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2018-08-05 18:12:36 UTC  

Try reading John Locke he's a Pie in the Sky Fantasy having philosopher totally untethered to reality totally ungrounded to the defensive nature that Western Civilization needed to have completely divorced from geopolitics and reality

2018-08-05 18:12:39 UTC  

with the writing of the consitutions

2018-08-05 18:12:41 UTC  

thatโ€™s like saying marx founded the ussr

2018-08-05 18:12:50 UTC  

You know what he meant

2018-08-05 18:12:56 UTC  

His pretty little rationalizations... Have shown themselves to be nonsensical in the modern world

2018-08-05 18:13:11 UTC  

And only barely made sense in the homogeneous states that he lived in in his time

2018-08-05 18:13:23 UTC  

yeah i knew what he meant and i said itโ€™s wrong

2018-08-05 18:13:27 UTC  

Lmao

2018-08-05 18:13:28 UTC  

I can grant that he could not have foreseen multiculturalism but now we have seen it so we can't be so stupid

2018-08-05 18:13:33 UTC  

The problem with Lockeanism is that its state of nature never existed nor could ever exist

2018-08-05 18:13:50 UTC  

Social contract theory is big gay

2018-08-05 18:14:06 UTC  

why

2018-08-05 18:15:25 UTC  

Right

2018-08-05 18:15:27 UTC  

Social Contract is necessary

2018-08-05 18:15:32 UTC  

you need some order

2018-08-05 18:15:40 UTC  

Because people dont consciously come together to set up a society. Lockeanism assumes that the state of nature is actually kind of peaceful but it isnt. Civilization exists because violence is the fundamental problem plaguing humanity. People dont "come together" and agree on things in the sense of consciously willing this. They are pretty much forced

2018-08-05 18:15:50 UTC  

You have to understand it's limitations

2018-08-05 18:16:12 UTC  

As if the Constitution is a social contract

2018-08-05 18:18:25 UTC  

Imagine not living in America and not having basic rights

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/475729305918242838/Capture1.PNG

2018-08-05 18:18:27 UTC  

If we assume social contract theory then yeah the Constitution would be a social contract of some sort. There's nothing to suppose that the initial contract can't temporally spread out to be valid across generations

2018-08-05 18:18:31 UTC  

๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-08-05 18:19:51 UTC  

Who voted for it..it was brought by violence

2018-08-05 18:20:05 UTC  

Our current state was brought by violence

2018-08-05 18:20:12 UTC  

Locke was just wrong

2018-08-05 18:20:15 UTC  

Dont go to Unite the Right 2

2018-08-05 18:20:16 UTC  

btw

2018-08-05 18:20:17 UTC  

Hobbes was right

2018-08-05 18:20:20 UTC  

please

2018-08-05 18:20:21 UTC  

dont go

2018-08-05 18:20:25 UTC  

LOLOL

2018-08-05 18:20:27 UTC  

donโ€™t tell me what to do

2018-08-05 18:20:30 UTC  

I can't anyway

2018-08-05 18:20:38 UTC  

Have a vacation planned for then

2018-08-05 18:20:38 UTC  

You are making right wing look like retards

2018-08-05 18:20:42 UTC  

if you go

2018-08-05 18:20:46 UTC  
2018-08-05 18:21:02 UTC  

if i want to get in to street brawls well then ill get in to street brawls

2018-08-05 18:21:25 UTC  

Idiot

2018-08-05 18:21:36 UTC  

You will make everyone in your movement look bad

2018-08-05 18:22:12 UTC  

thatโ€™s why ill wear civnat and ancap stuff ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-08-05 18:22:38 UTC  

Well that's kinda the point. It's pretty unfeasible to get each new generation to verbally or consciously reaffirm the contract. People reaffirm it by inheriting, accepting, and living out its precepts. The whole point is that some violence must be done to ensure a functional society, if by violence you simply mean against one's will. But i dont accept that definition. Violence to me is conflict with ambiguity and there really is no ambiguity nor conflict when people implicitly accept the contract.