How many times do I have to explain this to you Anon?

I mean usually when right-wing faggots refer to socialism they're referring to Marxian socialism, which Mussolini was not as leader of Italy and only tangentially related to Marxian socialism through Sorel who if anyone knows anything about him knows he was radically different.

That's a whole other can of worms. Do you think Hitler was a socialist? The guy who privatized a lot of Weimar-era industries? Brought the word privatization into the mainstream lexicon?

At what point do you realize that every time the word socialist leaves your mouth you look like a fucking moron?

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@εïз irma εïз anon is a self proclaimed necon

I know, typical boomer understanding of politics.

They say shallow waters are clear. People who have a shallow understanding of these topics have a clear understanding of these topics.

not realizing trotskyist jews that fled during the "rootless cosmopolitan" purge in the USSR to become neoconservatism 🎊

look it has SOCIALIST in the name haha see nazis r socialist xdxdxd

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National Socialist was coined in a time where the Nazis were pandering shamelessly to the left out of desperation.

At that time they wanted to nationalize all industries, or they said they did anyways.

And as soon as they took power they did the exact opposite.

Hitler didn't even like the name at first either

but sure they're socialist 😤

25 Points, which if executed absolutely would have been state socialist, were basically abandoned.

Almost USSR-tier.

https://youtu.be/Lg-h1xqFsEU

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i miss the pre-Hitler DAP

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tbh, there are too many pagan larpers within the NatSocs

youre right

Yeah but there are plenty of pagans who are really serious about it.

>pagan

Perennial ideas of Indo-European universality.

Lot of that comes from esoteric Hitlerists in the middle of the 20th century and Evola.

As well as earlier folks like Guenon.

But you're just a boomer who knows 0 things.

@Doctor Anon he was, but he changed his stance when he became a nationalist

Paganism is a jewish concept

Not european

True europeans are christian

I'm going to chalk that up to a shitpost just because of how horribly incorrect it is.

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I'm a Catholic though.

so he's not completely wrong

🅱agan

Indo-Europeans were pagan.

Aka "Aryans"

Of which almost all Europeans are.

🅱agan Sympathizer

No I think paganism is pretty gay.

Pagans are atheists trying to forcefully apply a religious label to.themselves

A lot of the LARPers are yeah.

''No I think paganism is pretty gay.'' didn't I explain how Catholicism is a mix of paganism and Christianity

>implying they arent all larpers

But I'm personally familiar with a few well read pagans and they're all really serious about it. It's not a religion in the same sense as Christianity is.

Paganism is integrated into the spirit and animus of the world rather than a deity figure.

I think it was Chesterson that said Christianity animated paganism into a very real religious movement rather than a spiritual one it was previously.

Let me find the quote.

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Yes

that includes Catholics

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"The pagans of the real Roman Empire were nothing if not respectable. It is said that when Christ was born the cry went through the world that Pan was dead. The truth is that when Christ was born Pan for the first time began to stir in his grave. The pagan gods had become pure fables when Christianity gave them a new lease of life as devils. I venture to wager that if you found one man in such a society who seriously believed in the personal existence of Apollo, he was probably a Christian."

In other words paganism was spiritualist rather than religious until Christianity forced it to double down as a reactionary measure and really become a religion.

Kind of like the Taoist conception of Heaven as a "god" even though a Christian wouldn't recognize it conceptually as such.

This flexibility and belief in universality is why the Romans were able to syncretize almost every religion they encountered into their pantheon.

Because they were all seen as legitimate manifestations of the animus of the world.

Also the reason they were so hostile to Jews and Christians.

@εïз irma εïз Hitler wasnt a socialist, but he wasnt a free market absolutist either

No, but Nazi Germany was very much a private enterprise-driven economy with a high degree of business freedom.

And hardly a mega nanny state like people want to say it was.

He privatized everything in peace time

Social program expenditures were lower than America today.

It was Goering and especially Speer who mobilized industry for the war effort.

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But even then businesses were on the most part left alone.

Only businesses pertinent to the war were affected.

hitler was you middle man

your

he gases half the jews

and he affects half industry

was the holocaust exaggerated

He was the opposite of a middle man. That was what he ran on, being absolute and unwilling to compromise.

yes i think only 2 million died

not 6 gorillian

Wasnt the term "late stage capitalism" coined by a national socialist?

Grug think big nose grug lie about holobunga

No I'm pretty sure that was invented by Stalinists to justify them losing Germany and Italy to fascists.

But I'm like 25% sure.

Capitalism in decay was certainly used to justify that.

Stalin left the socialists in Germany out to dry because he said that Germany would collapse after they oppressed the proletariat under industrialists' watch.

But that was really just a parting shot.

well he left them because the ussr failed to conquer poland but lets not talk about that

"The term "late capitalism" was first used by Werner Sombart in his 1902 magnum opus Der Moderne Kapitalismus; Sombart divided capitalism into three stages: early capitalism; high capitalism, the heyday of capitalism; and late capitalism."

Never heard of this dude.

But he reflects Marx on this.

He's just categorizing it. Not original to him.

Just interesting that he coined the term

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Hello.

🅱elcome

I'm gonna check this place out. If I like it, I'll _attempt to_ make you all a banner, alright?

coolio

I'll look around and mull everything over for the night, and maybe talk a bit here, but for the most part just think and look, so goodnight all. Sleep well.