Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-08-10 02:50:43 UTC  

A lot of the LARPers are yeah.

2018-08-10 02:51:00 UTC  

''No I think paganism is pretty gay.'' didn't I explain how Catholicism is a mix of paganism and Christianity

2018-08-10 02:51:05 UTC  

>implying they arent all larpers

2018-08-10 02:51:06 UTC  

But I'm personally familiar with a few well read pagans and they're all really serious about it. It's not a religion in the same sense as Christianity is.

2018-08-10 02:51:44 UTC  

Paganism is integrated into the spirit and animus of the world rather than a deity figure.

2018-08-10 02:52:14 UTC  

I think it was Chesterson that said Christianity animated paganism into a very real religious movement rather than a spiritual one it was previously.

2018-08-10 02:52:19 UTC  

Let me find the quote.

2018-08-10 02:52:25 UTC  

🅱agans must 🅱e 🅱urnt at the S🅱ake

2018-08-10 02:52:32 UTC  

Yes

2018-08-10 02:52:37 UTC  

that includes Catholics

2018-08-10 02:52:55 UTC  

🅱eresy

2018-08-10 02:53:00 UTC  

v2 catholics*

2018-08-10 02:54:17 UTC  

"The pagans of the real Roman Empire were nothing if not respectable. It is said that when Christ was born the cry went through the world that Pan was dead. The truth is that when Christ was born Pan for the first time began to stir in his grave. The pagan gods had become pure fables when Christianity gave them a new lease of life as devils. I venture to wager that if you found one man in such a society who seriously believed in the personal existence of Apollo, he was probably a Christian."

2018-08-10 02:55:01 UTC  

In other words paganism was spiritualist rather than religious until Christianity forced it to double down as a reactionary measure and really become a religion.

2018-08-10 02:55:29 UTC  

Kind of like the Taoist conception of Heaven as a "god" even though a Christian wouldn't recognize it conceptually as such.

2018-08-10 02:56:38 UTC  

This flexibility and belief in universality is why the Romans were able to syncretize almost every religion they encountered into their pantheon.

2018-08-10 02:56:50 UTC  

Because they were all seen as legitimate manifestations of the animus of the world.

2018-08-10 02:57:02 UTC  

Also the reason they were so hostile to Jews and Christians.

2018-08-10 02:57:52 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз Hitler wasnt a socialist, but he wasnt a free market absolutist either

2018-08-10 02:58:20 UTC  

No, but Nazi Germany was very much a private enterprise-driven economy with a high degree of business freedom.

2018-08-10 02:58:34 UTC  

And hardly a mega nanny state like people want to say it was.

2018-08-10 02:58:43 UTC  

He privatized everything in peace time

2018-08-10 02:58:45 UTC  

Social program expenditures were lower than America today.

2018-08-10 02:59:32 UTC  

It was Goering and especially Speer who mobilized industry for the war effort.

2018-08-10 02:59:32 UTC  

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2018-08-10 02:59:42 UTC  

But even then businesses were on the most part left alone.

2018-08-10 02:59:52 UTC  

Only businesses pertinent to the war were affected.

2018-08-10 02:59:59 UTC  

hitler was you middle man

2018-08-10 03:00:03 UTC  

your

2018-08-10 03:00:19 UTC  

he gases half the jews

2018-08-10 03:00:33 UTC  

and he affects half industry

2018-08-10 03:00:34 UTC  

was the holocaust exaggerated

2018-08-10 03:00:36 UTC  

He was the opposite of a middle man. That was what he ran on, being absolute and unwilling to compromise.

2018-08-10 03:01:00 UTC  

yes i think only 2 million died

2018-08-10 03:01:08 UTC  

not 6 gorillian

2018-08-10 03:01:15 UTC  

Wasnt the term "late stage capitalism" coined by a national socialist?

2018-08-10 03:01:32 UTC  

Grug think big nose grug lie about holobunga

2018-08-10 03:01:38 UTC  

No I'm pretty sure that was invented by Stalinists to justify them losing Germany and Italy to fascists.

2018-08-10 03:01:46 UTC  

But I'm like 25% sure.

2018-08-10 03:01:56 UTC  

Capitalism in decay was certainly used to justify that.

2018-08-10 03:02:25 UTC  

Stalin left the socialists in Germany out to dry because he said that Germany would collapse after they oppressed the proletariat under industrialists' watch.