I know a socialist wouldn't literally legislate that the citizenry purchase a private service

or even allow said private service to exist

and not instead, oh, *nationalize it?*

suuure buddy, and that magically makes him not a socailist

you fucking nong

what industry did Obama seize from private owners?

SocLibs and SocDems aren't socialist

anyone?

Obama's clearly a capitalist

maybe not to the extent that Trump might be

anyone at all?

but Obama's firmly an establishment Dem TBH

(at least currently)

Biden is too, to an extent

yes, he's certainly that

he'd be the fucking hegemon of Dem establishment if they didn't have the whole progressive stack thing going on

No, obama is still a socialist.

still have yet to explain how so much private business was strengthened under a socialist

and not, you know, seized

if obama a capitalist then he's did a pretty poor job at it as one of the most useless presidents out there

depends who you ask

defense contractors seem to think he did just fine

also banks

i mean he didn't really get anything done and he pretty much was just a fence sitter

not that you can compare him to him, trump has really turned up the heat with the crazies.

he expanded every middle eastern theater, mandated Americans buy private health insurance, bailed out banks, expanded zero-bid military contracts

oh, fuck, how could I forget

convinced cuba to legalize small private business

*totes a fucking socialist tho*

the word used in reporting was "micro business" but the point stands

while still being a socialist fence sitter who pretty much did nothing to really improve america

this entire conversation reeks of dogma

you clearly don't understand what the fuck you are talking about.

one of us doesn't

That would be you.

still waiting to hear what industry Obama nationalized

what means of production were seized

what piece of the economy became rigidly planned

i said he was a socialist not a fucking communist, thats like going full far left you fucking nong

one is more extreme but they all end up going full communism if you let socialism keep going.

how much did inflation go up under obama compared to presidents before or after?