If you wan't to have an unproductive life, then go ahead

As I said, you only get one chance to live on earth

Might as well do something with that life

Special Blend 4: The Erisian / Luciferian Dialectic

https://vimeo.com/265524091

@Legion we btfod pagans sassanids and romans

go cry

Muslim

Gay

no u

gotem

If you want to know the meaning of life for an atheist, it is self determination and living life to the fullest where you yourself reach the very limits of potential.

For nationalists it is preservation of the group through hard work and reaching the highest potential for a legacy that will outshine and outlive yourself.

For the religious it is living morally, having an easy living and by following the traditions of your scriptures until the end of the world of your time comes.

This is just the basis. It can be expanded upon through more philosophy if you'd like.

I find that atheists generally fall into the nihilist camp

finding meaning for them is impossible often because a lack of anything to verify or validate this higher purpose

otherwise its once again simply subjective

and arbitrary

either that or they take the divine ego route

Everyone validates their own purpose. Theists validate it with their god that they project their morals on to. Atheists just skip that and own their purpose.

@L0GAN hola mi amigo

Convert

Mormon?

Convert

I was a Mormon

*am*

Why were you a Mormon?

he was gay lol

Fellas

members of The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints are literally Based and redpilled

They are the saviours of the white race

I have afriend in that denomination, he is pretty chill.

you dont deserve to live with a mormon friend

@Lucien Joseph Smit was a pedophile

Not a Mormon friend, a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints.

@Legion source

@Victor Von Doom I was just a Mormon by default

As my entire family is mormon

I only started questioning the Church a few years ago

By that time though I was already baptized as a Mormon

So

oof

😎

@Lucien It's a fact that he had a 14 yr old wife

Source

3 more days to the celebration for the birth of my Lord

I love the Franco flag as profile pic.

Franco

Ew

Better than Communists during civil war

José Antonio > Francisco Franco

The Communists were just a mismatch group of socialists and communists, Franco got stuff done

Also @Spookaswa how does Mormonism vary from the majority of other denominations?

Also what are your beliefs now?

I'm not too sure, besides the fact that Mormons thought Jesus and God visited North America at some point, I never really got too into it

And as of now I am Agnostic

I know many Christians don’t consider Mormons to be Christian. And why agnosticism?

Eh, I haven't made up my mind yet if I should become religious or become Atheist, both sides of the argument have good points, and even if I do decide to become religious, I'd then need to decide which religion I would want to be a follower of, and then choose one of the religion's sects.

I would advise a leap of faith, that is always necessary to go from Agnosticism to religion.
Go to a not Mormon local Church's service one Sunday, or any other religions place of congregation.
I believe religion is better than no religion, but I would have to vouch for Christianity over other religions.

Yeah I'd probably become Christian if I were to become religious

Best of luck with your faith.

Thanks

just become muslim xd

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8014880/biohacker-injects-dna-sequence-bible-koran-verses/

or do this

No thanks

inject quran and bible @Spookaswa

no

FFS "biohacker" lol, injected himself with DNA

literally does nothing but cause a mild inflammatory reaction, and digestion

inb4 his body mutates and becomes a human sized fully readable bible

lmao

his leg swelled up

wtf

just be muslim lol

"JusT Be MuSlIm LoLOlaol"

"ISlaM StrOnK!!!!1"

Islam is shit, change my mind.

no u

Okay, that was the best argument I've ever heard.

@Muhammad Al-Tajir Why should I join islam? Can I still practice witchcraft?

Only if you’re African

@Lucien Are you a Mormon

I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Up5Owtqr30

@Lucien Same here

Gang

@Legion

@Legion no

Gay Communazi Confederate States of America

@Muhammad Al-Tajir then fuck off with that shit

<@&516817984782729217> Daily Question <:PraiseGod:484196233020440586>

- What form of government is best according to the Bible, does it even mention anything about forms of government?

rip chat

Christian communism

"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. And Gods grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need"

@The Big Oof

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+4:32-35

In the Acts 2 church, the people were giving to each other out of their own good will to those who had a need, and they were giving freely, without regulation of how much they were to give. In other words, they shared what they had out of a shared love for one another and a common goal, living for Christ and glorifying God. In a communist society, people give because a system of government forces them to give.

the state will disappear under communism

Also, I'm joking

But there are some out there like this

Absolute Monarchy

probably

Have smaller communities which act like Hutterite societies, a type of joint living similar to Communism works splendidly then.
It just makes the group weak to larger external forces.
Which makes a one cultured state under most likely an absolute monarchy best because it has most of the unity which Hutterite societies provide while being strong and efficient.

Fascism

@The Big Oof I will debunk that soon

Give me a moment

@Da_Fish I was joking

Autocracy

@Da_Fish, if you could still post whatever you were going to for debunking Shen Bapiro's joke, I'd be very interested

Not to imply I believe the joke anyway, but I've been somewhat studying the Bible lately

@Diadochi sure

Looking at the Acts of the Apostles. Studying the way early Christians lives is very important to our understand and worship of God. However, some verses seem to be born out of circumstance, rather than the law of God itself. Was Acts 4:32-35 the law, or the circumstance of the time? I am inclined to think circumstances considering other passages. The Bible at no other point has a problem with private property. It encourages charity, but does not require it. The story of Cain and Abel comes to mind. It is widely believed by biblical scholars and historians that, Acts 4:32-35 was not what was required, but the circumstance due to lack of resources and mass ostracizing of Christians. Until the Edict of Milan, Christians lives in constant state of persecution, and such a communal system made more survival state. This did not make them communist, a moment that arose in the 1800’s, it simply made them, like humans do, meet their circumstance with adaptation. Communism is permanent and seen as the only moral and correct way to view society. While what these early Christians did was similar to Communalism, it did not assert it as permanent, nor did it assert it as the one true way to live or act.

@Diadochi that’s the short version

thank you

@Legion no

according to abrahamic law legion must be burned

Burn the muslims

ironically enough

didnt adolf like muslims

kek

just because we had a verse against jews the nazis wanted a german qur'an translation

Baptists are not Protestants

People are usually put in one of three religious groups. If you are not a Jew or a Roman Catholic, then automatically you are a Protestant. Consequently, Baptists are usually called "Protestants." However, this does not match the facts. Baptists never have been Protestants.

The Protestant Reformation is usually dated from October 31, 1517, when Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the Castle Church in Wittenburg, Germany. However, this was only one of a series of acts that led to the open rupture with Rome.

An event of utmost importance, but often unnoticed, is the Second Diet (or Council) of Speier, April 25, 1529. This was a Roman Catholic Council for the purpose of taking action against the Turks and checking the progress of Lutherans and others who were not cooperating with the Pope. Certain Lutheran princes appeared before this Roman Catholic Diet with a formal written protest against those matters in which the Diet went contrary to the Christian faith as they understood it. This protest was signed by Elector John of Saxony, Margrave George of Brandenburg, Dukes Ernest and Francis of Braunschweig-Luneburg, Landgrave Philip of Hesse, Prince Wolfgang of Anhalt and the representatives of fourteen imperial cities. The protest was designed to protect them from the decisions of this Council. It was a defensive measure. The celebrated church historian, Philip Schaaf, makes the noteworthy statement "From this protest. and appeal, the Lutherans were called Protestants." (History of the Christian Church, Volume VII, p.692). The same facts are stated in the Catholic Encyclopedia (Volume Xll, p.495).

These Lutheran leaders, and a few Reformed, who made this appeal and protest at the famous Diet of Speier were speaking for themselves and not for Baptists, of whom they themselves said in their written statement, "All Anabaptists and rebaptized persons, male or female, of mature age, shall be judged and brought from natural life to death, by fire, or sword or otherwise, as may benefit the persons, without preceding trial by spiritual judges." The Baptists then did not share in this protest and consequently cannot bear the name "Protestant."

Cardinal Hosius says, "Were it not that the Baptists have been grievously tormented and cut off with the knife during the past 1,200 years, they would swarm in greater number than all the Reformers" (Letters Apud Opera, pp.112, 113). Note carefully that this knowledgeable Catholic scholar has spoken of the vicious persecution Baptists have endured, that he clearly distinguishes them from the Reformers, and that he dates them 1,200 years before the Protestant Reformation

Christian Communalism

best system of government

decentralized communal federations

it is but the way of *koinonia*

@el pebble that's still heretical, you focus more on ideology than the religion itself, you only used religion as a means to an end, which is heretical.

>you cannot serve both god and money
>establish a political system entirely focused on materialistic goals rather than spiritual

I see a contradiction here

@Doctor Anon dude what

thats a strong claim

especially since the catholic worker movement's leader is possibly to be canonized by the Church

why would i not support an ideology that is the true bulwark of my faith

@Doctor Anon are you going to answer me

guess not

ортодонтия

The Jewish religion has negatively affected everyone. Christianity is a curious mix of Jewish beliefs and Pagan tradition and unfortunately, both are destroying Western society.

one of these people

>muh dead kike on a stick
>sand religion

heretic.

Jesus died so you would be saved from kike trickery in the future.

I'm a Jew. Sup

Imma ask you nicely, either help us tear down your people's zog machine or gas yourself.

imma party it up first

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/521572006143983646/527390719795658753/4ef.png

Epicest.

@4042 im starting to like evola more and more

@MinecraftMemer interestingly enough i find the history of christianity in europe interesting, on one hand it allowed europe to survive, on the other hand it seeks to destroy its ethnic homogeneity, and necessarily dose so usually through the organization of the church and its philosophy as in international and generally globalist entity, rather than a local one.

generally christianity in the east, so generally speaking slavic, some scandinavian, finnish etc. territories was absolutely and destructively enforced, not to mention essentially an area being crusaded because for example the balts were forming a polytheistic state. SO the tuetons decided to subdue them and introduce christianity so compeltely that they simply ended up causing a war and genociding the old prussians who no longer exist. Not to mention that the local pagan costoms were absolutely systematically destroyed, and records were pruposefully scarce. In one way christianity has sought to uproot the peoples of europe

in another way it functioned to stabilize their nationhood.

however i may be one of the few christians to say it, but in the end it seems that christianity is inherently, as an organization, against european homogeneity

Think that by uniting the people under one faith, it caused a lot more good than harm. It forced people to work together at the cost of national identity but by doing so it solidified a moral superiority in the people that eventually led to Nations of today.

And I mean nations as they were founded, not the modern depravity

"we think that if a Western tradition could be rebuilt it would be bound to take on a religious form in the strictest sense of this word, and that this form could only be Christian; for on the one hand the other possible forms have been too long foreign to the Western mentality, and on the other it is only in Christianity-and we can say still more definitely in Catholicism-that such remnants of a traditional spirit as still exist in the West are to be found. Every 'traditionalist' venture that ignores this fact is without foundation and therefore inevitably doomed to failure; it is self-evident that one can build only upon something that has a real existence, and that where there is lack of continuity, any reconstruction must be artificial and cannot endure." - Rene Guenon in Crisis of the modern world @Bogatyr Bogumir @Crazed Shotgun

Religion has definitely not allowed Europe to survive. If anything, it caused the decay of the Roman Empire, the weakness of several states including the United States today and tends to divide, rather than unite people, as seen in the Reformation. In order to make moral and ethical decisions that are logical, leaders must make decisions based on reason, not a book written by some Jews 2000 years ago.

The Middle Ages, nicknamed the Dark Ages, did have a few advancements, namely, an advancement in warfare and and an advancement in religious understandings, both useless towards the progression and improvement of the human condition.

The true advancements came during the Renaissance and Industrial Age, with scientific rigor and curiosity replacing the superstition and paranoia of religion and capitalist expansion replacing the asceticism of Christianity.

Spoken like a true decadent modernist

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The true advancements came during the Renaissance and Industrial Age, with scientific rigor and curiosity replacing the superstition and paranoia of religion and capitalist expansion replacing the asceticism of Christianity.
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You forgot to mention that during Renaissance, Deism and Atheist rised, causing a fair damage to the religions, mostly the Christian ones. However, this had as a result the creation of new ideas and stereotypes, leading to the expansion of Homosexuality and other "degenerate" beliefs.

With the decline of the Catholic Church, Protestantism was created, and rised, as well as Orthodoxy began getting powerful again.

Right now, the lack of religion in some parts of Europe, has also caused the decline of morality in countries with high atheist population, like Sweden.

Homosexuality is a purely Western invention. There were no such homosexual practices in America, Africa or Asia prior of colonization, while colonization brought medicine and technology, it also brought the mental illness of homosexuality.

Homosexuality was only a problem in the Middle East and in Greece and Rome, like how disease spreads with trade, homosexuality spread with Western culture and Christian and proto-Christian (Jewish) beliefs.

And lest us forget, that the recent medical treatments of homosexuality, such as chemical castration, are both more civilized, less unpleasant, and more effective that the old treatments of homosexuality, namely, death.

Also, the emasculation of Swedish society is a reflection on the general emasculation of religion, for example, Jesus taught people to turn the other cheek. This type of emasculation leads to cognitive dissonance, and it psychologically changes men to become homosexual.

>"Homosexuality is purely Western"
>proceeds to invoke the Middle East

Also, the Japanese practiced pederasty the same as Greece.

When did that happen in Greece? Can you give me a trustworthy source?

Also, pederasty is not necessarily related to Homosexuality.

Nevermind, it was pederasty.

But nevertheless, the Christian religions with their Jewish beliefs peddle emasculating ideas which fundamentally undermine the male psyche which causes men to turn homosexual.

After all, what other cultural factor could so heavily induce homosexuality that a belief in emasculation?

Also, Middle Eastern is Semetic, specifically Jewish, so I added that so there would be no confusion.

Pederasty is homosexuality lmao

it's not as bad as gay identity but it's still gay shit

No.

`Homosexuality was only a problem in the Middle East and in Greece and Rome, like how disease spreads with trade, homosexuality spread with Western culture and Christian and proto-Christian (Jewish) beliefs.`

It's outlawed in the bible

wtf are you on about

I can't think of an earlier document which outlawed it

@MinecraftMemer

The fact that they had to make a law about it shows how much of a problem it was in Jewish culture.

murder must've also then been a major problem

Of course it was

and the eating of shellfish

they couldn't stand all the shellfish eating

so they outlawed it

When you live in the desert for 40 years, there is very little responsibility.

this is as retarded as women studies

The ancient Jews are fundamentally the same as modern Arabs

you said it spread with jewish beliefs

while the jewish belief

is that it's wrong

And the Jewish beliefs such as effeminacy have carried on

you're trying to argue against the sky being blue

If you think these beliefs are universal, you are mistaken.

Homosexuality is not universal

Similarly, eating shellfish is not universal

Even opposition to murder is not universal.

The Aztecs killed people all the time.

let's summarize your insanity so that it's clear: You think that desert climate cultivated homosexuality amongst Jews to a level where they had to ban it, while elsewhere, it wasn't at all present. And then once Jews moved elsewhere, despite bringing their text which forbids homosexuality, they actually were bringing some subversive unwritten promotion of homosexuality and that other parts of the bible in effect promote it, but they're unapparent.

Yes, the desert climate cultivated emasculation, which resulted in homosexuality, which meant that when the Jews left the desert but continued their now emasculating traditions, they had to explicitly ban it.

lol

Other cultures that have needed to take on Christian views have also needed to ban homosexuality, and today, because of Christian missionaries, nearly all the corners of the world have been exposed to the emasculating effects of Christian society.

I'm not saying Christian emasculation has been wholly bad, emasculated men tend to be very good at certain things that non-emasculated men are not good at.

But it is the unfortunate result of some of Christian philosophy that homosexuality has emerged.

is this when we hear about what an alpha paki you are and how we should also worship a 10 legged androgenous goddess to reclaim our testosterone?

I think that a step forward would be to reject the ultimate truth as something a bunch of Jews cobbled together 2000 years ago.

what's your religion?

I'm an agnostic.

of what background?

I was never raised religious, I have attended church a few times and I noticed it was very authoritarian and restraining.

what's your ethnic background?

I would worship the 10 legged testosterone god

My ethnicity has an IQ average over 100.

That's all you need to know.

that's nice

is your ethnicity european in origin?

are you a whole standard deviation below that or just part of one

If I'm not, I would be an honorary white in South Africa.

this isn't hard, man

look, I'm a jew

lmao

now you do it

implying there aren't many ethnicities with >100 avg iq

I'm one of those ethnicities

your zionism is showing

I hope so

I don't believe my ethnicity would contribute to this conversation.

lol

strong , masculine, fearless man

And clever

why are you too scared to mention your ethnicity

Strength is not only what you have, but what others think you could have.

I think you could get pegged by a tranny

I've noticed this trend online

where the crazies

are now doing what academic leftists are doing

Lmao, rage much?

that sounds like rage?

anyway, you're the same as a postmodern grad student

and it's now a trend online

I'm a student, but I'm an scientist.