and law

terms like slave and servant were mixed

I'd call the police on you

😂

we're not barbarians from 2000 years ago

you cant have a slave in the US everyday

hold on

some would call slaves servants

are you saying slavery is okay

some servants were slaves

a paided servent is differnt from a slave

no im not saying its okay

servent is a position

slave is a peice of property

Actually slavery is still legal in the US prison system *stay* *woke*

shut it nerd

then whats up with "what bothers you about buying slaves?"

Look I heard it in a rap song and I need to bring it up everytime @DrPeper

its aquestion meant to gather more understanding

wtf

ahhahaha

hhahahaa

its pretty obvious why would anyone be against buying slaves

its wrong

yeah more understnding of how big your pocket book can get by profiting off the forced imprisionment of others 😂

i go into jails to minister not to mistreat

you go to jail for having slaves

this is second impressive mental gymnastics ive seen after derek

i share the word of God with inmates who want to know about Jesus

cool

Ironically Christmas Everyday is being the devil's advocate in this situation

thats for that off topic info you already shared

thanks

someone said i mistreat the inmates or something

?

i was redefining my position

we are talking about slaves

you know, the topic of the coversation

slaves seems to be the ongoing theme

it is an example we used

of how the bible can be used to support two contradictory sides

its pretty concerning how your reply to "has a verse telling ppl to buy slaves" was "whats bothers u about buying slaves"

if you use eisogesis without exegesis, yes, you can gather a false idea

so people didnt use the bible to support both sides

my bad, i guess ill just go inform all the history books about slavery in the US to change things

bro, the rabbit hole is pretty deep

sounds the alars =]

alarms

so, you dont see a problem with the bible being used for both sides?

What's esiogesis and exegesis?

your meaning vs intended meaning

eisogesis is like bouncing ideas off verses to gather meaning, exegesis is understanding scripture as it is written and the culture it was written to, and the original meaning

both are important

Both sound flawed

if it can used to justify any position then what makes you think you interpretation of the bible is correct

i believe the way i understand the bible fits exegetically

i will tell you how i feel about things like the authors intended meaning and trying to study that and sticking to it. It doesnt really matter what the author meant to say. All that matters is what people get out of it. If the author did a good enough job then people will get what the author intended. However, everyone is differnt they see things differnt. So if you get something differnt out of it. So what, its your personal views

again, thats a general statement not just aimed at the bible

i believe the bible, as its written, and as the holy spirit leads me

and let it lead you how you think it does, but you cant be surprised when someone differnt from you sees the bible saying much differnt things

As the holy spirit leads you seems like you allow your own baises to lead your reading

again, eisogesis should be in line with exegesis

but it isnt

it wont be

it was written 2000 years ago, people are differnt

people view the world differntly then people 2000 years ago did

you dont understand so it cant be, is that your arguement?

no, my arguement is that its a written text and people view things differently and sometimes in a contradictory way.

so its impossible to have a one size fits all aproach

which is what you are saying

^^^

i said before everyone has a very personal relationship with Jesus Christ

which would be a reason why a text cant fit everyone

so it doesnt have a particular intrepretation

cant fit and agree with everyone

[1 John 2:27]

yes what fluff said. There cant be one solid definit meaning

everyone gets differnt meanings from it

[1 peter 3:18]

does that have more than 1 meaning?

how can we know?

good answer

how can we know the "true" meaning of it if everyone is gonna have a different interpretattion

i bet i can easily come up with multiple meanings for that

You need the holy spirit living inside of you to teach you

lol

Jesus was going to be killed painfully for sins he committed, some times he commited the crimes for a just reason some times for an unjust. He wanted to show us how to get closer to god. He was going tokilled but was given a burst of energy and was able to escape punishment

i love you and i greatly appreciate your interest

there is a diffenrt interperation of that passage

[2 Corinthians 5:21]

God made a new sin in the world to replace the other ones so that we would be better for him

at least we can agree with bible having different interpretations

Right, Jesus paid the price for sin, so that by simply putting our faith in Jesus we can be reunited with the Father of spirits.

that isnt what i said

God sent Jesus to take our sin onto himself so that we would be better equipped to be with God, having the righteousness of Jesus Christ

i mean, yeah i know what its suppose to say

that isnt the point i am making though