You could easily have a high IQ slacker be outperformed by a below average IQ workaholic

And being smart also makes people figure out how to slack off and do the minimum amount of work possible

IQ is useless if you aren't good at or don't want to do a certain task or job

No I mean in terms of your actual economic output

The possibilities are better with higher IQ

Yeah

So bringing in low IQ migrants is pretty much setting them up to fail

I was mostly arguing with comments before yours

because if the high IQ natives (euros or east asians) work as hard

Iq <:unequal:473954748517842954> overall success

they will always fail

that's why you see 2nd/3rd gen immigrants become shitty

the work ethic fades and they have a lower IQ

Plenty of dumbasses make it because of family/money/connections

yeah but

Plenty of brainiac workaholics are held back because they lack those things

you can argue connections are basically your clan having a high average iq

Everyone know's someone with a high IQ with less-than-good lives

like if your uncle is high iq you're probably not dumb

No

false

it's a collective benefit

It’s not

Though honestly I prefer tribalism

to individualism

iq doesnt get transfered

even though I want ancap

to others

Because Iq can be improved and destroyed

iq is stupid anyway

stupid discussion

Rather the genetic maximum potential of your IQ might correlate within a clan

If my uncle smoked weed and drank like hell he won’t keep it

Immigrants come to America to have a chance at getting a job, if they could get a job in their home country then they wouldn't come

so if you don't eat lead paint

it'd correlate

No

You can also improve it

@Scientia a better job*

not hard to get employed

By reading, exercising etc

hardest place to get employed is *developed* nations

because an employer takes on a lot of government baggage

good employment is another thing

but just getting a job is easier in a shithole

Because like in the UK you gotta pay that faggot's insurance, he could sue if you treat him badly, overtime regulations, check if he's not an illegal, etc.

Define good job vs shithole job

Doubt they do this in india

IQ can be passed on, but can't be determined. Intelligence has some genetic components, but it's definitely not always the same in familes

Like you could easily get a $1 per hour job in India yeah

minimum wage is so inflated in the US sometimes it's hard to even get that

like in 2008

I have some family members I would consider to be dumber than me and some I think are as smart as me

Yeah same

but if I look at my paternal line we're all generally above average

My Iq is 154

and maternal line we're all above average

not high

my IQ is 119 despite being in poverty while growing up with bad diet and bad exercise, my father drank and did drugs so his IQ dropped, but my grandfather on one side is an engineer, other is a prodigy computer scientist

But that's anecdotal

and more of a direct line

than uncle vs nephew

So I'm sure my father had an above average genetic potential in terms of IQ tbqh, because literally every male in the family has had that

I'm arguing that you should always want the genetic potential to be there, and with hispanics/blacks it simply isn't.

>when someone says you can’t tell anything about someone just from their skull

Average sub Saharan African IQ is 70

Nigerians/Indians are highly elite subsamples which WOULD work

Hispanic 85

but we don't take elite subsamples for most

yes

70 means like 50% of them are retarded

African American 76

from european standards

I heard african american was 85

mostly due to admixture

Europeans 100

I think diminishing returns hit though

Asian 105

and a 5 point difference isn't big

definitely nowhere near 85 vs 100

so that 5 point difference between E Asians and Whites is more negligible due to the diminishing returns than the 95 vs 100

The jungle doesn’t build intellectuals

It can however, build amazing survivalists

Which helped in Africa

Even Scandinavian hunter gatherer/farming would build intellectual folks because it requires long term planning and critical thinking to assess uses of limited resources

But there is intelligence that doesn't show up in IQ

European stable climate allowed for flourishing intellectualism

Same with Asian

for instance inuits are very good at remembering where to go and have different enlarged parts of their brain

but that's not tested by IQ nor really by the modern economy

Polynesians are better at breathing under water

I don't really think we should on an individual level assess people at their work place based on IQ, but for migrant groups we definitely should because the US Gov refuses to only take elite subsamples

Europeans/Asians will always be at an advantage in a modern, western society

like if we took the top 5% of mexicans this would not be an issue, but illegals are basically the bottom 20%

Europeans/Asians will always be at an advantage in a modern, western society

Because of high iq

Which is necessary

For western societies today

Most people misconstrue any argument for wanting high IQ to saying high IQ is the end all be all

Whites couldn’t survive in the African jungle

It's similar to stuff like bodybuilding

you have a genetic muscular potential

Vice Versa with Europe

but of course since no one works out

if you try hard you can be better than 95% of men probably

Obesity was only recorded in the 1870’s

Because people had agrarian jobs

and the economy functions off IQ primarily

In modern society yes

so taking these low IQ migrants is similar to taking people with low muscular potential and forcing them into a bodybuilding competition that decides their entire life

it's not fair

The dumb kid in 1700 could still plant seeds and farm

yeah

Today it’s different

The USA/Europe sets these migrants up to fail

Yeah

because they don't screen ones who are literally genetically unfit for western society

they're too fucking stupid

They could be happy average farmers in somalia

but they'll be retards in slums in america

That’s basically it

I feel bad for them even

but then you realize they're also leeches that hurt us

Their grandchildren might be slightly more accustomed, but not by much

basically by necessity

IQ is not a guarantee of anything

it is a prerequisite

It’s a check mark in society

yeah

Western society

If your IQ is below 90 you are simply fucked

I would require people to hit a certain level on the SAT because it would both screen foreign language and it correlates highly with IQ for people who do speak english

SAT is a good IQ test

it’s also an established test

correlates very well

the issue is you can study for it

so that's really what skews it

I don’t think it does

No like

I got nearly a perfect score on my SAT’s

I ofcourse did well on my ACT yeah

But that’s more on how much you prep

but I didn't have the ACT prep courses my fellow students did

I still got in the top 85%

There are certain tricks to those tests

with no studying

but no one ever taught me how to take it

I have a good example

I'm sure if I studied I could have gotten 99th

Take New York City’s SHSAT test

The nice thing about IQ tests is they're purposely made difficult to study for

and no one studies for them

lol mayb but statistically people score about what their IQ would predict

It’s for their best high schools

@skreee yeah my ACT basically correlated to 120 IQ and my IQ tests say 120

White and Asian kids tend to do better

On the SHSAT

if you look at income you get diminishing returns past 120 so I'm pretty happy

By a lot

More than IQ could take account for

that's due to studying

I had a cousin who went to a really good school in NYC

with affirmative action there was still only 5 black kids at her school

They don’t have the money/time to send their kids to prep for those tests

what like uni?

Whites and Asians will

The worst part imo is people that blame poverty for low IQ

when I grew up in poverty and know it's not really relevant besides eating lead and fetal alcohol syndrome

Poverty does not breed ignorance

It’s the opposite

Yes

thank you

Most poor people I meet have more legitimate world views than overeducated cunts

That’s dionegian cynicism

like for instance black southerners are supposedly more "prejudiced" while they interact with blacks more than liberals

Which I follow

they are far less prejudiced in reality because they actually interact with blacks/hispanics while midwestern/east coast/rich west coasters dont

At the end of the day, the Harvard kid will get the job even though he has half the skills of the kid who went to a local community school

Because of the NAME

@Da_Fish it's tribalism

We are stupid that way

sports and your schooling have replaced race and family as your tribe

that's why I hate professional sports

BRB

They replace what could be a very productive white collaboration

or even neighborhood unity

high school sports are ok I guess

because it's your city

but professional sports are fucked

i.e. France in the world cup

@Deleted User professional sports are a product of politics and regionalism

Look at constantinoples chariot racing

Used in politics immensely

Blues and Greens

Almost destroyed the empire

Nika Revolts

Wow so much _knowledge_

https://forward.com/fast-forward/406734/jewish-doctor-apologizes-for-white-nationalist-writings/

lol

They police their own thats for sure

People prefer Harvard because they are a credible institition with better educational value and qualifications than a community college.

The organization of accredited institition is actually very clever, not stupid.

It's a testament to human organization.

Not sure what you were trying to say but it was meaningless.

Oh yeah and also obesity has existed well before the 1870's lmao wtf is this hot take

Hippocrates, the father of medicine, fucking wrote about it.

Every time I look at this chat it's low IQ hot takes.

I'm scared to scroll up further.

Me too, I'm scared to scroll up and see what you said before

Obesity is definitely more prevalent

Probably a rarer disease in earlier times

But well-documented.

@Deleted User List my hot takes if you're gonna talk shit son.

Sad! 😦

Thia chat is full of _knowledge_

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<@&452955168099532800> what happened with hillary’s server shtick recently?

My job is to moderate, not answer questions.

Ok is there anyone who knows what exactly happened

I'm not getting paid enough, or at all, to do extra than my duties.

Do you get pais?

Paid

He said he isn't getting paid

also something interesting today

The Democratic Socialists of America announced they hit over 48,000 members

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