now, there's still quite a long time until the primaries

I wouldn't be surprised if we find out about more celebrity candidates

I know it's basically suicide in that state, but it's so damn big is the thing

I heard Caitlyn Jenner is running for the GOP here

you'd think there'd be someone, like a James Woods or something that'd put their hat in the ring

s/he's still under potential candidates is the thing

I'll put him in then just to have someone I guess

lel

But there's virtually no way a non-Democrat is winning here in the Senate

it's possible that Feinstein gets primaried tho

I know, but you always want to be sure, after Moore, nothing can be certain

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 you live in Cali ?

yep

there's virtually no way, but that doesn't mean there's absolutely no way

LOT of vulnerable districts this season

5-10 districts could be lost here alone

if that happens, hopefully we make up for it by picking up seats in the rust belt

and areas in the midwest / south that are held by weak Democrat incumbents

this is why we need strict federal voter ID, the stuff people can get away with in cali's voting system is insane

what area of California do you live in ? Here in NYC there are quite a few Trump supporters if you look for them, but they're just drowned out by the rest

from what I can tell, many Democrat voters aren't even the "reeee" type

they're just used to voting for the D candidate because they're minorities who've been doing that for decades

what's it like politically over there in California ?

over here, the 'reeeee' types tend to be white transplants

it's like that a lot up in New England, lot of union type voting for Ds

hopefully one of these days if the GOP ends up being more like a worker's party like Trump's trying to make it, there'll be a few flips

I wonder how many voters Trump could have flipped if he campaigned in and targeted certain demographics in New England, the urban northeast, college students, the west coast, other blue areas

I live in Orange county

this used to be a Republican stronghold

it might not have been worth the effort, but it's definitely possible to flip voters from D to R

Thoughts on Austin Petersen running for MO Senate?

overrated

open borders are a massive deal breaker

Missouri is the best state to flip this year

And John James for MI Senate?

he's the best option, but Michigan's not going red

it could be competitive in theory

I think we need to prioritize winnability over anything else

definitely

it's better to have an R who can be influenced to be less of a cuck after they won

right, we need make each state as competitive as humanly possible

than a D who can't be influenced

if they have an anti immigration position, I think that's really the only metric to care about

my goal is to have RAISE passed

Bannon's strategy of warring against establishment cucks should have started in Trump's 2nd term, not his 1st

yeah, Flake and Corker have really been the only ones who have posed an issue legislatively who are up this year, looking at Alabama, that should've never been lost

Going after Strange was foolish, he voted for Trump's agenda 98% of the time

his goal was to take out McConnell, but by just pushing Moore into the nomination and abandoning the campaign after the allegations, he's given McConnell more clout than he could've ever imagined

now we're asking the question "is this guy going to be a risk" after what happened because of Bannon

the thing is, I wonder how many primary voters flipped from Strange to Moore after Bannon's endorsement

does Bannon really hold that much clout among GOP primary voters?

another thing, bringing the guy from Blackwater to run in Wyoming is such a ridiculous idea, what has he even done in the state

he's just someone who worked for Breitbart

and became a prominent figure in the Trump administration after Trump won, but...I don't see how that translates to political clout among voters

the thing is, a lot of people had it in their heads that he was the voice behind MAGA, and that he was what won the campaign

I think Moore might have won the primary regardless

oh look at that

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"a lot of people had it in their heads that he was the voice behind MAGA, and that he was what won the campaign"

I think he helped with the "grab her by the pussy" allegations by giving the idea to bring Bill Clinton's accusers but wasn't he in support of Cruz during the primaries?

I think that idea is pushed by the media

I'm not sure how many GOP primary voters would vote for someone in the primary just because Bannon endorsed them

@Nuke what state are you from

I think that Trump's endorsement would've been enough to win Strange the primary, but the thing is at the time people had the idea that Bannon was a MAGA agent working outside the White House on Trump's command

Moore was popular among conservatives in Alabama for quite some time

He was known for his religious rulings as a judge for decades,

Bannon or not, he was always likely to win the primary

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 yeah, I think I might have heard of Moore years ago back when that 10 Commandment thing was in the news

there's no real way of knowing now I guess

he definitely shouldn't have watched football during that last weekend though

God, I hope another scandal doesn't break out in the near future

here's something very important to keep in mind: people on /pol/ and other right wing spaces on the Internet ....are NOT the same thing as GOP voters

during those last few days of the presidential campaign, Trump was fucking grinding it with those rallies, 4 states in a day, that's the mentality we need

there are many, many GOP voters who are old people who don't even know how to use the Internet that well

There are two types of GOP voters,

small town voters without college degrees, and college-educated voters in the suburbs

people from /pol/ would have been fine voting for Moore, but some old lady getting her news from local talk radio (which apparently railed hard against Moore), would have voted write-in or abstained

Trump is popular amongst the first, but not the other, which poses trouble for the midterms

the thing is, people aren't voting for Trump in the midterms

I'd argue that people are overemphasizing it as a "referendum on Trump"

I thought that too, but,

The rich who live in the suburbs watching Fox the whole time definitely stayed home in AL

no question

in the Virginia gubertorial race,

2 to 1 voters say they voted for Northam to show opposition to Trump

in New Jersey, it was 3 to 1

sauce ?

those people probably would have voted for Northam regardless

and when you interview them as they walk out the polls, then ask them "is showing opposition against Trump a reason" , they could easily say 'yes'

but the thing is, they would have voted for the D candidate anyway

Jill Vogel, the Trump candidate in the Lieutenant Governor race, got around the same percentage as Trump

while Gillespie, who shunned Trump, got less

I mean, its Virginia, one of the more blue states.

not by much though

also, look at this shift from 2016 to 2017

both from Virginia btw

not a big difference