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2018-08-05 18:08:59 UTC

except for jews

2018-08-05 18:08:59 UTC

but it must not be threatening to national security

2018-08-05 18:09:04 UTC

No it's not essential it's a nicety we need to have our territory defined spiritually otherwise prepared to be conquered

2018-08-05 18:09:15 UTC

I'm saying that it is impractical to keep holding onto something that may have run its course

2018-08-05 18:09:17 UTC

Multi religious empires have thrived

2018-08-05 18:09:23 UTC

and fallen

2018-08-05 18:09:28 UTC

what is your point?

2018-08-05 18:09:29 UTC

so has everything

2018-08-05 18:09:40 UTC

Know what you're saying is is to allow foreign spiritualities to take over I don't think you're being practical in any way whatsoever

2018-08-05 18:09:56 UTC

You are merely setting up the ability for Christianity to be subverted

2018-08-05 18:10:00 UTC

Christianity was once a foreign religion from the Jewish people lmao

2018-08-05 18:10:11 UTC

But was eventually adapted to suit the Romans

2018-08-05 18:10:15 UTC

`foreign spiritualities`

2018-08-05 18:10:15 UTC

for a guy using a popes name you donโ€™t seem too faithful

2018-08-05 18:10:20 UTC

Do you think you live in a vacuum where there is Christianity or Nothing at All.... I think you should look at the globe and see what's happening my friend

2018-08-05 18:10:22 UTC

I am a protestant

2018-08-05 18:10:30 UTC

Good

2018-08-05 18:10:31 UTC

ahahahaha

2018-08-05 18:10:33 UTC

It's time to stop being stupid

2018-08-05 18:10:45 UTC

I see you haven't joined the Catholic cult

2018-08-05 18:10:51 UTC

I use this pfp to make fun of sede's

2018-08-05 18:10:56 UTC

I was a catholic

2018-08-05 18:10:59 UTC

and pretending to be naive about these thought experiments were Christianity just goes away on its own and become something else in a vacuum without influence from foreign influence

2018-08-05 18:11:36 UTC

This idiocy has led us to where we are now

2018-08-05 18:11:45 UTC

John Locke was a fool

2018-08-05 18:11:56 UTC

Imagine a world without Christianity

2018-08-05 18:11:57 UTC

no he wasn't

2018-08-05 18:11:59 UTC
2018-08-05 18:12:00 UTC

I dont think you're understanding. I'm not even implying it is either Christianity or nothing. I'm saying that as traditionalists we should know that traditionalism doesnt advocate for the holding onto of dead or dying values. Traditionalism does very much allow us to go forward and leave the past behind but in ways that are socially necessary and organic

2018-08-05 18:12:07 UTC

He founded the fucking country your in RN

2018-08-05 18:12:14 UTC

no he didnโ€™t

2018-08-05 18:12:17 UTC

Locke led to the USA

2018-08-05 18:12:30 UTC

his theories are almost perfectly implemented in 1789

2018-08-05 18:12:36 UTC

Try reading John Locke he's a Pie in the Sky Fantasy having philosopher totally untethered to reality totally ungrounded to the defensive nature that Western Civilization needed to have completely divorced from geopolitics and reality

2018-08-05 18:12:39 UTC

with the writing of the consitutions

2018-08-05 18:12:41 UTC

thatโ€™s like saying marx founded the ussr

2018-08-05 18:12:50 UTC

You know what he meant

2018-08-05 18:12:56 UTC

His pretty little rationalizations... Have shown themselves to be nonsensical in the modern world

2018-08-05 18:13:11 UTC

And only barely made sense in the homogeneous states that he lived in in his time

2018-08-05 18:13:23 UTC

yeah i knew what he meant and i said itโ€™s wrong

2018-08-05 18:13:27 UTC

Lmao

2018-08-05 18:13:28 UTC

I can grant that he could not have foreseen multiculturalism but now we have seen it so we can't be so stupid

2018-08-05 18:13:33 UTC

The problem with Lockeanism is that its state of nature never existed nor could ever exist

2018-08-05 18:13:50 UTC

Social contract theory is big gay

2018-08-05 18:14:06 UTC

why

2018-08-05 18:15:25 UTC

Right

2018-08-05 18:15:27 UTC

Social Contract is necessary

2018-08-05 18:15:32 UTC

you need some order

2018-08-05 18:15:40 UTC

Because people dont consciously come together to set up a society. Lockeanism assumes that the state of nature is actually kind of peaceful but it isnt. Civilization exists because violence is the fundamental problem plaguing humanity. People dont "come together" and agree on things in the sense of consciously willing this. They are pretty much forced

2018-08-05 18:15:50 UTC

You have to understand it's limitations

2018-08-05 18:16:12 UTC

As if the Constitution is a social contract

2018-08-05 18:18:25 UTC

Imagine not living in America and not having basic rights

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/475729305918242838/Capture1.PNG

2018-08-05 18:18:27 UTC

If we assume social contract theory then yeah the Constitution would be a social contract of some sort. There's nothing to suppose that the initial contract can't temporally spread out to be valid across generations

2018-08-05 18:18:31 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-08-05 18:19:51 UTC

Who voted for it..it was brought by violence

2018-08-05 18:20:05 UTC

Our current state was brought by violence

2018-08-05 18:20:12 UTC

Locke was just wrong

2018-08-05 18:20:15 UTC

Dont go to Unite the Right 2

2018-08-05 18:20:16 UTC

btw

2018-08-05 18:20:17 UTC

Hobbes was right

2018-08-05 18:20:20 UTC

please

2018-08-05 18:20:21 UTC

dont go

2018-08-05 18:20:25 UTC

LOLOL

2018-08-05 18:20:27 UTC

donโ€™t tell me what to do

2018-08-05 18:20:30 UTC

I can't anyway

2018-08-05 18:20:38 UTC

Have a vacation planned for then

2018-08-05 18:20:38 UTC

You are making right wing look like retards

2018-08-05 18:20:42 UTC

if you go

2018-08-05 18:20:46 UTC
2018-08-05 18:21:02 UTC

if i want to get in to street brawls well then ill get in to street brawls

2018-08-05 18:21:25 UTC

Idiot

2018-08-05 18:21:36 UTC

You will make everyone in your movement look bad

2018-08-05 18:22:12 UTC

thatโ€™s why ill wear civnat and ancap stuff ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-08-05 18:22:38 UTC

Well that's kinda the point. It's pretty unfeasible to get each new generation to verbally or consciously reaffirm the contract. People reaffirm it by inheriting, accepting, and living out its precepts. The whole point is that some violence must be done to ensure a functional society, if by violence you simply mean against one's will. But i dont accept that definition. Violence to me is conflict with ambiguity and there really is no ambiguity nor conflict when people implicitly accept the contract.

2018-08-05 18:25:08 UTC

there is unironically nothing wrong with street brawls as long as you donโ€™t instigate it

2018-08-05 18:25:52 UTC

marching through streets is an essential part of all respectable movements

2018-08-05 18:26:21 UTC

Brawlers will be flogged. Change my mind

2018-08-05 18:38:47 UTC

Wyoming

2018-08-05 18:39:19 UTC

Western vacation....like Westworld!

2018-08-05 18:39:24 UTC

๐Ÿ˜

2018-08-05 18:39:29 UTC

You're so jealous

2018-08-05 18:40:29 UTC

Not only is it unfeasible...it never happened initially!!!!!!!

2018-08-05 18:40:34 UTC

It's a myth

2018-08-05 18:40:47 UTC

Like I said it was created by raw power

2018-08-05 18:41:07 UTC

Not lockean contractual permission

2018-08-05 18:41:15 UTC

That never ever happened

2018-08-05 18:52:10 UTC

youll never get to a point where you can flog anyone without a few brawls

2018-08-05 18:54:35 UTC

So we have a foundational myth of social contract

2018-08-05 18:54:44 UTC

Locke is almost used as a cover up

2018-08-05 18:54:50 UTC

For reality

2018-08-05 18:54:55 UTC

A facade

2018-08-05 18:55:08 UTC

Weekly (I think) reminder that socialism is the best system to achieve fair pay for all, and stop the media-slave state.

2018-08-05 18:55:55 UTC

but not everyone deserves fair pay, friend

2018-08-05 18:57:28 UTC

I know. I said fair pay for all

2018-08-05 18:58:16 UTC

How much do you know about socialism? I'll be more specific, democratic socialism. @Deleted User

2018-08-05 19:01:32 UTC

LOLOL

2018-08-05 19:01:40 UTC

OI

2018-08-05 19:01:42 UTC

M8

2018-08-05 19:01:47 UTC

I saw that

2018-08-05 19:01:49 UTC

Egalitarianism will never be realized

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