what industry did Obama seize from private owners?

SocLibs and SocDems aren't socialist

anyone?

Obama's clearly a capitalist

maybe not to the extent that Trump might be

anyone at all?

but Obama's firmly an establishment Dem TBH

(at least currently)

Biden is too, to an extent

yes, he's certainly that

he'd be the fucking hegemon of Dem establishment if they didn't have the whole progressive stack thing going on

No, obama is still a socialist.

still have yet to explain how so much private business was strengthened under a socialist

and not, you know, seized

if obama a capitalist then he's did a pretty poor job at it as one of the most useless presidents out there

depends who you ask

defense contractors seem to think he did just fine

also banks

i mean he didn't really get anything done and he pretty much was just a fence sitter

not that you can compare him to him, trump has really turned up the heat with the crazies.

he expanded every middle eastern theater, mandated Americans buy private health insurance, bailed out banks, expanded zero-bid military contracts

oh, fuck, how could I forget

convinced cuba to legalize small private business

*totes a fucking socialist tho*

the word used in reporting was "micro business" but the point stands

while still being a socialist fence sitter who pretty much did nothing to really improve america

this entire conversation reeks of dogma

you clearly don't understand what the fuck you are talking about.

one of us doesn't

That would be you.

still waiting to hear what industry Obama nationalized

what means of production were seized

what piece of the economy became rigidly planned

i said he was a socialist not a fucking communist, thats like going full far left you fucking nong

one is more extreme but they all end up going full communism if you let socialism keep going.

how much did inflation go up under obama compared to presidents before or after?

How many examples of state power were exercised on political dissidents?

I remember in elementary school during the election our teachers asked us who would we vote for if we could and I said “Obama”, when asked why I said: “He said he would bring my dad back from Afghanistan.” Needless to say, that never fucking happened.

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oof

Sorry for your loss

Oh no, my dad’s still alive

rip

ah, well, still

It’s just that he was brought back after his tour was up

well good, that's a relief

And not by Obama pulling out the troops

And now, trump wants to take out troops. Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires after all

^^^^^

THANK YOU

I'VE ONLY CITED THAT TITLE FOR FUCKING YEARS

Yeah, I fucking cheered when Trump said he was pulling out troops and he started doing so.

not *all* of them, but still

It's a start

Yeah, has to keep some there because they started getting attacked if I remember correctly

now all we need to do is build that all and throw all the crazies over it

Afghanistan ain't worth a single US life

circular logic as always, still, can't be avoided this late in the game I suppose

Gae

Isn't Trump going to withdraw more as part of a deal with the Taliban?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392531506679250945/619935055678013441/image0.jpg

He recently called off the meeting with the Taliban after he got reports they killed a US soldier

Damn

the IRA are a political body nowadays, might work...... eventually

why call off the meeting when you can just blow up the talibans

They kill everybody. Let the talibs bomb afghanistan to pieces. Just get the boys home

https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1170495620735365120?s=20

lol

Because it doesn't work too well

>secret

Wack

You can't negotiate with islamists.

At least, not honestly.

you can't bomb your problems away, either

@Jokerfaic yes, yes you can

Honestly a few years ago I was advocating for the complete glassing of the Middle East because I was sick of the war over there going on and on.

really? ask the luftwaffe

sometimes you just need to clean the fucking slate

You'd need a muslim to get a deal with muslims. Power means nothing to them if you're a kafir

"Hudna" has two meanings: peace, and tactical truce.

I can't tell if this dude's a boomie or boomer

nar because even muslims get killed by other muslims if your not muslims enough *angry muslim noises*

After learning what “taqqiyah” is I find it incredibly difficult to trust Muslims

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Taqqiyah?

Just keep Islam in Islamic countries and we're good

or the fact that their religion is dualstic and one set of rules for muslims and another for Kafirs

@Aquila Fiacra it means to lie to the Kafirs

is that the word for selective lying to non-muslims?

I misspelled it a bit but yeah

pretty much feeding non muslims false info

Islam

Ah

I should know a thing or two

It's appalling. Never trust a muslim

kebab removal unit

It is also apparently the name of their tiny hats