Also, "they don't understand muh peepol"

I've seen it

RTJ isn't on yet

rip

Also

The obligatory "Fuck Donald Trump"

aww

These dolts have nothing interesting to say

Honestly, perturbator was way better

And he doesn't even use vocals

Also, on a side note, I think I've made the final step toward Fascism

RTJ has a white rapper. why dont these white rappers see the racism they get for being white in a big black music indestry. i mostly mean m&m because of where he grew up, he had racism against him

Because they're culturally black

>:0

wiggers need to die

sorry for the larp

Its cool

Plenty of women who are dressed like whores

Unconventional piercings

Plenty of Whites here

What else do you gentlemen wish to know?

this is las vegas right?

what songs are going to play

Correct

And I don't know

Brooklyn Bowl

Would anyone support a welfare ethnostate?

It seems as if whites are the only ones with a net positive fiscal benefit in the US

If by welfare you mean that if people work their asses off and contribute, then they get benefits from the rest of the community of they fall upon hard times?

Then yes

If*

Welfare states, in my view, seem to fail when you let people use these resources that don't contribute as much to the system, like Hispanics and blacks

Of course

just ignore the degeneracy and enjoy some tunes, also mosh. force your self to have a good time by living in the moment

Why do you think Sweden succeeded when they were all white?

Would you support universal single payer healthcare?

I prob wouldn't.

I wouldn't

arguing with ancaps is autistic af

muh voluntary muh nap muh freedom

is the avergae weight there over or under 200lbs?

197.5

lol

nvm sweden is 180

a small saftey net is understandable

Will report later

it can work out in a white stociety. Each recipient should be strictly vetted as well

whites generally feel shame taking welfare, minorities dont

Then again, would the free market result in better safety nets than government provided ones?

Severance packages, money after being employed, etc.

why would a free market guarantee emplyees severance packages?

it wouldn't guarantee it but companies would make them more available in order to compete for employees

not much of a saftey net then, i can't imagine a place like Walmart offering severance, and they employ exactly the kinds of people most likely to need assistance

Yes, but safety nets influence people to not try as hard

If somebody was working at Walmart and all of a sudden got laid off, he's be more likely to find a new job, work harder, or get a real skill

What makes them more likely to find a new job, and what if they don't?

Having no money and nothing to rely on makes them more likely to find a new job obviously

you cant expect everyone to just solve all their problems by pulling up their bootstraps

@JasonWilliams welcome

alright, but what if you dont

What's this?

What if they don't find a job?

what if the economy sucks, or you're not in your 20s and learnign new things just isnt as easy anymore?

That's a good question. Perhaps private charity would better help these people than state-controlled welfare.

I'm not sure.

check the <#359432753474699274> and <#359517581276741644> , this is basically an ethnostate group

maybe

churches used to be in charge of those things

@Orchid just read the faq

Like the idea of an ethnostate, is this just a side group of the First Colony?

Perhaps welfare wouldn't be necessary in an ethnostate that doesn't have high-ass taxes, university subsidization raising the costs of tuition to largely exclude the bottom half of people, thus making it very difficult and expensive to learn a skill, etc.

@WOMP WOMP boi if people need welfare, then they are a burden not an asset

we would have to see. I understand that todays welfare systems just encourage people to be lazy, but those same things might not apply to a white country

"if people need welfare, then they are a burden not an asset"

That's largely true

yes they probably are a burden, but so what, dont you think we should still show humanity and take care of them?

^

Give them a job instead of free food

we are separate from first colony, were focused on the pacific north west

government jobs?

what if there are no jobs to give, or should the government just create jobs?

There is always a job, and if not they can just work for themselves. Teach them to grow their own food, teach them to build their own house. If they can do those things then there will be no need for welfare

@Orchid PNW sounds much better to me than Maine tbh, but I'll see how much I can help with both groups

to grow your own food you need land, and farming is a hard skill, it could take years for you to learn to feed yourself properly, and thats assuming youre young

same thing goes for the house, and you need tools and materials as well

Isn't Jason practically making an argument just for public schools

that is something people in those decrepit appalachian communities should conisder instead of being poor as dirt generation after generation. But what if say youre 40 and youre factory job is gone?

You'd hope by 40 you could have set yourself up

you cant expect a factory worker to have enough money to retire at 40, and sometimes shit just happens

I understand the need for compassion and humanity but I don't want the new society to end up like the old one, a welfare state

If he doesn't have enough money to retire, maybe he should learn a skill

thats not really a reason to not help people. I think there's a right way to do welfare, it doesnt always have to turn into what it is now

i mean any society can eventually deteorate, rise and fall of civilizations and all that.

Tax/welfare is state-run slavery, the most productive of the nation loses the most to give to the least productive for nothing in return

ugh, that hyperbole again. I guess thats easy to say if your young and live in a comfortable first would country. I don't mind handing over some money to not see people starve.

@JasonWilliams Wouldn't you just have a bunch of sick, homeless, starving people everywhere?

Welfare attracts those sorts of people and the US didn't use to have welfare yet it didn't have homeless and starving people everywhere either

Instead of welfare just have a community shelter and a soup kitchen inside

To get them back up on their feet if things go bad

the US had plenty of hungry people

I don't think anyone wants another gibsmedat society

@Orchid not as many as they do now

what if you have a family, are they just going to give up their life and live in a homeless shelter?

In traditional Western Societies it was Religious orders that filled the role of modern welfare

They also dealt with education and medicine

No, I wouldn't let it get to that, I'd make sure they were well set up so even in the case of my death they would still be alright

I know how to save

Also the US had far more hungry people in the past, there are very few people literally going hungry these days. Just look at the obesity rates among the poor

The poverty rate in the US right now is larger than the actual population of the US before welfare

modern poverty =/= hunger

But sure there are a lot of fattiea

Fatties*

Poverty is still poverty m8

Singapore has dealt with homless neets

It's literally illegal to be poor and unemployed there.

What system does Singapore use?

They put you in an apartment and give you a job- say sweeping streets

You have no option but to sweep the street.

If you don't they cane you

So now you have a job, and can pay for the apartment.

So how would we design that for the PNW colony?

Because it would be new and wouldn't have a lot of empty housing

why would we need that?

Also, for Singapore, they do have the Asian perception of honour and shame.

Which is much stronger than in Anglo culture today

welfare in the US is not a part of any municipality

but I guess we could run a charity

Charity is key

In Europe it was the Church that provided charity

That was one of the main purposes of monasteries.

Should we start a church?

And how do we stop the church from coming corrupt?

We dont have to, but we should look at how it provided social assistance.

That has been thought about, if we have enough people we probably will start a church

I think having a church in the future society would be fairly beneficial, especially for those of us who espouse faith

I've lived in rural close-knit christian communities before. Usually if a family has a problem, the rest of the community comes together and gets them out of it.

Think less religious worship and more community gathering I think

That family then feels an obligation to contribute in the future

More of a binding force rather than one strictly committed to worship

This community is open to all western faiths right?

yes

So it would be nondemonitainally Christian?

That said, some Catholic monastic orders are comfy AF.

It will be Christian, but now is too early to decide on specifics

>every Sunday in the PNW Colony my family and I play sport with members of the local community at the church playing field and it's my father turn to cook the BBQ for everyone

Has any specific location in the northwest been discussed at all as far as the start of the homesteading?

How much land are we thinking of?

1000 Acres?

to start?

More is better

But just have to come up with a well thought out and detailed plan

Don;t know if any of you knew this, but the Yukon still allows homesteading land claims.

Yukon?

So, if you find land, improve it, and develop it, the government gives it to you.

Your property is your own responsibility, but I would recommend a minimum of 5 acres if you plan to feed yourself off of it.

by the way we have a <#363749894802112513> channel for this kind of discussion

yeah but isnt yukn tundra?

that's not necessary jason, we can do a google search of yukon

Reminder again that there will be a voice meeting tomorrow at 11pm est, 8pm pacific

film club at 9pm est

now i must sleep

You will need institutions of power in order to guide culture, morality, law, etc. Corruption is always an issue but you just need to study proper checks and balances, especially in the form of logic. Software engineers can be experts at evaluating and building logical checks and balances, you need some who are also well versed in culture to help prevent corruption.

Also sometimes corruption is better given a purpose instead of being purged.

Welcome

Voice meeting 11 hours from now

problem?

@Orchid he's just being a piece of shit, don't worry about it lol

Who?

he deleted his messages i think

I survived the degeneracy

@ThreeSpearHand good

Plenty of nogging from the opening acts, who were Cuz Lightyear and Denzel Curry

Cries of muh peepol iz mizunderstuud were aplenty

No political speeches from RTJ, however

Just the stuff in their songs

Not sure if it's a Midwest thing or not(I think it's a Midwest thing), but people were going through the crowd with no consideration for others, I only heard excuse me once, and never heard a sorry when they spilled my drink

that's some dumb vegas shit

the midwest is far more considerate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantism

mel gibson

I was looking into that

Opinions on the SSPX?

Doesn't seem too bad of an idea, considering Bergoglio bringing Marxism to the fold

sspx?

Sspx?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X

I've been very interested in them lately

They seem like the strongest holdouts of the pre-Vatican II world

OI IS THAT A FUCKIN HATE CRIME YA DOIN

They've got a seminary in Quebec

hehe

catholics

die, jew

Actually, in Virginia

http://fsspx.org/en/content/6055

hehehe

catholicucks

nazarene = jewish sect

pebble is jewish

no

i am not jewish

i am ubermensch

hmm

hehe

jewish sect my ass

compared to

basilica is the visage of the serpent

you retard, It was widely accepted by the church that the jews killed jesus

pharisees and romans did yes

talmudists

dum dum

The old church

church 🤢

tfw no overly ornate buildings in america

just started a pol thread, come bump http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/146128822

So are you planning on setting up on the Canadian side of the pacific north west?

No, the US side

but you're posting from Canada?

Indeed I am

Im a us citizen

ahhh

any advice for a Canadian, to get down there? In all seriousness I've been thinking about it

Bsc in Electrical Engineering, I've worked years in Software and electro mechanical stuff

I dont know anything specific regarding immigration, but if youre that expereicned im sure it will be much easier for you than most others

Unless youre a mexican, immigration always tends to be a complex process

yeah, but that makes sense, because most mexicans are shit

Bump thread pls

bumped it

Can't, VPN keeps me from posting

@The Chef welcome

yes

yes

is that so?

smh always gonna have the nonbelievers

ethnic homogeny by itself won't solve much

there is also a requirement of good morals and values

to steer people away from sexual deviancy and moral degeneracy

just started a pol thread, come bump http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/146128822

and as such the white race shall continue