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Alright sending you the link.
just a quick hack
Nice paint over. I see what the problem is. Lines too clean?
looks good 66
it's too black and white lol. also if you do a full face paint, try it like it is in the neck area
Ja will do. I did a bit of the smudge effect on it but didn't save it.
https://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/35/34259/thumb_620x2000/bosbokke.jpg some random mini mod for Battlefield 2.
Seen it. Love the beginning bit. Hilarious
yea its awesome
Looked like a Quentin Tarantino film for a second there. Every film of his has a scene along those lines.
is it possiple to play this mod
Not yet bru. We just did a play test the other day to see how the reskins looked. When we have the custom vehicles and weapons in there will be a first release
Not exactly sure. When they're ready I suppose 😉 Working on them every day though.
trust me its worth the wait
and this just gave me the best idea for a speech next week lol
Uh... Someone's getting on opfok.
First time I saw Alouettes in Operation Hooper.
Screenshot I took the other day in ARMA 3. Using Jakes [BW] Bush Wars mod and Icebreakr's Angola map.
looks good lol
i dont remember the oryx looking like that but oky
That's a Puma
oh oky from that side of the photo i cant see
oky yea i see
Only got side screenshots of it. But ja it's a SA-330 Puma an old Armed Assault model or ARMA 2 can't remember exactly
shouldn't it still be brown since its still border timeline or was it that colour
IIRC the Pumas early war were OD. But were then given a camouflage pattern. Let me post some reference images
OD green very early war
Later on with the camouflage pattern
Puma 164 sadly shot down in 1979
oh yea i see now
They were shot down in Mozambique during Operation Uric/Bootlace
that was just luck for the enemy
Well the Pumas and Alouettes were vulnerable to enemy 23mm and 14,7mm AA fire. Hence why they were bombed by fast movers before the rotorcraft moved in.
But sometimes were caught off guard. Like another Puma that was shot down by SWAPO during Operation Meebos II
Not easy to spot an AA gun emplacement in the bush
And I'm sure that's going to be the case in the mod itself. Ground forces will have to deal with anti-air emplacements otherwise the choppers are going to have a hard time
Ground forces or fast movers. How I'm going to deal with the fixed wing aircraft will be interesting... As IIRC SQUAD won't be including flyable fixed wing aircraft. They'll be controlled by AI like Post Scriptum. I don't really want to do that but of course if there is no feasible way to implement flyable aircraft due to the size of the maps then they'll have to be implemented the same way as PS.
its gonna be like rising storm vietnam when we have to land somewhere
Well the sizes of the maps will be larger
But ja finding a good place to land will be tricky on some maps with the thick bush
Could just hover
and have the guys jump out
i know some of the places was wide open so maybe that could help but that leads to the guys being sitting ducks
Ja if landing in a hot LZ it's preferable to have guys on the ground first to secure the LZ.
Otherwise you're just landing right into an enemy ambush
exactly so im thinking a Alouette goes in first with a fire team to clear the LZ somewhat for the Pumas/Oryxes
Ja well there may be various scenarios that would play out in LZ's depending on the situation
If you've got ground forces nearby it's best to have them secure the LZ first then land.
If no ground forces nearby then have fixed wing bomb the area or smoke it up and then land
Best way to minimize the risk of an LZ ambush
we'll have to test everthing ones we get there
I'm keen to see how different the meta will be compared to vanilla SQUAD
No optics, thick bush, different vehicles (SADF side anyway)
Closer engagements on many maps due to the environment and lack of scopes
Trying to get some decent black skin on the FAPLA reskins
They look weird... Bone structure is off 😬
Shrunk the camouflage pattern and made the head black
Just need to make the hands black now
Told you he looks weird... The facial bone structure isn't right 😂
its staring into my soul
Changed his hat to camo now too
Now painting in his fingers... Fokken pain in the arse that
Would be better without globes
i believe in you and hey maybe you can just remove the gloves then
they're baked into the model
Would have to edit the high and low poly model to remove the gloves. Which is not possible as I do not have access to the high poly
Doesn't matter as I'll be sculpting proper character models in the near future
nice well you are doing hella good work so i believe its gonna look good no matter what
we believe in you 😂
skee mask for the win
😅 would sweat like a pig in the Angolan bush with that on
Good thing I'll be sculpting the proper character models when I get Zbrush
id still use the hell out of it
yea thats good lol
but good place holders though
What SWAPO looked like
What UNITA looked like.
remove the kneepads and you've got a soldier
Can't do that either 😦
Baked into the low poly
damn but when you get zbrush
But again no worries as I'll have proper character models sculpted as soon as I get Zbrush. (around September)
can sombody show me some models of the guns
damn i wonder if that grenade on that gun will work
As in that particular one or ingame?
both i guess
Not sure it would work on that AK as AFAIK only the SKS, R1 and R4 could fire rifle grenades?
As for ingame ja It's something I'll need to implement for most of the factions as rifle grenades were used. Not as many under barrel grenade launchers back then
AK's had them though
oh oky it would be interesting to see
@Boomninja those rifle grenades are easy irl, the rpk muzzle was the same as the regular ak, and those grenades fit right onto the muzzle, only funny thing was that these specific grenades needed to be shot with a blank cartridge, or you might blow up the gun. This happened quite often in the shit @Springbok
@Kooijpolloi Thanks for the info man.
Ja I know about the blank cartridge thing even the R4 needs blanks to fire rifle grenades. That will make firing rifle grenades rather finicky and time consuming but realistic 😉 It also makes the M79 snotneus and Milkor Y2 MGL far more useful due to their rapid ability to put down 40mm fire
No r4 doesnt need blanks afaik uses a shot trap with a normal cartridge
I may be wrong
Really? Damn I assumed blanks I was sure I saw a 10 round magazine just for blanks
Second from bottom
Wew i see i lied its a blank firing one the design right after from the frogs is a shot trap the ac58
This one was also license built by armscor
Cool man. Downloaded for reference
Any idea how common the nutria R4 paintjobs were?
As far as i can figure out not really common
I think maybe a few units had them in nutria but its not a lot
We still use those rifle grenades
Another rifle grenade
Interesting wooden grips here with pattern 83 gear.
Weird how they still use the rifle grenades when underbarrel grenade launchers have been out for so long which offer a faster fire rate.
Another nutria R4
With the paint wearing off on the dust cover
Its faster and cheaper to use rifle grenades
And everyone can carry a couple extra
Also an underbarrel gl on an r4 would make it one really really heavy gun
True, the R4 being milled steel is certainly heavier than the mostly plastic M4
Not really because of that
Its the whole design
Long stroke piston
Bulky bolt carrier group
But its tough and it wont die
Is the galil animated yet?
Not yet. High poly model isn't finished yet.
Oh yeah cool, we were talking in Israel Defense Forces mod discord they might have an interest in that gun
Ah alright, ja not sure when it'll be done as I'm working on multiple assets simultaneously 😉
High poly is almost done though
Just a few issues with it that I need to sort out before I'm satisfied with it.
Sure thing I wonder how much gear IDF and ZA forces shared at that time
Quite a bit
Our M83 para helmet was based on an Israeli design I believe.
Same leather chin guard and all.
Of course R4 also being a Galil variant
Yeah this mod is gonna be modern IDF so I think CreativeRealms even said he would need a more modern Galil, but I suppose he could base it on the old one to make his, or use the old one as a stand in until the new one's in
Doesn't the modern IDF use the Tavor though?
Mostly yeah but Galil is still in use
Ah alright. Thought the Galil was no longer in use by the IDF.
Fun fact. South Africa produced several batches of the Galil for Israel prior to the 1990's.
I read there was even a Swedish variant lol
Modern Galil is still in use by border guards in Israel
I saw some content of the mod awhile back but haven't heard much since. Wasn't CreativeRealms streaming his modding sessions at one point?
Long time ago yeah, he's more on the mapping side right now, I think he's looking for an animator
Keen to see what the IDF mod comes up with. Always great to have unique factions and conflicts featured.
do come on
Thanks for the invite 😉
How do you play this?
Not publicly released yet.
V13 out boys!
Yup should see an update on your steam
But sdk v2 not yet out
Ja that won't be out for another couple weeks at most
The SDK is always updated a week or two after the game itself.
Gonna take me forever to download with SA Potato internet
I feel ya
Unfortunately I can't say the same as I've luckily got lekker European internet 😬
28 mins for me
10 hours for me
That's slow. Shame man
Check ya online then tomorrow after the update
Alright bru. Cheers til then.
you got 10 i got 32hours
and its still going up
yea i know but im getting fibre end of the week so all godd
Awesome what speeds you expecting?
well im getting a 10mb line
so we'll see
Ah okay should be alright.
My SQUAD is currently downloading at peak 6.5mb/s although I'm paying for a 60mb or so never ever get that high though.
if i go that high ima pay about R 10 000
Flip that's expensive...
Fiber will not make a difference in download speed it will only improve your latency. And be more constant
@everyone Check out this Website, They have a ton of free Ebooks on all military aspects including alot of the Angola war. I downloaded a few myself.
Question - I downloaded the patch (~11 gigs) then immediately after was hit with a 16.5 gig download. Did this happen to anyone else?
i haven't updated my game yet so i would not know
Imma be fuked by updates when i get internet again
I mean how many gigs can 5 months worth of updates really be... 😁
hehehe its a surprise
good luck then
Just arrived 😱
That's all of it.
No R4 though just a kak SRC with plastic furniture.
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Fucking epic round
friendlies swarmed the T-72 placed a mine on top and blew themselves and it up. Was funny as hell watching the tank's crew swirling around with the turret.
I got my nuwe PSU
I went from a 500W PSU to now a 1000W PSU