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2019-04-23 16:04:35 UTC

Alright sending you the link.

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2019-04-23 16:15:13 UTC

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2019-04-23 16:16:13 UTC

just a quick hack

2019-04-23 16:16:13 UTC

Nice paint over. I see what the problem is. Lines too clean?

2019-04-23 16:17:00 UTC

looks good 66

2019-04-23 16:20:01 UTC

it's too black and white lol. also if you do a full face paint, try it like it is in the neck area

2019-04-23 16:21:33 UTC

Ja will do. I did a bit of the smudge effect on it but didn't save it.

2019-04-23 19:25:39 UTC
2019-04-25 14:26:38 UTC

Hello everyone

2019-04-25 14:31:13 UTC


2019-04-25 14:33:34 UTC

Seen it. Love the beginning bit. Hilarious

2019-04-25 14:33:44 UTC

yea its awesome

2019-04-25 14:34:39 UTC

Looked like a Quentin Tarantino film for a second there. Every film of his has a scene along those lines.

is it possiple to play this mod

2019-04-25 14:35:30 UTC

Not yet bru. We just did a play test the other day to see how the reskins looked. When we have the custom vehicles and weapons in there will be a first release

2019-04-25 14:36:25 UTC

Not exactly sure. When they're ready I suppose πŸ˜‰ Working on them every day though.

2019-04-25 14:36:58 UTC

trust me its worth the wait

2019-04-25 14:38:34 UTC

and this just gave me the best idea for a speech next week lol

2019-04-25 14:42:40 UTC

Uh... Someone's getting on opfok.


2019-04-25 14:43:22 UTC

First time I saw Alouettes in Operation Hooper.


2019-04-25 14:44:31 UTC

Screenshot I took the other day in ARMA 3. Using Jakes [BW] Bush Wars mod and Icebreakr's Angola map.


2019-04-25 14:44:49 UTC

looks good lol

2019-04-25 14:48:02 UTC

i dont remember the oryx looking like that but oky

2019-04-25 14:48:13 UTC

That's a Puma

2019-04-25 14:48:48 UTC

oh oky from that side of the photo i cant see

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2019-04-25 14:49:30 UTC

oky yea i see

2019-04-25 14:49:53 UTC

Only got side screenshots of it. But ja it's a SA-330 Puma an old Armed Assault model or ARMA 2 can't remember exactly

2019-04-25 14:51:21 UTC

shouldn't it still be brown since its still border timeline or was it that colour

2019-04-25 14:52:07 UTC

IIRC the Pumas early war were OD. But were then given a camouflage pattern. Let me post some reference images

2019-04-25 14:52:36 UTC


2019-04-25 14:53:25 UTC

OD green very early war

2019-04-25 14:53:37 UTC

Later on with the camouflage pattern

2019-04-25 14:55:00 UTC

oh yea i see now

2019-04-25 14:56:04 UTC

They were shot down in Mozambique during Operation Uric/Bootlace

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2019-04-25 14:57:29 UTC

that was just luck for the enemy

2019-04-25 14:58:23 UTC

Well the Pumas and Alouettes were vulnerable to enemy 23mm and 14,7mm AA fire. Hence why they were bombed by fast movers before the rotorcraft moved in.

2019-04-25 14:58:57 UTC

But sometimes were caught off guard. Like another Puma that was shot down by SWAPO during Operation Meebos II

2019-04-25 14:59:36 UTC

Not easy to spot an AA gun emplacement in the bush

2019-04-25 15:00:18 UTC

And I'm sure that's going to be the case in the mod itself. Ground forces will have to deal with anti-air emplacements otherwise the choppers are going to have a hard time

2019-04-25 15:01:44 UTC

Ground forces or fast movers. How I'm going to deal with the fixed wing aircraft will be interesting... As IIRC SQUAD won't be including flyable fixed wing aircraft. They'll be controlled by AI like Post Scriptum. I don't really want to do that but of course if there is no feasible way to implement flyable aircraft due to the size of the maps then they'll have to be implemented the same way as PS.

2019-04-25 15:08:55 UTC

its gonna be like rising storm vietnam when we have to land somewhere

2019-04-25 15:09:07 UTC

Well the sizes of the maps will be larger

2019-04-25 15:09:23 UTC

But ja finding a good place to land will be tricky on some maps with the thick bush

2019-04-25 15:09:43 UTC

Could just hover

2019-04-25 15:09:48 UTC

and have the guys jump out

2019-04-25 15:10:37 UTC

i know some of the places was wide open so maybe that could help but that leads to the guys being sitting ducks

2019-04-25 15:11:14 UTC

Ja if landing in a hot LZ it's preferable to have guys on the ground first to secure the LZ.

2019-04-25 15:11:26 UTC

Otherwise you're just landing right into an enemy ambush

2019-04-25 15:16:22 UTC

exactly so im thinking a Alouette goes in first with a fire team to clear the LZ somewhat for the Pumas/Oryxes

2019-04-25 15:17:01 UTC

Ja well there may be various scenarios that would play out in LZ's depending on the situation

2019-04-25 15:17:47 UTC

If you've got ground forces nearby it's best to have them secure the LZ first then land.

If no ground forces nearby then have fixed wing bomb the area or smoke it up and then land

2019-04-25 15:18:02 UTC

Best way to minimize the risk of an LZ ambush

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2019-04-25 15:19:02 UTC

we'll have to test everthing ones we get there

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2019-04-25 15:19:29 UTC

I'm keen to see how different the meta will be compared to vanilla SQUAD

2019-04-25 15:19:48 UTC

No optics, thick bush, different vehicles (SADF side anyway)

2019-04-25 15:20:12 UTC

Closer engagements on many maps due to the environment and lack of scopes

2019-04-25 15:20:34 UTC

Trying to get some decent black skin on the FAPLA reskins

2019-04-25 15:20:51 UTC

They look weird... Bone structure is off 😬

2019-04-25 15:38:57 UTC

Shrunk the camouflage pattern and made the head black


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2019-04-25 15:39:04 UTC

Just need to make the hands black now

2019-04-25 15:39:27 UTC

Does eyes

2019-04-25 15:39:33 UTC

Told you he looks weird... The facial bone structure isn't right πŸ˜‚

2019-04-25 16:07:20 UTC

its staring into my soul

2019-04-25 16:07:30 UTC

Changed his hat to camo now too

2019-04-25 16:07:39 UTC

Now painting in his fingers... Fokken pain in the arse that

2019-04-25 16:07:47 UTC

Would be better without globes

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2019-04-25 16:10:33 UTC

i believe in you and hey maybe you can just remove the gloves then

2019-04-25 16:10:41 UTC


2019-04-25 16:10:45 UTC

they're baked into the model

2019-04-25 16:11:00 UTC

Would have to edit the high and low poly model to remove the gloves. Which is not possible as I do not have access to the high poly

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2019-04-25 16:11:18 UTC

Doesn't matter as I'll be sculpting proper character models in the near future

2019-04-25 16:11:57 UTC

nice well you are doing hella good work so i believe its gonna look good no matter what

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2019-04-25 16:14:54 UTC

we believe in you πŸ˜‚

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2019-04-25 16:36:18 UTC

skee mask for the win

2019-04-25 16:36:40 UTC

πŸ˜… would sweat like a pig in the Angolan bush with that on

2019-04-25 16:36:59 UTC

Good thing I'll be sculpting the proper character models when I get Zbrush

2019-04-25 16:37:07 UTC

id still use the hell out of it

2019-04-25 16:37:17 UTC

yea thats good lol

2019-04-25 16:37:29 UTC

but good place holders though

2019-04-25 16:37:57 UTC

What SWAPO looked like


2019-04-25 16:38:04 UTC

What UNITA looked like.


2019-04-25 16:39:53 UTC

remove the kneepads and you've got a soldier

2019-04-25 16:40:02 UTC

Can't do that either 😦

2019-04-25 16:40:05 UTC

Baked into the low poly

2019-04-25 16:40:44 UTC

damn but when you get zbrush

2019-04-25 16:40:51 UTC

But again no worries as I'll have proper character models sculpted as soon as I get Zbrush. (around September)

can sombody show me some models of the guns

2019-04-25 16:41:21 UTC


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2019-04-25 17:14:56 UTC

damn i wonder if that grenade on that gun will work

2019-04-25 17:15:25 UTC

As in that particular one or ingame?

2019-04-25 17:15:40 UTC

both i guess

2019-04-25 17:16:46 UTC

Nice job

2019-04-25 17:17:24 UTC

Not sure it would work on that AK as AFAIK only the SKS, R1 and R4 could fire rifle grenades?

As for ingame ja It's something I'll need to implement for most of the factions as rifle grenades were used. Not as many under barrel grenade launchers back then

2019-04-25 17:17:39 UTC

AK's had them though

2019-04-25 17:22:07 UTC

oh oky it would be interesting to see

2019-04-25 18:47:41 UTC

@Boomninja those rifle grenades are easy irl, the rpk muzzle was the same as the regular ak, and those grenades fit right onto the muzzle, only funny thing was that these specific grenades needed to be shot with a blank cartridge, or you might blow up the gun. This happened quite often in the shit @Springbok

2019-04-25 18:58:54 UTC

@Kooijpolloi Thanks for the info man.

Ja I know about the blank cartridge thing even the R4 needs blanks to fire rifle grenades. That will make firing rifle grenades rather finicky and time consuming but realistic πŸ˜‰ It also makes the M79 snotneus and Milkor Y2 MGL far more useful due to their rapid ability to put down 40mm fire

2019-04-25 20:20:28 UTC

No r4 doesnt need blanks afaik uses a shot trap with a normal cartridge

2019-04-25 20:20:45 UTC

I may be wrong

2019-04-25 20:20:58 UTC

Really? Damn I assumed blanks I was sure I saw a 10 round magazine just for blanks

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Second from bottom

2019-04-25 20:27:51 UTC

Wew i see i lied its a blank firing one the design right after from the frogs is a shot trap the ac58

2019-04-25 20:28:02 UTC

I see

2019-04-25 20:28:33 UTC

This one was also license built by armscor


2019-04-25 20:30:18 UTC

Cool man. Downloaded for reference

2019-04-25 20:30:56 UTC

Any idea how common the nutria R4 paintjobs were?


2019-04-25 20:31:07 UTC

Rifle grenade


2019-04-25 20:37:46 UTC

As far as i can figure out not really common

2019-04-25 20:38:11 UTC

I think maybe a few units had them in nutria but its not a lot

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2019-04-25 20:38:31 UTC

We still use those rifle grenades

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2019-04-25 20:40:34 UTC

Another rifle grenade


2019-04-25 20:42:04 UTC

Interesting wooden grips here with pattern 83 gear.


2019-04-25 20:43:03 UTC

Weird how they still use the rifle grenades when underbarrel grenade launchers have been out for so long which offer a faster fire rate.

2019-04-25 20:43:41 UTC

Another nutria R4


2019-04-25 20:43:51 UTC

With the paint wearing off on the dust cover

2019-04-25 21:11:27 UTC

Its faster and cheaper to use rifle grenades

2019-04-25 21:11:37 UTC

And everyone can carry a couple extra

2019-04-25 21:11:59 UTC

Also an underbarrel gl on an r4 would make it one really really heavy gun

2019-04-25 21:25:08 UTC

True, the R4 being milled steel is certainly heavier than the mostly plastic M4

2019-04-25 21:28:58 UTC

Not really because of that

2019-04-25 21:29:04 UTC

Its the whole design

2019-04-25 21:29:13 UTC

Long stroke piston

2019-04-25 21:29:24 UTC

Bulky bolt carrier group

2019-04-25 21:29:31 UTC

Long barrel

2019-04-25 21:29:46 UTC

But its tough and it wont die

2019-04-26 16:20:02 UTC

Is the galil animated yet?

2019-04-26 16:20:26 UTC

Not yet. High poly model isn't finished yet.

2019-04-26 16:21:02 UTC

Oh yeah cool, we were talking in Israel Defense Forces mod discord they might have an interest in that gun

2019-04-26 16:21:55 UTC

Ah alright, ja not sure when it'll be done as I'm working on multiple assets simultaneously πŸ˜‰

2019-04-26 16:22:41 UTC

High poly is almost done though

2019-04-26 16:22:57 UTC

Just a few issues with it that I need to sort out before I'm satisfied with it.

2019-04-26 16:23:09 UTC

Sure thing I wonder how much gear IDF and ZA forces shared at that time

2019-04-26 16:23:15 UTC

Quite a bit

2019-04-26 16:23:52 UTC

Our M83 para helmet was based on an Israeli design I believe.

2019-04-26 16:23:59 UTC

Same leather chin guard and all.

2019-04-26 16:24:16 UTC

Of course R4 also being a Galil variant

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2019-04-26 16:25:45 UTC

Yeah this mod is gonna be modern IDF so I think CreativeRealms even said he would need a more modern Galil, but I suppose he could base it on the old one to make his, or use the old one as a stand in until the new one's in

2019-04-26 16:26:04 UTC

Doesn't the modern IDF use the Tavor though?

2019-04-26 16:26:47 UTC

Mostly yeah but Galil is still in use

2019-04-26 16:27:02 UTC

Ah alright. Thought the Galil was no longer in use by the IDF.

2019-04-26 16:27:24 UTC

Fun fact. South Africa produced several batches of the Galil for Israel prior to the 1990's.

2019-04-26 16:30:42 UTC

I read there was even a Swedish variant lol

2019-04-26 16:31:20 UTC

Modern Galil is still in use by border guards in Israel

2019-04-26 16:33:04 UTC

I saw some content of the mod awhile back but haven't heard much since. Wasn't CreativeRealms streaming his modding sessions at one point?

2019-04-26 16:44:31 UTC

Long time ago yeah, he's more on the mapping side right now, I think he's looking for an animator

2019-04-26 16:48:19 UTC

Keen to see what the IDF mod comes up with. Always great to have unique factions and conflicts featured.

2019-04-26 16:52:09 UTC

do come on

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Thanks for the invite πŸ˜‰

2019-04-26 19:21:08 UTC

Oi hello!

2019-04-26 21:05:49 UTC

@asami hi!

2019-04-26 21:42:50 UTC

How do you play this?

2019-04-26 21:43:12 UTC

Not publicly released yet.

2019-04-26 21:43:17 UTC


2019-05-01 18:11:29 UTC

V13 out boys!

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2019-05-01 18:14:12 UTC

Yup should see an update on your steam

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2019-05-01 18:16:49 UTC

But sdk v2 not yet out

2019-05-01 18:21:22 UTC

Ja that won't be out for another couple weeks at most

2019-05-01 18:22:25 UTC

The SDK is always updated a week or two after the game itself.

2019-05-01 18:28:15 UTC

Gonna take me forever to download with SA Potato internet

2019-05-01 18:28:31 UTC

I feel ya

2019-05-01 18:29:01 UTC

Unfortunately I can't say the same as I've luckily got lekker European internet 😬

2019-05-01 18:29:13 UTC

XD jaja

2019-05-01 18:29:37 UTC

28 mins for me

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2019-05-01 18:29:48 UTC

10 hours for me

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2019-05-01 18:29:59 UTC

That's slow. Shame man

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2019-05-01 18:37:30 UTC

Check ya online then tomorrow after the update

2019-05-01 18:37:52 UTC

Alright bru. Cheers til then.

2019-05-01 18:41:25 UTC

you got 10 i got 32hours

2019-05-01 18:41:43 UTC

and its still going up

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2019-05-01 18:49:00 UTC

@Boomninja you poor soul.

2019-05-01 18:51:59 UTC

yea i know but im getting fibre end of the week so all godd

2019-05-01 18:52:20 UTC

Awesome what speeds you expecting?

2019-05-01 18:52:48 UTC

well im getting a 10mb line

2019-05-01 18:52:58 UTC

so we'll see

2019-05-01 18:54:27 UTC

Ah okay should be alright.

My SQUAD is currently downloading at peak 6.5mb/s although I'm paying for a 60mb or so never ever get that high though.

2019-05-01 18:55:15 UTC

if i go that high ima pay about R 10 000

2019-05-01 18:55:32 UTC

Flip that's expensive...

2019-05-01 18:56:04 UTC

i know

2019-05-01 19:18:18 UTC

Fiber will not make a difference in download speed it will only improve your latency. And be more constant

2019-05-02 08:22:09 UTC


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2019-05-02 08:59:30 UTC

@everyone Check out this Website, They have a ton of free Ebooks on all military aspects including alot of the Angola war. I downloaded a few myself.

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2019-05-02 10:45:52 UTC

Question - I downloaded the patch (~11 gigs) then immediately after was hit with a 16.5 gig download. Did this happen to anyone else?

2019-05-02 10:50:50 UTC

i haven't updated my game yet so i would not know

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2019-05-02 10:52:39 UTC

Imma be fuked by updates when i get internet again

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2019-05-02 10:55:02 UTC

I mean how many gigs can 5 months worth of updates really be... 😁

2019-05-02 10:56:01 UTC

hehehe its a surprise

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2019-05-02 11:13:37 UTC

good luck then

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2019-05-02 11:23:15 UTC

Just arrived 😱

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2019-05-02 13:36:14 UTC

That's all of it.

No R4 though just a kak SRC with plastic furniture.


2019-05-02 15:15:35 UTC

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2019-05-02 22:14:26 UTC

Fucking epic round

2019-05-02 22:16:43 UTC

friendlies swarmed the T-72 placed a mine on top and blew themselves and it up. Was funny as hell watching the tank's crew swirling around with the turret.

2019-05-03 11:40:01 UTC

I got my nuwe PSU



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2019-05-03 14:04:56 UTC

I went from a 500W PSU to now a 1000W PSU

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