although is shows a correlation, we can look for new results if we create a placebo control group

Many reasons to be anti vaxx

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2019/06/another-mmr-failure-with-mumps-outbreak-in-florida/#.XPsAdoJx8F8.twitter

Many reasons to question what the hell is going on

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Can I quickly mention that it isn't the USA's government that's trying to get people vacinated, literally all governments want you vaccinated to some extent, and haven't researched it yet, however some pretty squeaky clean countries want you vaccinated, if the government was squeaky clean, why would they want to vaccinate you if it didn't do the job?

Also, if vaccines were a major experement, that would be very unwise as they can't easily monitor smaller affects to the disease. And what do they have to compare it to, chickens? Oh wait they have been vaccinated too.

There's really no point for the government to experiment, and you are gonna say flexing, then it's not the correct stage yet as they need to stop underfunding schools and make collage/universities AFFORDABLE (**NOT FREE AS SOMEONE ISNT GOIN TO BE BRIGHT**)

Also did you guys remember about NGO's, usually those charities that are pretty good at their job as they planned how to help. They also push ***FOR VACCINATION*** and they are non-government???

***Oh well, someone's gonna ignore my points***

not all governments have encouraged all, Japan for instance stopped recommending HPV vaccines over health concerns and questionable evidence behind it's efficiacy

no long term research was done whether it prevents cervical cancer or not

and it would be put off the market when dozens of studies pop up showing it doesn't protect for cervical cancer in the long term

@The Chucken Noris your points were nothing more than hopes and dreams

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@The Chucken Noris Name a single government that is squeaky clean. Just one.

Ah shiz

Didn't read that sorry

Okay, you guys have a valid point I guess

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 lol no doubt

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https://youtu.be/bHSRwhceBxk

http://fullmeasure.news/news/cover-story/the-vaccination-debate

forced or mandatory vaccination is a form of involuntary treatment. What would happen if a war was declared on all forms of involuntary treatment?

Fairly certain the 14th Amendment gives you the right to refuse medical treatment.
I do not comply with any medical law attempting to infringe my constitutional rights and natural rights as a civilian and a human.

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that implies the government cares about your rights

Of course they don't. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna tell them to shove it until they force a confrontation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7xSnkG5Ico

lord Bertrand Russell quoted as saying they are going to mold you thru DIET AND INJECTION = GMOS AND VACCINES it has been right in your face all of these years and you still cant see it

- Bertrand Russell, "The Scientific Outlook", 1931 look it up

you do realise that vaxx are just the disease but without the DNA so baiscally you're given a disease that won't do anything for you and will train your body against it so when you actually get the disease it retains memory from its experience and produces more things to defend it

you learn this in science

completely agree

if the government violates the 14th amendment, yet still gives it it's right to exist, you'll find government irony. Tyrannical irony

@INeedTherapy bs you need booster shots when you get vaccines . i dont lol i had the chickenpox, measles, and mumps never died lol obviously and none of my friends ever did either and none of use will have to ever worry about any booster shot . your so called vaccines dont give life long immunity, and they are not modeling you for the better hahaha if you think bertrand russlle was looking out for your best interest you are a fool

they dont give life long immunity

they let your organism remember this "training" for a set period of time

making you able to produce more anti things or whatever they're called in english (in french it's anti corps, so i'm guessing in english it's anti bodies?) to counter said disease

This is why you need to re-do it every set period of time

And vaccines don't necessarely "save" you

As i said, it's just training

but if your body is well fed and in good shape (no smoking ,etc) it may be able to counter it by itself.

Vaccines are only here to "help".

Plus, nothing wrong with vaccines, they dont cause any external diseases

Also, you can do experiments on rats (or people) to see that if you make a rat (or again, a person) sick of...uhh, tetanos let's say, one with the vaccine and the other one without it, i'll let you guess which one lives and which one dies

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okay, lets test two groups, one has gotten a vaccine for measles 20 years ago, another has gotten measles 20 years ago. Who will have the most blood titers present?

Problem is

I just said it

Vaccines are NOT permanent.

If you've got a vaccine for measles but never actually got measles

it wont do crap

But if you DO get measles during the set period of time

it'll save you ezpz

And i'm standing by my point unless i'm proved wrong.

This is random but werent vaccines made from fetuses?

Yes

Nooooooo

They use fetal cells

But its not the same wtf

Those cells do not come from fetuses

They can create these cells in a lab

Just need one cell from a fetus and you can create millions of cells from that

They come from fetuses

I think its more they test it on fetal cells but dont include them in the vaccine.

They are in them

whats going on?

Fetal tissue in the vaxx does not surprise me to be honest.

Pretty much nothing this evil world does can surprise me anymore

What's the point of putting feral tissue in a vaxx, extra protein or something?

*fetal

I mean, there's a reason behind every action

They don't put fetal tissue in vaccines lol

I agree that they test with fetal, but that was long ago, it's more synthetic I guess, and why even bother about already dead corpses, they can't do all harm

@April I believe but I'm saying for arguments sake

Ol

Ok

The foetus is dead so why should you care, at least they aren't killing you immediately when you vaxx

I mean, if it was for a experiment, imma be like "go science"

But I don't think it is

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vaccinate your kids

if not, your retarded!

^^ coward

It really annoys the piss out of me when these people come here and spout ignorance, then leave before they can get refuted or called out for their bullshit. Fucking be a man and handle your shit or shut the fuck up.

They use fetal cells to grow more of them then seperate it with bacteria blocking screens (for long term vaccines). They then place them in a different solution that the virus can maintain itself in. Usually they can last a few days outside of cells because they dont require energy (except heat debatably which is do sble)

question: I've received vaccinations before with no adverse side effects.
whats with all the "vaccines bad" stuff I see decently often across the internet?

> no adverse side effects
> is literally autistic

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vaccines bad because peeps need to die of measles

think all the endangered species of microbiology

congratulations, you've proved my point that most people from the server we both came from came here to shitpost.

ye i came here to wind u up