in terms of kwh per dollar its nuclear fission (uranium), hydro electric ng, oil, coal, wind, nuclear fission (thorium, for now), and finally right at the bottom solar

maintaining them is a bitch and expensive... and also requires fossil fuels

they are noisy and just generally pretty lame yo

Significantly less than say, a coal plant

> The UK has 15 operational nuclear reactors at seven plants

Meaning we're less dependant on imports

Which from a strategic POV is very good

@Crafty are they power plants or breeder reactors though?

Foriegn companies and countries will have less influence / control over us

By holding their coal / oil / gas exports hostage

Or, ramping up the price

Coastal wind turbines are not an unreasonable idea in the UK, especially now their unsubsidised cost is now competitive

in terms of polutants wind is pretty good, solar is shit on both fronts, with just co2 emissions a full cycle solar pannel causes more than any fossil fuel except coal, and including non greenhouse gas polutants solar is just the worst

climate change is bullshit really

Don't care @UnScottable

National security.

admittedly don't know @killerqwerty, but it seems UK's nuclear energy supply peaked in the '90s

i think nuclear would be a much danker option

most uranium is mined in canada

Except the French own most if not all of our reactors

British nuclear is cucked out to foreigners

ewww Frogs

whyd you give em to the french. wtf

Exactly @Dubdogelmo

just go take em back

*Hon hon hon*

be like hey you

give me my reactor back biiiitch

so for the us nuclear is 100% safe nationaly since canada is basicaly a part of the usa

@ShardS there are also massive uranium deposits in Australia

well the big energy producer for the US is natural gas now

Interesting how all of the Uranium is in former British dominions

yeah, nuclear gets gutted every time a dem/labour government is in place

the real reason us/uk nuclear is about 20 years behind france and japan.

i dnt understand why that is... is it they are just afraid of a malfunction?

Pretty much yeah

No one wants that

Nuclear in Japan is dead @ShardS

its not really that hard to shut them down

All the reactors have been shutdown

even though its less likely, and less dangerous than most other types of malfunction

ALL.

well, japan shot itself in the foot then

Japan has regressed to fossil fuels

too much public pressure?

the two times they have malfunctioned it was on much older reactors

Yep @Crafty

basicaly people are stupid

@UnScottable this does a good job of going over the reasons for nuclear fear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6IzPCmIW8

these days they are actually pretty reliable

some japs are outright superstitious about nuclear

well tbf Fukushima was a bit of a mess

A reason why they shouldn't vote 😉 @ShardS

fukushima was old

and on a coastline

Well the problem with Japan is, they're always going to have issues like that due to their geography

Yeah i know by i cant blame them for being nervous about it

chernobel was old, and managed by soviet russia

They're on the boundry of 4 tectonic plates

They will always have massive earthquakes, storms, etc.

So nuclear isn't really a good idea for them

From a safety POV

it actualy is

oi you got a loicense to be worried?

TL:DR rich Californians didn't want poor people ruining the local area so they project feared them.

Also, every bit of lost land is crippling to the Japs

Since they don't have much usable land to start with

Chernobyl was a management fuckup coupled with reactor design.

incidentally something i watched recently

https://youtu.be/YDvKkG1FTbU

recommend

I love ghost towns like that tbh

Reminds me of Fallout

Points frozen in time

South africa sholud return to aphartied and given nuclear weapons, i don't see how this could go wrong

@tea_in_space who's giving south africa nukes?

well why don't we give South africa nukes i mean during the 80s they tried to create a secret nuclear program between them and israel

so why don't the US just give them some i mean what could possibly go wrong

whitie's gotta pay.

and the payment is nukes

well if it returned culturally to the 80s or 60s i see no problem in giving them nukes

Yeah, there's a reason why you were blocked

Let me do that again tbh

i mean what go wrong in giving them nukes

i see no holes in this plan what so ever

as long as you don't also give them missiles it should be fine

wait but then how else are they gonna transport the nukes

by truck

a missile truck

https://twitter.com/adamvaughan_uk/status/1184472559280119808?s=20

plus why don't we just give them missiles that have the ability to transport a 50 megaton nuke

i see nothing wrong with this what so ever

pfftt kids having porn?

whats wrong with that

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@tea_in_space the only 50 MT weapon ever built was the tsar bomba, and it was too large to transport and had to be constructed on site, the largest warheads capable of being fitted to an ICBM are around 9 MT

never mind, it was air droped, my bad

but still

Do y'think we're ever gonna see Extinction Rebellion just...commit mass-suicide or something crazy like that?

I want them to keep disrupting London

It would fit the namesake, and given that they've been kicked out of London I imagine that their next protest will be one big action before they're disbanded