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2019-10-22 12:25:38 UTC

What is it with goverments always being corrupted lmao

2019-10-22 12:25:40 UTC

AND NONE OF THEM PASSED

2019-10-22 12:25:57 UTC

and Bercow didnt let them vote for no deal for literally no reason

2019-10-22 12:26:12 UTC

Yea to be fair he should have let them vote on no deal

2019-10-22 12:26:22 UTC

It wouldnโ€™t have passed

2019-10-22 12:26:27 UTC

But it should be an option

2019-10-22 12:26:30 UTC

but he a remainer

2019-10-22 12:26:35 UTC

Despite how retarded it is

2019-10-22 12:26:58 UTC

Yeah it shows how Bercow isnt an impartial speaker

2019-10-22 12:27:08 UTC

I think there are doubts

2019-10-22 12:27:25 UTC

But you have to remember is that his job is to maintain parliament and look after it

2019-10-22 12:27:35 UTC

The govt were being twats

2019-10-22 12:27:41 UTC

no they werent

2019-10-22 12:27:46 UTC

Well they were

2019-10-22 12:27:48 UTC

its lets vote on what you want

2019-10-22 12:27:50 UTC

Actively withholding information

2019-10-22 12:28:00 UTC

Which is needed to make decisions

2019-10-22 12:28:00 UTC

lol i'll block 1 option completely arbirtarily

2019-10-22 12:28:07 UTC

And that was requested by parliament

2019-10-22 12:28:14 UTC

And led to them being held in contempt

2019-10-22 12:28:17 UTC

Is a bad thing

2019-10-22 12:28:35 UTC

Both Bercow and the govt did stupid shit

2019-10-22 12:29:46 UTC

tbh it doesnt really matter that the government didnt give out info

2019-10-22 12:29:55 UTC

They wouldnt have read it anyway

2019-10-22 12:33:37 UTC

wonder if all this was corbyns plan all along... we all know he's been euroskeptic since he came out of the womb...

2019-10-22 12:34:05 UTC

tbh I find h is position hilarious

2019-10-22 12:34:08 UTC

and now its looking like boris got a good deal.. and corbyn is trying to push us towards a no deal

2019-10-22 12:35:12 UTC

He's an old Eurosceptic but he relies on the support of rabid remainer students to protect it from the old blairite labour establishment

2019-10-22 12:36:20 UTC

"good" deal

2019-10-22 12:46:42 UTC

yep

2019-10-22 12:47:24 UTC

the fact that extreme brexiteers and extreme remainers dont like it tells you its a good compromise of a deal

2019-10-22 12:47:31 UTC

@ETBrooD yeah, so to a lefty, Tim self owned, but it didnโ€™t make sense to us at all until we put ourselves into the mind of a shit lib.

2019-10-22 12:47:40 UTC

and the majority want the deal done and brexit to be over

2019-10-22 12:48:16 UTC

which is why next GE will be a landslide

2019-10-22 12:55:23 UTC

Inb4 Dankula somehow wins even though he's not a politician

2019-10-22 12:58:49 UTC

Gov wants to go nuclear if they change timetable it seems

2019-10-22 12:59:03 UTC

Ready to essentially go on strike until VONC or a GE

2019-10-22 12:59:55 UTC

Of the timetable for this week is changed by the house, they will pull the bill entirely and "There will be no more business for the house"

2019-10-22 13:00:31 UTC

lol

2019-10-22 13:01:33 UTC

"No 10 source says, 'if Parliament votes again for delay by voting down the programme motion, and the EU offers delay until 31 Jan -- then we will pull the Bill, there will be no further business for Parliament and we'll move to an election before Christmas'"

2019-10-22 13:06:52 UTC

"If no Brexit happens, we'll do Brexit at another point, by which point if it doesn't happen, we'll plan to do it at another point, by which point... why you giving me this funny look?"

2019-10-22 13:07:43 UTC

It shows how stupid our system becomes when the government doesnt have a

2019-10-22 13:07:50 UTC

working majority

2019-10-22 13:07:59 UTC

It's all because of the FTPA

2019-10-22 13:08:01 UTC

Or it's simple

2019-10-22 13:08:06 UTC

Such a shitty peice of legislation

2019-10-22 13:08:07 UTC

The UK is not a true democracy

2019-10-22 13:08:53 UTC

When an AnCap like me tells you that you should become more democratic, maybe it's time to listen

2019-10-22 13:09:00 UTC

true it has a certain oligarchic flavour

2019-10-22 13:10:28 UTC

Since you're closing in on the next Brexit point, it makes sense to wait for that

2019-10-22 13:10:42 UTC

If however no Brexit happens at that point, government should be dissolved and Brexit enforced

2019-10-22 13:11:25 UTC

That's the real life consequence of legitimizing a government to rule over people

2019-10-22 13:11:32 UTC

Otherwise it's just a mafia

2019-10-22 13:12:16 UTC

ehh the British arent really in the business of dissolving governments

2019-10-22 13:12:24 UTC

we just grumble and moan about it

2019-10-22 13:12:32 UTC

yeah

2019-10-22 13:12:39 UTC

like caged animals

2019-10-22 13:13:14 UTC

Not saying my people are any better

2019-10-22 13:14:06 UTC

It'll sort itself out eventually

2019-10-22 13:14:19 UTC

there'll be a general election that should remove the deadlock

2019-10-22 13:16:41 UTC

Depends whether Farage will be a selfish egotistical cunt or not.

2019-10-22 13:17:35 UTC

I mean i wouldnt bet against it

2019-10-22 13:18:02 UTC

He definitely thinks of himself before anything else

2019-10-22 14:04:22 UTC
2019-10-22 15:28:51 UTC

Money is a social construct

2019-10-22 15:28:52 UTC

It's ok

2019-10-22 15:28:56 UTC

They don't need it

2019-10-22 15:29:00 UTC

<:KEK:357727991205199874>

2019-10-22 15:31:10 UTC

Money wonโ€™t matter when the revolution happens.
Which will occur any day now!
Just you wait!

2019-10-22 15:43:01 UTC

geezas christ jo swinson is saying the deal is bad because we wont be able to use the european arrest warrent

2019-10-22 15:43:37 UTC

one more nail in the "liberal" part of the libdems coffin

2019-10-22 15:48:03 UTC

they also have to pay fines or legal fees or something for antisemitism court cases

2019-10-22 15:49:54 UTC

lol.. check the comic sans trend on twitter.... #1 trend

2019-10-22 15:50:08 UTC

I think Labour is going to be replaced by the Lib Dems at this rate

2019-10-22 16:03:04 UTC

Who chose that fucking font?

2019-10-22 16:03:54 UTC

The idiot that the Conservatives hired to advertise for them

2019-10-22 16:04:51 UTC

*Scientists discover new gene in British DNA pool that makes people fifty times less likely to get things done*

2019-10-22 16:07:11 UTC

*In response to this news, politicians push the Brexit date further out to 2021 because, they say, "doing it now would disrupt the British way of life"*

2019-10-22 16:07:14 UTC

Reminder lads.

2019-10-22 16:07:30 UTC

Nuclear powered ships are shit.

2019-10-22 16:08:18 UTC

But they make the military sound better

2019-10-22 16:40:39 UTC

Isnโ€™t the point of nuclear powered subs is that you are only limited by your food supplies?

2019-10-22 16:42:37 UTC

Nuclear is just superior in almost every single way

2019-10-22 16:43:00 UTC

The only reason not to do nuclear is a lack of infrastructure or stuff like that

2019-10-22 16:53:11 UTC

It's in many ways superior so long as you can guarantee the vessel's safety.

2019-10-22 16:54:20 UTC

Never underestimate the importance of ease of maintenance though.

2019-10-22 16:55:25 UTC

The safety measures are made so that they're proportionate to the dangers

2019-10-22 16:55:42 UTC

Since nuclear is so much more feared, the safety measures are actually greater than for other ships

2019-10-22 16:55:52 UTC

Proportionally greater that is

2019-10-22 16:56:28 UTC

Nuclear is way superior for subs which operate alone anyway. But since carriers are always with a fleet of many other (non nuclear) ships, this isn't such an advantage.

2019-10-22 16:58:11 UTC

Safety measures proportionate to the dangers can be a significant disadvantage on the operational/tactical level too.

2019-10-22 17:00:00 UTC

If nuclear means that you'll be more cautious about where you send the CV, that can be a very significant disadvantage.

2019-10-22 17:01:50 UTC

Nuclear has massive costs

2019-10-22 17:01:59 UTC

Increased size requirements, weight as well

2019-10-22 17:02:16 UTC

There's the mid-life refueling and the after-life disposal which costs a shit load of money

2019-10-22 17:02:44 UTC

Also, some nations even NATO ones don't allow nuclear powered ships, or those carrying nuclear weapons into their ports

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