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Also, "they don't understand muh peepol"
I've seen it
RTJ isn't on yet
The obligatory "Fuck Donald Trump"
These dolts have nothing interesting to say
Honestly, perturbator was way better
And he doesn't even use vocals
Also, on a side note, I think I've made the final step toward Fascism
RTJ has a white rapper. why dont these white rappers see the racism they get for being white in a big black music indestry. i mostly mean m&m because of where he grew up, he had racism against him
Because they're culturally black
wiggers need to die
sorry for the larp
Plenty of women who are dressed like whores
Plenty of Whites here
What else do you gentlemen wish to know?
this is las vegas right?
what songs are going to play
And I don't know
Would anyone support a welfare ethnostate?
It seems as if whites are the only ones with a net positive fiscal benefit in the US
If by welfare you mean that if people work their asses off and contribute, then they get benefits from the rest of the community of they fall upon hard times?
Welfare states, in my view, seem to fail when you let people use these resources that don't contribute as much to the system, like Hispanics and blacks
just ignore the degeneracy and enjoy some tunes, also mosh. force your self to have a good time by living in the moment
Why do you think Sweden succeeded when they were all white?
Would you support universal single payer healthcare?
I prob wouldn't.
arguing with ancaps is autistic af
muh voluntary muh nap muh freedom
is the avergae weight there over or under 200lbs?
nvm sweden is 180
a small saftey net is understandable
Will report later
it can work out in a white stociety. Each recipient should be strictly vetted as well
whites generally feel shame taking welfare, minorities dont
Then again, would the free market result in better safety nets than government provided ones?
Severance packages, money after being employed, etc.
why would a free market guarantee emplyees severance packages?
it wouldn't guarantee it but companies would make them more available in order to compete for employees
not much of a saftey net then, i can't imagine a place like Walmart offering severance, and they employ exactly the kinds of people most likely to need assistance
Yes, but safety nets influence people to not try as hard
If somebody was working at Walmart and all of a sudden got laid off, he's be more likely to find a new job, work harder, or get a real skill
What makes them more likely to find a new job, and what if they don't?
Having no money and nothing to rely on makes them more likely to find a new job obviously
you cant expect everyone to just solve all their problems by pulling up their bootstraps
alright, but what if you dont
What if they don't find a job?
what if the economy sucks, or you're not in your 20s and learnign new things just isnt as easy anymore?
That's a good question. Perhaps private charity would better help these people than state-controlled welfare.
I'm not sure.
check the <#359432753474699274> and <#359517581276741644> , this is basically an ethnostate group
churches used to be in charge of those things
Like the idea of an ethnostate, is this just a side group of the First Colony?
Perhaps welfare wouldn't be necessary in an ethnostate that doesn't have high-ass taxes, university subsidization raising the costs of tuition to largely exclude the bottom half of people, thus making it very difficult and expensive to learn a skill, etc.
@WOMP WOMP boi if people need welfare, then they are a burden not an asset
we would have to see. I understand that todays welfare systems just encourage people to be lazy, but those same things might not apply to a white country
"if people need welfare, then they are a burden not an asset"
That's largely true
yes they probably are a burden, but so what, dont you think we should still show humanity and take care of them?
Give them a job instead of free food
we are separate from first colony, were focused on the pacific north west
what if there are no jobs to give, or should the government just create jobs?
There is always a job, and if not they can just work for themselves. Teach them to grow their own food, teach them to build their own house. If they can do those things then there will be no need for welfare
@Orchid PNW sounds much better to me than Maine tbh, but I'll see how much I can help with both groups
to grow your own food you need land, and farming is a hard skill, it could take years for you to learn to feed yourself properly, and thats assuming youre young
same thing goes for the house, and you need tools and materials as well
Isn't Jason practically making an argument just for public schools
that is something people in those decrepit appalachian communities should conisder instead of being poor as dirt generation after generation. But what if say youre 40 and youre factory job is gone?
You'd hope by 40 you could have set yourself up
you cant expect a factory worker to have enough money to retire at 40, and sometimes shit just happens
I understand the need for compassion and humanity but I don't want the new society to end up like the old one, a welfare state
If he doesn't have enough money to retire, maybe he should learn a skill
thats not really a reason to not help people. I think there's a right way to do welfare, it doesnt always have to turn into what it is now
i mean any society can eventually deteorate, rise and fall of civilizations and all that.
Tax/welfare is state-run slavery, the most productive of the nation loses the most to give to the least productive for nothing in return
ugh, that hyperbole again. I guess thats easy to say if your young and live in a comfortable first would country. I don't mind handing over some money to not see people starve.
@JasonWilliams Wouldn't you just have a bunch of sick, homeless, starving people everywhere?
Welfare attracts those sorts of people and the US didn't use to have welfare yet it didn't have homeless and starving people everywhere either
Instead of welfare just have a community shelter and a soup kitchen inside
To get them back up on their feet if things go bad
the US had plenty of hungry people
I don't think anyone wants another gibsmedat society
what if you have a family, are they just going to give up their life and live in a homeless shelter?
In traditional Western Societies it was Religious orders that filled the role of modern welfare
They also dealt with education and medicine
No, I wouldn't let it get to that, I'd make sure they were well set up so even in the case of my death they would still be alright
I know how to save
Also the US had far more hungry people in the past, there are very few people literally going hungry these days. Just look at the obesity rates among the poor
The poverty rate in the US right now is larger than the actual population of the US before welfare
modern poverty =/= hunger
But sure there are a lot of fattiea
Poverty is still poverty m8
Singapore has dealt with homless neets
It's literally illegal to be poor and unemployed there.
What system does Singapore use?
They put you in an apartment and give you a job- say sweeping streets
You have no option but to sweep the street.
If you don't they cane you
So now you have a job, and can pay for the apartment.
So how would we design that for the PNW colony?
Because it would be new and wouldn't have a lot of empty housing
why would we need that?
Also, for Singapore, they do have the Asian perception of honour and shame.
Which is much stronger than in Anglo culture today
welfare in the US is not a part of any municipality
but I guess we could run a charity
Charity is key
In Europe it was the Church that provided charity
That was one of the main purposes of monasteries.
Should we start a church?
And how do we stop the church from coming corrupt?
We dont have to, but we should look at how it provided social assistance.
That has been thought about, if we have enough people we probably will start a church
I think having a church in the future society would be fairly beneficial, especially for those of us who espouse faith
I've lived in rural close-knit christian communities before. Usually if a family has a problem, the rest of the community comes together and gets them out of it.
Think less religious worship and more community gathering I think
That family then feels an obligation to contribute in the future
More of a binding force rather than one strictly committed to worship
This community is open to all western faiths right?
So it would be nondemonitainally Christian?
That said, some Catholic monastic orders are comfy AF.
It will be Christian, but now is too early to decide on specifics
>every Sunday in the PNW Colony my family and I play sport with members of the local community at the church playing field and it's my father turn to cook the BBQ for everyone
Has any specific location in the northwest been discussed at all as far as the start of the homesteading?
How much land are we thinking of?
More is better
But just have to come up with a well thought out and detailed plan
Don;t know if any of you knew this, but the Yukon still allows homesteading land claims.
So, if you find land, improve it, and develop it, the government gives it to you.
Your property is your own responsibility, but I would recommend a minimum of 5 acres if you plan to feed yourself off of it.
by the way we have a <#363749894802112513> channel for this kind of discussion
yeah but isnt yukn tundra?
that's not necessary jason, we can do a google search of yukon
Reminder again that there will be a voice meeting tomorrow at 11pm est, 8pm pacific
film club at 9pm est
now i must sleep
You will need institutions of power in order to guide culture, morality, law, etc. Corruption is always an issue but you just need to study proper checks and balances, especially in the form of logic. Software engineers can be experts at evaluating and building logical checks and balances, you need some who are also well versed in culture to help prevent corruption.
Also sometimes corruption is better given a purpose instead of being purged.
Voice meeting 11 hours from now
he deleted his messages i think
I survived the degeneracy
Plenty of nogging from the opening acts, who were Cuz Lightyear and Denzel Curry
Cries of muh peepol iz mizunderstuud were aplenty
No political speeches from RTJ, however
Just the stuff in their songs
Not sure if it's a Midwest thing or not(I think it's a Midwest thing), but people were going through the crowd with no consideration for others, I only heard excuse me once, and never heard a sorry when they spilled my drink
that's some dumb vegas shit
the midwest is far more considerate
I was looking into that
Opinions on the SSPX?
Doesn't seem too bad of an idea, considering Bergoglio bringing Marxism to the fold
I've been very interested in them lately
They seem like the strongest holdouts of the pre-Vatican II world
OI IS THAT A FUCKIN HATE CRIME YA DOIN
They've got a seminary in Quebec
Actually, in Virginia
nazarene = jewish sect
pebble is jewish
i am not jewish
i am ubermensch
jewish sect my ass
basilica is the visage of the serpent
you retard, It was widely accepted by the church that the jews killed jesus
pharisees and romans did yes
The old church
tfw no overly ornate buildings in america
just started a pol thread, come bump http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/146128822
So are you planning on setting up on the Canadian side of the pacific north west?
No, the US side
but you're posting from Canada?
Indeed I am
Im a us citizen
any advice for a Canadian, to get down there? In all seriousness I've been thinking about it
Bsc in Electrical Engineering, I've worked years in Software and electro mechanical stuff
I dont know anything specific regarding immigration, but if youre that expereicned im sure it will be much easier for you than most others
Unless youre a mexican, immigration always tends to be a complex process
yeah, but that makes sense, because most mexicans are shit
Bump thread pls
Can't, VPN keeps me from posting
is that so?
smh always gonna have the nonbelievers
ethnic homogeny by itself won't solve much
there is also a requirement of good morals and values
to steer people away from sexual deviancy and moral degeneracy
just started a pol thread, come bump http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/146128822
and as such the white race shall continue