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It is dependent
It's not always bad, only in the spots where it's a risk
Tell me a time when it is good to split votes
It's always a bad idea to split votes.
Here???
no
It just doesn't pose a risk here.
it is still a stupid idea.
Do you see my point?
How, they both get sent to the general and no one on the left gets the seat
In this scenario that is the case, but there are many scenarios in which the democrat gets the seat at the start.
This is actually how we're gonna win Issa's old seat if that happens
All I am saying!
2 Rs, and a bunch of dems, that's a difference
Is let's not do this
That only works because it's in the primary.
We shouldn't just run purely 1 R everywhere
that wasn't my point.
And this is a primary, with a runoff election should no one hit 50% (which they won't)
I don't think it's a primary, I think it's a full blown runoff election.
And we're just trying to treat it as a primary
right?
No, because there's a bunch of candidates
It's not a runoff
it's technically a general election?
It's a "special election" but it's a sort of jungle type of deal
When they vote Democrats and Republicans will all be on one ballot?
And if someone gets 50% they win the seat?
If someone gets 50% they get the seat
So it's a general election.
If no one does, the top 2 candidates get to a runoff election
yes
by technicality
So it's not a primary
Thus my point being.
This across the board, is a bad idea, we shouldn't ram as many candidates into the general election as possible.
it resembles jungle primaries more than it resembles a general election
Why not 2 in this case?
this is the end of Dlimpfovich McPutin
It's not a jungle primary because someone wins a set if they get 50% of the vote
It has resemblance
I don't see why my notion is that far out there.
because of the fact that the history of this seat has had 2 Rs go to a runoff
If someone wins the primary we should get behind them even if we don't like them instead of having faithless candidates who stay on the ballet till the end.
but they haven't
This kind of action gives the democrats an advantage if they're more unified./
that's not how this election works
there's no primary
it's open season until a runoff happens
d!dab
Why can't we just avoid this type of stuff.
Splitting votes is bad period.
Sometimes it's a risk you take when there's not a chance of a democratic pickup?
fair?
It guarantees an R gets the seat in a runoff
d!dab
There is no reason to split your votes if there is a chance it will cost us the seat.
There is not a single chance of democratic pickup in this seat
Not one
I'd bet my tongue on it
I'm not
Hi not, I'm Dad!
Fucking
talking
@๐Boo-ton๐ that image is disgusting. lol
About this seat in particular
I said "across the board" and generally"
It sets absolutely 0 precedent
Many times.
nvm
Different strategies apply for different regions
I'm not going to be talking about how much we need southern pride in Oregon
Hi not going to be talking about how much we need southern pride in Oregon, I'm Dad!
Just forget it.
I don't see what is so crazy about my point
It's a no-brainer
You don't split your votes.
Period
if there is a chance the democrat can win the seat
we rally behind one person.
The seat literally has zero chance of a dem pickup, this is a formality
I'm not talknig about this seat
Hi not talknig about this seat, I'm Dad!
Why do you keep going back to this state seat?
This is about the seat though
Because that was the root of the conversation
What this whole thing stemmed from
I said "across the board" and generally" severalt imes.
I'm saying for the future.
Hi saying for the future., I'm Dad!
This bot is stupid.
you see how annoying this is?
๐ <:wojaktrump:422438927631384577>
Generally lying is bad too but if an ATF agent came to take my firearms away, then I'd have to make the exception
what
WHAT
And that's the thing, there's exceptions
<:hilldawg:422436466422185987> <:pinkwojak:422439817528344577>
Ok fine whatever
I'll go with it
There are exceptions
@๐Boo-ton๐ Why are you doing this LMFAO
But generally we shouldn't split our votes
This sets no precedent, it's just a small election in a deep red district
that was my argument the whole time
@๐Boo-ton๐ yeah really? xD
all the daily kos has conditioned him to like this stuff
Button Mash's brain has been fried since the Syrian missile strikes.
I dunno
I've reached a state of zen-like peace
I've come to terms with our timely demise
Or rather,
Anyways, let's see how the swing ends up
the uncertainty of everything at this point
The data suggests we won't know anything until October
that's pretty much the way most things go
we have to make the best of it
Well no,
we'll know how things will go as early as this summer
in the big grand congress showdown
I'm curious when these results are coming out.
Hi curious when these results are coming out., I'm Dad!
>20 point swing occurs
what do you mean grand congress showdown
<:wojaktrump:422438927631384577>
When Drumpf makes his big legislative push
In other words,
his last, dying gasp of political capital
What date, I thought the big budget was on 7/30 wasn't it?
Right
or 9/30, sorry
>Democract wins only 21% of the vote in 2016
If they flip this, then yikes
nah
<:pinkwojak:422439817528344577>
Watch them do it.
I bet my left nut that won't happen
The power of Soros
The Democrat just flipped the district.
"no one wants your left nut" - RS
AAAAAAA
ahahha
I knew it.
did he really
I told you it was gunna happen.
(D): 51% R1: 27% R2: 22%
over 50% or are you punkin
source
damn
lol button keeps screaming and it gets deleted
Nah, I'm messing with you.
It's like the server is playing wack-a-mole
: )
Oh
It was worth it however.
yeah it was funny
Ew
you play EU4
I'm laughing my ass off here.
Hi laughing my ass off here., I'm Dad!
Just have it open in the background.
Hearts of Iron III
is the way to go.
>inb4 the democrat wins 100% of the vote and Button Mash jumps into the Pacific Ocean from Golden Gate Bridge.
<:pinkwojak:422439817528344577> Headlines: _Democrats pull off an unprecedented upset in a rural Texan district Trump won by double digits_
Yeah
I'd go change my registered party tomorrow if that happened.
maybe I should become an independent.
so the polsters would call me
so I'd have a friend >.>
(sarcasm)
American Independent Party
You're
gay
America First Party
the hero we needed
I know one better
It's getting later in the day for Texas. Surprising results haven't come out yet.
Oops
wait
*enormous Democratic swing happens*
''This is what happens when you stray from the path of True Conservatism''
that's who we need
@๐Boo-ton๐ He would totally say that though
"This is the reaction against Trump"
Actually not would
he WILL
I don't watch his podcast anymore but I've no doubt that's what he's saying.
He doesn't like Trump
He didn't even vote for him.
That's right.
das rite!
He said he would've voted David French if he continued to the general election.
"Way to cost us a totally winnable seat, Trump"
He said that?
That's right.
Who the hell is DAvid French
In mid-2016.
The National Review Neocon with a black son
He was selected by Bill Kristol and the Neocon Crew to run as an independent against Trump.
^
But French backed out after a week of having announced him running.
undoubtedly would have cost Trump the election.
but shapiro didn't care
he *KNEW* clinton would win
I can't believe I used to watch Shapiro.
even back in mid 2016 when I was a vociferous supporter of his, that made me twitch.
Yeah I was a massive supporter of his then too.
Also Louder with Crowder
rofl
yeah, unfortunately.
thankfully i've moved on to greener pastures ideologically
ones far less monopolised by the alt-lite and status quo conservatism.
I dunno when I changed my mind on Shapiro, I have to think back. But Crowder it was after that "change my mind" he did on "socialism is immoral" and the first kid that sat down with him was a total national socialist from /pol/ and just wrecked Crowder. Steven got so defensive and started getting up in his face and I was like "Whoa, Crowder is more aggressive to this kid than leftists."
And yeah good for you.
I still can't believe I was such mopey conservative, I used to take pride in the fact I was a Neoconservative
>When Neocon Don cuts aid to enemies of Israel
@๐Boo-ton๐ tbh they should just cut aid to them all.
"enemies" and "allies"
The Israel Lobby, gentlemen. A much-needed read in shaping your foreign policy point of view.
Yeah you posted something on your discord about it right?
๐ | **zakattack04 leveled up!**
A new article
I haven't read it yet but I want to
I haven't taken the redpill on the jews yet.
Without a comprehensive understanding of the history of the region, the geostrategic role local commodities/pipelines play (oil, gas, water), sectarian conflicts between Shia and Sunni, the market share of Saudi oil and Russian natural gas and the economic profiles of different regions of the Middle East, one cannot hope for a balanced and complete perspective of how to form a pro-American package of policies on the region.
I always shied away from taking ANY position on foreign policy given its multi-faceted nature.
Political moderation is the default political redoubt for the blissfully uninformed.
@zakattack04 yep. One of our members made a stellar few articles regarding Trumponomics, the ME conflict and its relation to pipelines and a few others.
Flash from the past:
I still hate how CNN made this into a megahit.
I didn't watch CNN so I didn't get the joke.
Fancy celebrating a MEXICAN holiday in AMERICA.
True conquest.
Imagine celebrating the anniversary of Hitler's birth as a Pole.
Oh come now, nativist vermin,
don't you like burritos
It was actually introduced as a federal holiday partially due to anti-French sentiment over the French opposition to the War in Iraq.
Which ruined the "Coalition of the Willing" optics
Hey tbh
Del Taco is amazing.
siding with invaders to own those who oppose wars for israel
But you guys don't have it
because you're not <@&414473406264639488> master race
if only it was healthy :(
yeah but we got publix you cheeky bugger
Sounds lame
Who wants to eat at a place called publix
In Flordia too
Where it's too humid.
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