I don't believe that the Earth is flat

wow I barely save documents anymore

with google docs now

Why does it matter whether the Earth is flat?

why does that matter?

does it directly effect your life?

wait did you just call me a sheep?

I'm not a follower simply for saying I believe the Earth is flat

also, claiming that believing one thing is "enlightened" and another "uneducated" is basically preaching a religion

for every bit of so-called evidence for flat Earth, there is 10 pieces of counterevidence

`we have seen the light` sounds like a religion to me ngl

^

the existence of satellites

^

^

calling us 'trolls' because we have a different viewpoint?

exactly, the existence of satellites (both artificial and natural) is proof that the Earth is round

are you censoring one side Elite?
sounds like you don't want to hear anyone who disagrees with you, even rationally

lmao tires are round

@Tejiu The Gecko their opinions are pretty entrenched

@『Azure - Disco』 they actually deleted someone's message who posted a reasonable pro-vaccine point

facts.

Azure-Disco left because people were deleting pro-vaccine viewpoints

I have screenshots (not links unfortunately)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/564101813121450024/575008294284951582/Screen_Shot_2019-05-06_at_7.44.56_AM.png?width=698&height=600

you can see the bottom of the message at the top

which is still here

but this was completely removed

^ Yup, that's the truth.

I now believe that the Earth is flat, or at least not round

I've viewed the evidence in <#484516084846952451> and it's pretty clear that it's not a globe

no, I just changed

what's the evidence for a rounded Earth?

I'd say I'm undecided

is there any real proof of atmospheric life other than sketchy government probes?

oh that's true

I mean high-altitude

@JuanPickHero vaccines good

no, because a lack of vaccines lead to deaths in a population

so some group wants people to become unvaccinated simply to solve for overpopulation

:^)

yeah because of better food supply & control over bodies

vaccines do more harm than good though

I mean, they protect the human population

but they produce resistant microbes

what does this have to do with vaccines?

I mean that philosophy can be used for many things

vaccines protect populations

they provide herd immunity

which is necessary for safeguarding a population against virulent outbreaks

"naturalnews"

show me an actual scientific study please

not news article

I mean I could use weeklyworldnews.com

nobody says you are

but not being vaccinating not only harms yourself but the entire population

for every news article you link I can show you a real, scientific study that disproves that vaccinations causes harm

I do have an open mind

I'm not labelling you as anything negative

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/glp-facts/mike-adams-natural-news-everyones-favorite-uber-quack-1-anti-science-website/

He believes in many unproven conspiracy theories and claims himself to be anti-science

you can't cite him as a scientific source

`Adams’ NaturalNews.com website has been characterized by Brian Dunning, who runs the science-based Skeptoid, as the #1 “worst anti-science website”`

anti-science is not science

`NaturalNews is … a cesspool of pseudo-scientific insanity seasoned generously with political vitriol and outlandish conspiracy theories.”
`

Sure, sure

but your facts don't have scientific backing

sure, share with me some actual scientific studies

not news articles

Citizen Z, I have been respectful during this discussion

`Adams has gone so far as to ask anti-GMO activists to kill scientists and science journalists`

wow real hero ya got there

natural news isn't real science

lmao he claims it himself

heres your article Wretch

https://web.archive.org/web/20140725171529/http://seedfreedom.in/biotech-genocide-monsanto-collaborators-and-the-nazi-legacy-of-science-as-justification-for-murder/

its a web archive because he deleted it

`Adams neither cites nor provides any specifics as to his formal education or training other than to claim he “has a four-year bachelor of science degree from a prominent university in the Midwest. He has minors in mathematics and economics.” He adds that he “began to attend college before graduating from high school” He claims his early college coursework included microbiology and genetics” as support for his “strong academic background in the sciences.”`

oh yea sure

he's a good scientist

without any credentials

let me just ask you to do something simple

go to a place where you can see a ship or a car far away

which part of the ship rises first?

gravity exists

Vaccines do more good than harm though

@unknownglitch ikr, look at real science and not anti-science news websites

No need to stoop to insults

I looked at evidence outside of here

in a way

when the moon is in front of Earth, we see the darker side

when the moon is behind Earth, Earth obscures some of the sunlight and moon is in our shadow, which is slightly cone shaped

lmao what happened

:angerine:

`You think 3 biased papers holds more water than just this compilation of 157?` No, your sources have just as much bias as anyone else. Also, there is a greater number of studies which have COMPLETELY disproved the idea that vaccines cause autism. Look at *Graphical Science* studies.
`Not to mention all of the other links in that room?
It would appear you will never look at any of our evidence so I'm not sure you deserve to be here, anymore.` Uh, I don't think you looked through all of the other evidence for a disagreeing opinion. Sounds like you're trying to shut down someone who disagrees with you.
`What say you, in your defense?` sorry mate, this isn't a trial

you know it would cost more to fake the moon landing (by needing to use millions of lasers to fake the lighting) than to actually land on the moon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhp-FTYSGe8

Actually watch that

and there are sources in the description