#creation-vs-evolution (Discord ID: 484515915069784085) in The Ice Wall, page 10

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2018-10-07 18:31:38 UTC

like everyone else

2018-10-07 18:32:07 UTC

well to behonest i wouldnt mind limbo

2018-10-07 18:32:32 UTC

proberbly cant do fun sruff in heaven

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2018-10-07 18:32:39 UTC

thoes kinds of fun stuff

2018-10-07 18:33:03 UTC

eh Limbo is boring

2018-10-07 18:33:13 UTC

it's literally neither here, nor there

2018-10-07 18:33:23 UTC

hell might be better

2018-10-07 18:34:22 UTC

well im a sadist so either way im enjoying all three

2018-10-07 18:36:34 UTC

how nice

2018-10-07 19:03:14 UTC

@king_thomas The Pope believes you go to Heaven. In honesty, the theology of Christianity isn't as dependent upon Heaven & Hell as it's made out to be.

2018-10-07 19:03:51 UTC

no i dont care about the theology of christianity

2018-10-07 19:04:00 UTC

i just want to nkow weather i would go to heaven

2018-10-07 19:04:25 UTC

You can understand why actually answering that question necessitates discussing theology*

2018-10-07 19:05:54 UTC

i nkow

2018-10-07 19:10:35 UTC


2018-10-07 19:10:47 UTC

Well I don't really want to go over that much

2018-10-07 19:11:02 UTC

Basically, it's up for grabs. Lots of different people believe different things.

2018-10-07 19:11:20 UTC

Usually I hear something along the lines of if you repent God'll let you in.

2018-10-07 19:19:39 UTC

i don't really believe in heaven and hell tbh

2018-10-07 19:44:24 UTC


2018-10-07 19:44:39 UTC

except it's just "I don't believe in heaven and hell tbh" for me

2018-10-08 16:33:01 UTC

Sadly and quite tragically those that have not met the true CHRIST will explore "Religion" and find themselves inspecting where the majority lies. Simply stated, there may be many followers of The Catholic Church, but "many" does not indicate truth or validation of that "Religion". The Catholic Church does not know or preach the true Gospel!

2018-10-08 19:19:19 UTC

Whilst I belive in god , I don't follow the preaching of some book or priest

2018-10-08 19:19:54 UTC

I call my self atheist beacouse I'm not anti god , I'm anti theist

2018-10-08 19:20:13 UTC

( :3 rhymes a wee bit )

2018-10-08 19:25:31 UTC

That's not what Atheism is.

2018-10-08 19:25:48 UTC

Futhermore, your premise doesn't preclude the premises of theism.

2018-10-08 19:40:16 UTC

Most these cathic "high" tier priests have been indoctrinated into conceptual justifications that belittle many sins/aspects of reality. In short symbolically they say god/Christ etc but lucifirians reference Satan as yahwey (reverse) so in essence they worship Satan and all praise in the name of the one

2018-10-08 21:11:13 UTC


2018-10-08 21:11:24 UTC

Stands for anti theist

2018-10-08 21:11:36 UTC

It means what I want it to mean

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2018-10-08 21:12:49 UTC

its a-thiest

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2018-10-08 21:13:24 UTC

Wait no I'm wrong

2018-10-08 21:13:28 UTC

I'm a theist

2018-10-08 21:13:42 UTC

Not athiest a theist

2018-10-08 21:13:59 UTC

Thought theist meant religion not god

2018-10-08 21:14:50 UTC

Atheist as in apolitical

2018-10-08 21:14:56 UTC

Not anti but agnostic of

2018-10-08 21:15:00 UTC

Neutral towards

2018-10-09 18:52:57 UTC


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2018-10-09 19:15:13 UTC

ops, total bullshit

2018-10-09 19:16:56 UTC

the number of jews in euope in eareas under nazi control was 9.7 million

2018-10-09 19:18:40 UTC

Site that source dude don't just make shit up

2018-10-09 19:21:44 UTC

Sure. While I get it, why don't you sight your source for.numbers of Jews in Europe too

2018-10-09 19:23:14 UTC

Read the document

2018-10-09 19:23:22 UTC

its there

2018-10-09 19:23:26 UTC

https://www.bpb.de/fsd/centropa/ermordete_juden_nach_land.php, next to the name of the map it has all the sources

2018-10-09 19:23:42 UTC

and, those sources are all about the application process

2018-10-09 19:24:01 UTC

Thanks I'll give it a glance

2018-10-09 19:24:17 UTC

do they list numbers of jews in Europe in the actually acts?

2018-10-09 19:25:40 UTC

They list the census yes

2018-10-09 19:26:18 UTC

Not the arbitrary number made up for symbolic value

2018-10-09 19:27:22 UTC

I take it you have a dog in that fight? IDF?

2018-10-09 19:28:18 UTC

no, i hate people who make bullshit claims about history

2018-10-09 19:29:09 UTC

Aww that's cute

2018-10-09 19:29:58 UTC

oh god, there was this one person who called me a Zionist, just because i said being a Holocaust-denier is pretty distasteful.

2018-10-09 19:30:39 UTC

Yea well there does need to be major revisionist scrutinizing it.

2018-10-09 19:31:41 UTC

i have to say, i will continue to look for the actually Acts, but i am highly sceptical they have the prewar population of europe in them

2018-10-09 19:32:01 UTC

what Acts?

2018-10-09 19:32:21 UTC

in thhe picture

2018-10-09 19:32:44 UTC

like the FCA?

2018-10-09 19:32:47 UTC

The people who run the museum at dachou even admittedly changed there eatimates from 3 million to 1 million so who's to say that number is even acurate

2018-10-09 19:33:34 UTC

Keep doing your own research though bud, u will get there.

2018-10-09 19:34:13 UTC

so you're pro-Palestine @Deleted User?

2018-10-09 19:34:30 UTC


2018-10-09 19:34:39 UTC

well that's nice

2018-10-09 19:34:59 UTC

@Deleted User can you cite your source about the estimate revision?

2018-10-09 19:35:02 UTC

i put to you like this, i dont think Israel shouldnt ahve been a country, but now its a bit late

2018-10-09 19:35:25 UTC

nah israel should've been a country alright

2018-10-09 19:35:34 UTC

its there in the image @The18thDoctor

2018-10-09 19:35:42 UTC

but it misused its privilege and closeness to the US and the West

2018-10-09 19:36:14 UTC

β€œThe people who run the museum at dachou even admittedly changed there eatimates from 3 million to 1 million so who's to say that number is even acurate” Can you cite your source for this? That’s what I meant.

2018-10-09 19:36:40 UTC

I think it would of made more sense for poland to have giving them a territory, but I understand why Rothschild wanted Jerusalem

2018-10-09 19:37:02 UTC

why Poland?

2018-10-09 19:37:17 UTC

Give me a sec to pull that up @The18thDoctor

2018-10-09 19:37:19 UTC

why not, you know Germany

2018-10-09 19:37:19 UTC

well Poland is where Auschwitz happened right?

2018-10-09 19:37:35 UTC

Because poland declared war on germany

2018-10-09 19:37:51 UTC

After Germany attacked them

2018-10-09 19:38:02 UTC

They started the message they should have cleaned up there own Blondy nose

2018-10-09 19:38:09 UTC

ye Germany were the ones who invaded Poland

2018-10-09 19:38:46 UTC

or did germany just happen to have a massive army ready to invade Poland and hope France/GB wouldnt attack them

2018-10-09 19:39:08 UTC

There were multiple factors I'm sure but I wasn't there

2018-10-09 19:39:18 UTC

Germany attacked Poland

2018-10-09 19:39:22 UTC

its pretty simple

2018-10-09 19:41:47 UTC

Poland wasn't innocent dude

2018-10-09 19:41:58 UTC

did i say Poland did nothing wrong?

2018-10-09 19:41:59 UTC

its never simple

2018-10-09 19:42:12 UTC

no, i said Germany attaacked Poland first

2018-10-09 19:44:18 UTC

Germany had planned to attacked Poland, it wasnt a spur of the momment thing

2018-10-09 19:46:17 UTC

@The18thDoctor in 1988 the site at Auschwitz lowered there figure from 4 million to 1 million not docou i was mistake about the camp. Ronald Hilbur professor of university of Vermont considered to be a major figure in holocaust historians conceed the 6 million figure is based upon rude calculations only highly dubious.

2018-10-09 19:47:57 UTC

Poland has a part in killing millions of people during the ukrane famine and the bolshivics revolution dude, there was a reason germany moved so fast against them, they were not just on hey let's go pick on polish jews. There were many things that happened to lead to that point

2018-10-09 19:48:24 UTC

i never said Germany attacked Poland to kill the jews

2018-10-09 19:48:51 UTC

And neither of us could say what the intentions really was

2018-10-09 19:48:56 UTC


2018-10-09 19:48:58 UTC

we can

2018-10-09 19:49:12 UTC

wanted the farm land

2018-10-09 19:49:27 UTC

we can only surmise based on what us considered "factual" history written by the people who own those publications

2018-10-09 19:49:52 UTC

or, look at Mein Kompf and see that Hitler wanted living space in Eastern Europe

2018-10-09 19:50:04 UTC

Your making a grave assumption to believe it was just because they wanted farm lands

2018-10-09 19:50:44 UTC

Hitler wasnt calling all the shots dude he was a puppet figure head like most leaders

2018-10-09 19:50:51 UTC

and recapture lost territory from ww1

2018-10-09 19:51:06 UTC

The fuhrer was very much in charge

2018-10-09 19:51:07 UTC

*looks at Danzig*

2018-10-09 19:51:08 UTC

I agree that may have been a legitimate reason

2018-10-09 19:51:23 UTC

but there is always ulterier motives

2018-10-09 19:51:50 UTC

obviouly there were more then the 2 i said, those are just probably the 2 biggest

2018-10-09 19:52:28 UTC

fyi, the Germans did start to move poles out of Poland and resettle the land with germans

2018-10-09 19:53:14 UTC

I'm sure they did, it was going to be a major staying point to invade russia

2018-10-09 19:53:33 UTC

And tactically would of made sense

2018-10-09 19:53:47 UTC

so, i am not really making assumtions, i do have thins to back up what i said

2018-10-09 19:53:59 UTC

I think were moving very far off topic tho

2018-10-09 19:54:17 UTC

you guys with the 5 I?

2018-10-09 19:54:52 UTC


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2018-10-09 19:56:13 UTC

excuse me?

2018-10-09 19:57:11 UTC

Dissemination of information

2018-10-09 19:57:21 UTC

why would i tell you if i was

2018-10-09 19:57:23 UTC

the paid governments internet trolls

2018-10-09 19:57:29 UTC

don't play dumb

2018-10-09 19:58:09 UTC

You wouldn't but I can judge your reaponces after being brought to light

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2018-10-09 20:01:31 UTC

It is quite interesting I agree

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2018-10-09 20:06:54 UTC

that last one

2018-10-09 20:07:36 UTC


2018-10-09 20:07:51 UTC

Sometimes political humor can say more then anything else.

2018-10-09 20:08:03 UTC

sometimes it is just funny

2018-10-09 20:09:04 UTC

Those are certainly something

2018-10-09 20:11:23 UTC

Ok "3rd world subhumans"? Wtf

2018-10-09 20:12:40 UTC

Explains why the elite believe the poorest national should be tagged first for depopulation

2018-10-09 20:15:07 UTC

*looks at India*

2018-10-09 20:15:16 UTC

You're on some whole other level wow, you don't even try to hide the Jewish thing like other FE people

2018-10-09 20:18:58 UTC

I know I'm probs insensitive, and I don't want to come off as hate, I don't hate jewish people, my problem is with the Zionist incontrol of the government and how it treats the Palestinian people. I'm not a hateful person I just don't stand for bullys

2018-10-09 20:20:26 UTC

Yeah I'm not a fan of Israel but I don't buy into the idea that Jewish people are part of some grand conspiracy and that the holocaust was a hoax

2018-10-09 20:21:21 UTC

Not not jewish people in whole

2018-10-09 20:21:43 UTC

most jewish people know what the Zionist are doing and are completely against it

2018-10-09 20:26:34 UTC

Yea and 90% of people don't even realize what the word holocaust actually means, it boggles the mind sometimes to see how asleep people are

2018-10-09 20:51:38 UTC

isn't holocaust the Jewish sacrifice?

2018-10-09 20:55:06 UTC

But language changes and it has a new meaning

2018-10-09 20:55:36 UTC

Keep digging, thats the definition they want you to believe it means

2018-10-09 20:56:02 UTC

If it is a definition everyone uses, GUESS WHAT, it now also means that too

2018-10-09 20:56:42 UTC

Language is for communication, if everyone agrees on a new meaning of a word, it has that meaning now. Regardless of the past meaning

2018-10-09 21:02:36 UTC

destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war.
"a nuclear holocaust"
synonyms: cataclysm, disaster, catastrophe; More
a Jewish sacrificial offering that is burned completely on an altar.

2018-10-09 23:50:07 UTC

Dig deeper guys lol start looking into the root word meaningless don't just judegoole it πŸ˜…

2018-10-09 23:51:46 UTC

what a word use to mean doesnt mean anything

2018-10-09 23:52:45 UTC

the only time old meanings matter is when you are reading old documents

2018-10-10 00:14:28 UTC

It means death destruction by fire basically. I don’t know the exact etymology of how it became used for the mass murder by Hitler in the 1930s and 40s.

2018-10-10 01:30:43 UTC

@HaloNest^2 Good work mate.

2018-10-10 07:57:51 UTC
2018-10-10 07:58:00 UTC

Just a fun side project

2018-10-10 08:00:32 UTC

@Deleted User what is your point

2018-10-10 08:00:46 UTC

You clearly have no idea of how words are formed

2018-10-13 14:12:17 UTC

This channel is used for religion debate only.

2018-10-23 04:11:42 UTC

Genisis 1:6 is pretty straight forward especially when you translate the word firmament ..
.the shape is referenced many times never as a ball ......although the word ball is used once in the bible it's only used to describe a toy ... the only time it's been described as what everyone thinks is a ball is when the bible say the he rest his feet on the circle of the earth ...the only time there are parables is when it is said "I shall speak a parrable" and the only thing concealed was in the book of revalation until the veil is lifted if the bible is of god then why would you think you had to jump through hoops to understand a god that wants you more than you want your own salvation or safety. ...gods straight forward ...i always thought like maybe flat earth was like a big deception but that's because I wanted so bad to be right that's usually when we find out we are wrong ...

2018-10-24 01:05:59 UTC

gen 1:6 has multiple translations, only a few use the word firmament

2018-10-24 07:04:09 UTC

Ya the original hebrew manuscripts ....

2018-10-24 07:05:32 UTC

I'd rather have the original translations than the current ones that were most likely constrewed with words to confuse context ...gods very straight forward

2018-10-28 09:46:35 UTC

most of the original translations of the English bible aren't really the greatest, they've poorly translated which makes it difficult to find any properly translated verses

2018-10-28 09:47:44 UTC

John Wycliffe didn't even know all the languages within the original bible

2018-10-28 09:48:39 UTC

on the other hand, William Tyndale got two of the 3 languages in the bible translated

2018-10-28 09:49:24 UTC

well, 4 languages mainly

2018-10-28 09:49:39 UTC

there's a few others, however, he was only able to do 2

2018-10-28 09:55:44 UTC

unless you're fluent in Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew, you can't really get the correct translations

2018-10-29 01:44:33 UTC

Atheist have a profane understanding of the bible and a hatred for the landlord that i believe stems from their life problems or history

2018-10-29 17:53:50 UTC

Theists have a superiority complex and believe they are the center of the universe.

2018-10-29 17:54:10 UTC

This stems from their hurt ego and life problems making them feel bad.

2018-10-29 17:55:00 UTC

See how ineffective this is?

2018-10-29 19:41:38 UTC

No i dont

2018-10-29 19:42:22 UTC

Do you see more theists attacking atheists or Vise versa?

2018-10-29 19:42:45 UTC

Neither, really. I see large numbers of both.

2018-10-29 19:43:20 UTC

I haven't specifically counted every single person in this battle, but I suspect the numbers are rather even, as the conflict hasn't been resolved in all of human history.

2018-10-29 19:43:28 UTC

I guess im speaking mainly from experience here, online, particularly places like youtube or discord.

2018-10-29 19:45:38 UTC

For instance, i know a Christian flat earther on youtube that has had a few hardcore atheist constantly harrass him. When you goto their youtube channels, you don't see anyone harrassing them.

2018-10-29 19:47:23 UTC

I see flat earth discords constantly being targeted by atheists, but ive never really heard of or seen a flat Earther targeting a atheist discord (i dont even know of any atheist discords) lol

2018-10-29 19:48:00 UTC

And I have seen several theists who constantly harass some atheist Youtubers. As for Discord, there are a couple flat earthers I know that have been going and practically trolling on several round-Earth discord servers.

2018-10-29 19:48:10 UTC

"Nothing" isnt very interesting i guess

2018-10-29 19:50:59 UTC

There is a youtuber authentic intent. He does flat earth steet activism. Ive watched an atheist youtuber find him on the steets and confront him. Seemed like borderline stalking to me.

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2018-10-31 18:27:24 UTC

he's brilliant

2018-10-31 18:27:28 UTC

to be honest

2018-10-31 22:34:54 UTC

can we all agree the bible isnt a credible scourse ?

2018-10-31 23:43:42 UTC

We can

2018-10-31 23:43:58 UTC

But a lot of people on this server can’t

2018-11-01 00:35:59 UTC

We can (2)

2018-11-04 15:50:17 UTC

Can we all agree atheists dont have jack shit to refer too

2018-11-04 15:50:55 UTC

Can we agree the atheists throw away 2000 years of western history because of their weird hatred for god

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2018-11-04 22:48:50 UTC

I'm not sure

2018-11-04 22:49:03 UTC

I'm not even sure you understand what atheist means

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2018-11-04 22:49:24 UTC

privative a and theist

2018-11-04 22:49:35 UTC

theist comes from greek theos, God

2018-11-04 22:50:33 UTC

so an atheist doesn't necessairly hate God, an ahteist is convinced that a God doesn't exist

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2018-11-04 22:50:55 UTC

Atheism is a belief system

2018-11-04 22:51:04 UTC

I think the strongest belief system

2018-11-04 22:51:07 UTC

somewhat correct

2018-11-04 22:51:10 UTC

And most rare

2018-11-04 22:51:41 UTC

I just think you cant have order out of chaos

2018-11-04 22:51:49 UTC

The big bang is chaos

2018-11-04 22:51:57 UTC

hmm not really

2018-11-04 22:52:02 UTC

Abiogenesis is chaos into order

2018-11-04 22:52:14 UTC

Evolution is chaos into order

2018-11-04 22:52:20 UTC

I disagree

2018-11-04 22:52:44 UTC

Without abiogenesis you dont even have evolution

2018-11-04 22:52:53 UTC

I'm not sure about that

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2018-11-04 22:53:06 UTC

Its physics

2018-11-04 22:53:11 UTC

not sure either

2018-11-04 22:53:33 UTC

I have to go anyway

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2018-11-05 21:45:16 UTC

Chaos exists as the basic form of nature

2018-11-05 21:47:11 UTC

Fractals, one of the main naturally forming designs, is pure chaos. So much so than from the outside it lookds like order.

2018-11-05 21:47:56 UTC

Also, I dont think you know what entropy is and what it entails. I suggest @Citizen Z that you research the mathematics and physics involved in entropy.

2018-11-05 21:48:58 UTC

Also, and in the spirit of being able to answer your response, idk when Ill see it (if you do answer that is), so you might also want to PM your answer to me. Thx.

2018-11-06 00:13:20 UTC

Gradual decline into disorder

2018-11-06 00:13:43 UTC

You dont get order from chaos

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2018-11-06 01:39:49 UTC

Order out of Chaos, the credo of 33rd degree Freemasons, etc. refers to the powers that be carrying out certain chaotic plans (crisis and crisis hoaxes, war, etc.) to take away land / money / privileges / rights / freedoms and thus gaining control (or order) from their perspective. Hegelian dialectic.

2018-11-06 01:42:55 UTC

fractals aren't chaos... they are intelligent design :3

2018-11-06 01:43:37 UTC

remember numbers / symbols and languages are the magick used to confuse and control people :3

2018-11-06 04:33:14 UTC

@Mr Orb ☭ and stop bringing your naysaying bullshit here. This is a conspiracy server. If you have something to disagree with thats fine but dont worrie about what others do here. You need to prove government and media tell us the truth and thats an uphill battle for you

2018-11-06 04:34:04 UTC

I suggest you show me what youre talking about

2018-11-06 04:34:34 UTC

@Seeker of Truth interesting

2018-11-06 04:36:15 UTC

it is important to look at things from different views points and consider how pieces of the puzzle can possibly fit together :3

2018-11-06 09:52:47 UTC

@Citizen Z Entropy: "a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system." Additionally, entropy always increases, theres no physical way of halting its increase without knowing current real world astronomy. It is a truly fascinating concept that ties in the expansion of the universe and can be traced all the way back to the big bang.

2018-11-06 09:53:09 UTC

The answer to reality is usually the most simple one.

2018-11-06 09:59:40 UTC

When challenging the world, be prepared to be challenged back. Keep that in mind.

2018-11-06 13:18:46 UTC

Thsts the biggest line of bs ive heard im a while

2018-11-06 13:20:35 UTC

Of course im challenging the world. Its a mess

2018-11-06 20:39:01 UTC

you could actually tell us why you think that's bullshit

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2018-11-06 22:04:45 UTC

The entire world thinks as you?

2018-11-06 22:04:55 UTC

You are both full of of it

2018-11-06 22:05:04 UTC

Appealing to popularity

2018-11-07 01:00:38 UTC

I’m afraid we’re dealing with libtards Citizen. Most of which like to abuse social programs that hard working people like us pay for. Blood sucking scum...

2018-11-07 12:28:20 UTC

Hows that even logical? Were asking for his arguments as to why he thinks theyre bullshit. No need for name calling here @The Gwench @Citizen Z

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