would be welcome.

2019-09-16 19:46:05 UTC

Unsung hero who tried to stahp the fall of S Africa:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janusz_Waluล›

2019-09-16 19:46:58 UTC

getting rid of apartied in South Africa was a mistake

2019-09-16 19:47:11 UTC

@Okojamos It never really worked except in a very specific historic and geographic frame, and only for some. It;s basically an American myth.

2019-09-16 19:47:26 UTC

since now the whites are getting fucked over

2019-09-16 19:48:07 UTC

we should have supported Rhodesia in bombing the Reds into oblivan

2019-09-16 19:48:31 UTC
2019-09-16 19:48:59 UTC

Mayo, ketchup and salad cream

2019-09-16 19:50:14 UTC

everyone is getting fucked over
not just the whites
lol

2019-09-16 19:50:24 UTC

@Okojamos Idfk, reading about History

2019-09-16 19:50:37 UTC

Women DID work

2019-09-16 19:50:38 UTC

always

2019-09-16 19:50:44 UTC

they just did different things

2019-09-16 19:51:01 UTC

and tended to work in the house to also be around the kids as they worked

2019-09-16 19:51:29 UTC

the revolution of the modern era is taking them out of the home, not making them work

2019-09-16 19:52:07 UTC

and even that is only true to some degree

2019-09-16 19:52:17 UTC

women did work outside of the home before

2019-09-16 19:52:29 UTC

it just wasn't as common as it is today

2019-09-16 19:53:06 UTC

So far the only thing that makes sense to me is that feminism is to blame. As usual.

2019-09-16 19:53:35 UTC

There was a whole international movement in the 19th century saying that a worker should be able to feed his family for his wage. Implying that he *couldn't*

2019-09-16 19:53:57 UTC

Waifu had to work too

2019-09-16 19:54:08 UTC

and the kids, in the case of the poorer ones

2019-09-16 19:54:28 UTC

which was also entirely common thru history

2019-09-16 19:55:44 UTC

The only time when a common man could feed his family for his wage was the post WWII era in the West

2019-09-16 19:56:10 UTC

At least that I know of

2019-09-16 19:56:50 UTC

If you look at tribes that live today

2019-09-16 19:56:58 UTC

it's not: 'fembots no work'

2019-09-16 19:57:15 UTC

it's: 'there is works that men do and there is different work that fembots do'

2019-09-16 19:57:34 UTC

specialization

2019-09-16 19:58:20 UTC

Dude goes out to hunt, gall goes fetch water and pick berries

2019-09-16 19:58:51 UTC

and at the end of the day they have a deer they can cook in the water and some berries for seasoning

2019-09-16 19:59:01 UTC

or something like that

2019-09-16 20:00:12 UTC

The idea that women don't work is just... Weird and outlandish...

2019-09-16 20:01:18 UTC

There are different types of work. There's taking care of your family at home, and there is slaving away for a faceless corporation for 60 hours a week.

2019-09-16 20:01:27 UTC

pretty much

2019-09-16 20:01:38 UTC

the think is technology made housework ez

2019-09-16 20:01:50 UTC

and/or superfluous

2019-09-16 20:02:00 UTC

no need to fix pants if pants are cheep af

2019-09-16 20:02:09 UTC

lol plus labour has continually been devalued

2019-09-16 20:02:35 UTC

So fembots felt pressured to go do more 'masculine' Jebs

2019-09-16 20:02:42 UTC

part by reality

2019-09-16 20:02:47 UTC

part by idiotic ideology

2019-09-16 20:02:53 UTC

but the reality came 1st

2019-09-16 20:03:36 UTC

most fookin 19th century female factory workers didn't think they were #Oppressed by their husbands...

2019-09-16 20:03:49 UTC

that's upper middle class, bored idiots

2019-09-16 20:03:53 UTC

who came up with that

2019-09-16 20:03:57 UTC

a tad later

2019-09-16 20:04:42 UTC

Trust me, the 45 year old female cashier at TESCO's doesn;t think the patriarchy is her main problem

2019-09-16 20:04:53 UTC

she is way too poor to be that detached from reality

2019-09-16 20:04:57 UTC

I wish we stopped relying on the state to teach and bring up the children and the average family had the option for one parent to work and one to home teach and care about the kids and the household.

2019-09-16 20:05:21 UTC

I wish we had unicorn candy

2019-09-16 20:05:38 UTC

I bet it'd taste like the rainbow

2019-09-16 20:05:43 UTC

Good for you.

2019-09-16 20:05:50 UTC

Great answer.

2019-09-16 20:06:00 UTC

<:tiptip:462282246695419934>

2019-09-16 20:08:17 UTC

The industrial revolutions really were a deal with the devil.

2019-09-16 22:05:47 UTC

@Okojamos here here

2019-09-16 22:06:43 UTC

Singl parents' cash is good to run the engine of the family unit! That's... That'd be awesome

2019-09-16 22:07:44 UTC

Seems to me that if that is not our goal as a society, what's the point?

2019-09-16 22:39:26 UTC

Itโ€™s why the state wants to break the family up into smaller individual units

2019-09-16 22:39:35 UTC

That is easier to control

2019-09-16 22:40:05 UTC

Same with breaking up communities with diversity, you can look at studies on how social cohesion and civic trust goes down

2019-09-16 22:40:31 UTC

People hunker down into their house and donโ€™t go outside with the community causing isolation

2019-09-16 22:41:07 UTC

And then drugs... I honestly donโ€™t know why drugs are so big

2019-09-16 22:41:20 UTC

I hate them, I want them done with but idk what causes it

2019-09-16 22:43:33 UTC

I could guess it has to do with the death of god, as mustache man once said

2019-09-16 22:43:45 UTC

The loss of meaning and responsibility

2019-09-16 22:44:30 UTC

Maybe itโ€™s too much freedom without enough duty

2019-09-16 22:44:42 UTC

Weโ€™re so free we donโ€™t know what to do with ourselves

2019-09-16 22:44:51 UTC

In some sense

2019-09-16 23:09:23 UTC

Diversity is no issue as long as the people have the same beliefs as us #CivicNationalism. @Snake

2019-09-16 23:24:49 UTC

So what we see is that political views are heritable, and that races self segregate

2019-09-16 23:25:00 UTC

And when they mix it causes lower trust

2019-09-16 23:25:41 UTC

Trust me NO ONE wanted these kind of things to be true

2019-09-16 23:26:29 UTC

Same thing with the study that Jordan Peterson mentioned. (How men and women in more equalitarian societyโ€™s become MORE likely to fill in traditional gender roles)

2019-09-16 23:27:41 UTC

And here we can see who voted for trump

2019-09-16 23:36:08 UTC

Sorry bud

2019-09-16 23:36:12 UTC

Civic nationalism works.

2019-09-16 23:36:55 UTC

I mean you can say that if you want to

2019-09-16 23:37:10 UTC

But I donโ€™t see it working for us, or Yugoslavia

2019-09-16 23:39:55 UTC

It *is* working in America. It *is* working in Yugoslavia.

2019-09-16 23:40:27 UTC

Civic nationalism allows anyone of any race or ethnicity to become a part of the state as long as they have the same values

2019-09-16 23:40:32 UTC

It's working in Serbai

2019-09-16 23:40:38 UTC

Yugoslavia doesnโ€™t exist

2019-09-16 23:40:40 UTC

Oh

2019-09-16 23:40:54 UTC

Yeah no Serbia is majority Serb

2019-09-16 23:41:02 UTC

America I wouldnโ€™t say itโ€™s working rn

2019-09-16 23:41:06 UTC

Most people agree

2019-09-16 23:41:14 UTC

We just disagree on why itโ€™s falling apart

2019-09-16 23:41:21 UTC

I mean shit, look at California

2019-09-16 23:42:22 UTC

It has minorities in there.

2019-09-16 23:42:23 UTC

And it works.

2019-09-16 23:42:59 UTC

Iโ€™m not against having minorities lol

2019-09-16 23:43:24 UTC

I donโ€™t actually know someone that wants a 100% **huewhite** ethnostate

2019-09-16 23:43:30 UTC

Then you're a civic nationalist.

2019-09-16 23:43:50 UTC

No our underlying premises are different

2019-09-16 23:43:59 UTC

There is still a difference

2019-09-16 23:44:09 UTC

Like I want a majority white country

2019-09-16 23:44:15 UTC

what about a 100% futanari ethnostate

2019-09-16 23:44:21 UTC

I want whites to maintain majority

2019-09-16 23:44:22 UTC

galaxy brain

2019-09-16 23:44:25 UTC

Remember guys: race is more important then actual familiar relations. If your brother fucks an Asian and has kids with her, you should feel more related to some random white kids from across the street then to your nieces and nephews. Isn't modern ethno-nationalism smart?!

2019-09-16 23:44:25 UTC

DIE DEGENERATE

2019-09-16 23:44:49 UTC

<:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

2019-09-16 23:45:10 UTC

Nigga listen, obviously you should care about those close to you more

2019-09-16 23:45:27 UTC

But having a preference towards your own race isnโ€™t evil

2019-09-16 23:45:30 UTC

But what if they're not my race?

2019-09-16 23:45:49 UTC

Well thatโ€™s tricky isnโ€™t it, but I donโ€™t pretend to know everything

2019-09-16 23:45:57 UTC

I would say you care about them more

2019-09-16 23:45:58 UTC

It's not tricky

2019-09-16 23:46:03 UTC

Than a random person

2019-09-16 23:46:04 UTC

your ideology is just retarded

2019-09-16 23:46:13 UTC

Ethno-nationalism is stupid

2019-09-16 23:46:19 UTC

Civic-nationalism is good.

2019-09-16 23:46:23 UTC

SHIT DUDE YOU GOT ME WITH ONE VERY SPECIFIC SITUATION AND CALLED ME DUMB

2019-09-16 23:46:31 UTC

I mean yeah

2019-09-16 23:46:34 UTC

Alright man

2019-09-16 23:46:36 UTC

it's an every day situation

2019-09-16 23:46:41 UTC

that your model cannot really handle

2019-09-16 23:46:50 UTC

I wouldnโ€™t say itโ€™s as every day as you believe

2019-09-16 23:46:54 UTC

lol

2019-09-16 23:47:01 UTC

Considering people self segregate into their own communities

2019-09-16 23:47:23 UTC

People self segregating is bad.

2019-09-16 23:47:28 UTC

Lmao

2019-09-16 23:47:41 UTC

Freedom of association bad

2019-09-16 23:47:45 UTC

Another reason for civic-nationalism.

2019-09-16 23:48:00 UTC

People won't segregate as much.

2019-09-16 23:48:10 UTC

People will follow the same values and will coexist

2019-09-16 23:48:10 UTC

America is civic nationalist

2019-09-16 23:48:16 UTC

People still self segregate

2019-09-16 23:48:21 UTC

It's not.

2019-09-16 23:48:28 UTC

America is ethno nationalist

2019-09-16 23:48:36 UTC

It's not.

2019-09-16 23:48:37 UTC

What is America?

2019-09-16 23:49:02 UTC

Not nationalist.

2019-09-16 23:49:13 UTC

True but itโ€™s falling apart because of that

2019-09-16 23:49:34 UTC

Nor is it civic.

2019-09-16 23:49:45 UTC

You already said that

2019-09-16 23:50:02 UTC

All the issues would go away if it were civic-nationalist

2019-09-16 23:50:59 UTC

I mean yes, I agree, two different groups of people wanting to have the country being very different than what it is right now. That will just go away

2019-09-16 23:51:07 UTC

Yeah I see that

2019-09-16 23:51:13 UTC

Everyone will be unified

2019-09-16 23:51:18 UTC

And will follow the same values

2019-09-16 23:51:38 UTC

Ok so you think America or a country is based on values, right?

2019-09-16 23:52:09 UTC

It can be

2019-09-16 23:52:26 UTC

Yes but thatโ€™s what you want right

2019-09-16 23:52:48 UTC

Or a common culture

2019-09-16 23:52:50 UTC

Language

2019-09-16 23:53:30 UTC

All

2019-09-16 23:53:55 UTC

Common culture, language etc

2019-09-16 23:54:10 UTC

And values

2019-09-16 23:54:54 UTC

I mean, Britain could be Canada or even... America then right? They are using the same Language and culture

2019-09-16 23:55:08 UTC

Hell theyโ€™re all democratic

2019-09-16 23:55:18 UTC

And have the same enlightenment values

2019-09-16 23:55:37 UTC

But what happens when we learn values are heritable

2019-09-16 23:56:08 UTC

Or what happens when values change so radically but the peopleโ€™s own will

2019-09-16 23:56:20 UTC

Can you say antifa and conservatives are the same nation?

2019-09-16 23:56:24 UTC

If based on values

2019-09-16 23:56:32 UTC

They donโ€™t agree on history

2019-09-16 23:56:45 UTC

Values, Iโ€™d say the culture is different

2019-09-17 00:01:39 UTC

@Weez your silence speaks volumes

2019-09-17 00:01:42 UTC

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-09-17 00:01:49 UTC

Sorry I was in the other channel

2019-09-17 00:02:52 UTC

You can all have the same people in the same nation as long as they have the same values

2019-09-17 00:18:20 UTC

Values need people to hold them

2019-09-17 00:38:27 UTC

True, values we will instil in people at school.

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