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http://jeb.biologists.org/content/218/17/2799
Making glyphosate tolerant crops is harmful to honeybees.
Farming genetically modified salmon is dangerous to the environment and native (wild) fish populations.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22694239
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/280/1763/20131047
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AquAdvantage_salmon
This is a link to the Non-GMO Shopping Guide. It provides a list of foods that are safe to eat. ๐
https://www.organicconsumers.org/sites/default/files/non-gmo-shopping-guide.pdf
i need all food
i make food my friends,
i dont have much friends ;C
@_-(Koichizu)-_ stop trolling and clogging the chats with nonsense
its true that i have no friends, i take it offencivley that you say that i speak nonsense.
there's a reason why we should make sure GMO labels should exist in the first place
although injecting genes of something different might seem harmless, just imagine what would happen if it damaged a gene important for the production of ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
think about those unintentional off-target mutations by CRISPR
even if they can be reduced, it will have known and unknown consequences
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Earth is round boiisss
Round...and flat
Just what i said
GMO's arent that bad, if they were, we would immediatly be feeling dodgy after eating veg
no they poison us
and let demons in our heads
HOW
Its possible to throw holy water at it, now safe to eat for you now,.
This is bout beleived science, not ideolegies yet
Even selective breeding to make batter crops count as GMO's technically
No they dont
Selective breeding is not genetically modified organisms
Technically it is, youbchange the future ones to have the genes of qualities you want
Its quite just barely on it which makes people like you think it as not.
The qualities you want have somthing to do with genes at the most deepest part
Lets say plant a is REALLY good, and there are other plants all the way to Z, you'll want to have more A or stuff like that and throw away Z
So you get A, AB, and AC to see if you can make a better plant
And then you notice that E has a special quality thta is benificial
And AC worked very well
So you get AC-E
Wapam, gmo
See ny point?
@The Chucken Noris#6862 to be fair selective breeding isn't injecting and synthetically changing with chemicals
I'm not saying GMOs actually are harmful, just they pose risks selective breeding doesn't
That being said selective breeding has it's own dangers
That GMOS attempt to solve
gmos increase crop yields and survivability and are quite necessary for a soon to be 8 billion humans on the planet
Ikr
GMOs are harmful to humans and the environment
Do you mean genetic modification to ourselves or ingesting genetically modified foods? And even then do you make a distinction from crops and animals?
Both and both
so you eat gmos and dont care
Nah, even if they were bad, probs not as bad as other things, just saying that there are other things that are more dangerous
You're not good at this
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-04-16-candida-auris-the-silent-superbug-thats-already-too-late-to-stop.html was not sure where to post this but it is a must watch
genetic modification has both known and unknown risks if you think about it, regardless of what any authorities have to say
I can say that that is a rational point to say the least
But the good can outweigh the bad
I still prefer organic and any other technology that renders GMOs obsolete
I would like to go full organic.
same here
I have no idea what the hum is
haven't looked for it
lol
I'm content with a 40-50 year lifespan
@Lancelot yes i saw 'the hum' as part of your roles that's why i asked
when do we ride for the ice wall
Everyone see this? Eat gmos. Reduce life to 40 years old. This is a great example of a confused person.
Possibly satanic
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You really need to look into this, you are making yourself look ridiculous @Pinnaplia
Lol what is there to look into? Oops I was content with a shorter lifespan? Also Citizen Z I can show you satanic if you want, that's the fun but not so fun stuff. Or at least I think it may be satanic honestly idk. @Citizen Z @Credibly Charted
<:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> Is that admitting you are a satanist?
Nahvthats just admitting I have a broad amount of knowlage. Idk why people worship Satan it seems odd. I'm an Atheist lol.
Nah that's*
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Citizen Z is just calling me stuff like that cuz he's a little rattled.
lol wat
mhm
i would be content with a lifespan of
400 years
Same
What GMOs actually are @Pinnaplia
Was that supposed to be followed with something?
Eating gmos does not modify or change our DNA in any way.
DNA manipulation through consuming food is not possible.
What if the food contains DNA manipulating substances?
It means were gay
There are no "DNA manipulating substances"
That's exactly what I'd say if I was a government agency manipulating people's DNA with substances.
DNA is inserted into an organism
Not sprayed onto it
So it's impossible to alter DNA?
Not once have I stated that
You said there are no DNA manipulating substances.
Are proteins substances?
Are alpha sources substances?
DNA is inserted into cells, which then replicate
Are proteins substances?
Giving a plant proteins does not alter DNA
Uhhh
By substances do you mean just spraying a plant with a liquid
Did I say that?
You did not specify
So why do you make that assumption?
Not sure
The globe earther that doesn't believe in science ๐
DNA is inserted into cells, which then repicate
Eating a plant containing those cells does not alter human DNA
Cas 9 is an RNA manipulating protein.
Cas 9 is not eaten
No, but nanobots are
All the time
DNA altering proteins are injected directly into human cells to alter DNA
Not eaten
Jesus
Lmao
Why do you think people have so many health issues this decade?
Improper diet, maybe?
Eating 100 cheeseburgers a month does not guarantee great health
Overworked+bad diet=multiple health issues
^
and that's like the two best describers of working adults in this decade
Exactly
Trusting big corps like Mc Donald's in the first place ๐
I don't eat at McDonald's because i know the standards they have for the meat they use
Never eat that shit, it contains all sorts of government funded experimental research
what? Next are we going to say don't drink tap water because of governent tampering?
Don't wash your hands
my job requires me to
so you know, I don't taint the water I treat
But that water is government water dont wash your hands!
b-but i treated it myself
Bruh, how is the government *NOT* tampering with tap water.
Because I can tell you the three main chemicals used in Water Treatment
and all of them are 100% soluable and only clump up toxins and balance the PH level
This is getting kinda off topic
GMOs are harmless
Let me ask ya'll first, what is a gmo
Because no plant we modifyed caused a terminator style appocolypsse, but seriously, gmos intended to affect how well the plant survives, and possibly the quality of food in a beneficial way
Do you think GMO's end at plants? Genetically modified animals down to natural traits and behaviors
They engineer animals also
I know gmos dont end at plants but they MOSTLY affect plants
GMO plants need crap loads of water ,, they don't do well , the farmer assumes all liability ,, the round up has skull & cross bones all over the packages , but there safe , so where re the studies , past 3 months ,, is was it 3 weeks . // u ppl hav no clue just repeat the talking points of liberals that are empty vessels // SAD days , on the SAD die-t
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Humans are gmo
@spiritualVapor somaRaSa excellent points
Figures
I just heard a round up company in Europe got sewed a massive amount of money for their products causing cancer. Im gonna try to find a link for anyone interested
Interested
had trouble finding the European case but easily found some others
I don't know how to make like the web link things so ill just post the urls
One from Canada
some in californa with that article too
the IARC (the International Agency for Research on Cancer) is saying its most likely carcinogenic
Apparently the big one Bayer is even in my state, ouch
Even CNN is taking the side against round up
more successful lawsuits. this time someone accidently sprayed themselves with it and got sick. Then a scientific experiment was performed and it showed that it may also cause another diesease, https://www.businessinsider.com/monsanto-roundup-liver-disease-cancer-2019-5 . man rip round up
I don't think round up is going to be around in 5 years
oh apparently Bayer is a worldwide company thats actually german. So I guess the lawsuits are against european companies but from other places in the world. Yeah I don't think Roundup is going to be around much longer unless Bayer can handle all of multi billion dollar lawsuits coming out at them. Although this one is a little more supportive of Roundup they still go against it too https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/15/round-weedkiller-linked-cancer-us-still-sale-uk-9554688/ I think this is enough source data about the topic so I'm going to stop posting
the alternative media is more likely to have suspicion on subjects
Russia has at least made a good regulation on GMOs, like Japan did
maybe we can introduce environmental tariffs
I mean gmos can be good but unfortunately most of them are modified to resist pesticides which encourages use pesticides which is bad. But like some of them are good. Diabetics who couldn't produce insulin used to have to take insulin from animals but when scientists used recombinant technology to place an insulin producing gene into ecoli they could produce insulin much more cheaply and efficiently. The problem is is that farming companies place the toxin resistant and pesiticide resistant genes into crops which encourages use of these which are both bad for the environment but more importantly are bad for human beings
on this, I would still prefer selective breeding over transgenics. As transgenics is riskier than selective breeding
I mean yes but we cant always get a trait we want through selective breeding whereas if we use transgenic we can choose any trait. But yes. Its not clear when that trait goes into the organism if when consumed its bad for thr consumer.
then there's also genetic modification where crops create their own pesticides, not to mention that. As there has been research showing what long term effects will be on animals. Although animals are not the same as humans, the used animals in the studies are mammals. Look for anything familiar to the situation we live in right now, with multiple medical crises in cases of chronic illness.
think about it, manmade toxic food
Yep welcome to business operated genetic engineering
it's preferable to use multiculture in agriculture, since that's more sustainable than monoculture
Wtf
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all about the money!!! always is !!!!!!!!!!
I am pro gmos. Anyone want to debate?
What do you think about eating gmo salmon meat that has been dyed red using red dye pellets
Yeah im against that. They should get rid of this
Also gmos arent always bad. Its just usually the farmers (and the fish companies) creating certain gmos that encourage bad policies. Like pesticide resistant crops allowing them to use more pesticide. Not all of these mutations are bad that farmers use, but some of them definetly are very bad
Why mutate anything. You like witchcraft?
more proof he is one of them and not out for your best interest at all
Mutating things is fine (before life of course, not during) as long as its to be beneficial for society and we aren't doing stupid stuff like releasing genetically modified fish into the ecosystem.
Also welcome to biology today. The government cant control bioethics effectively. It might become a huge problem very soon
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*who the hell needs proof thats hes one of them? all presidents are puppets*
wtf
proof is somthing universal
when you have proof that isnt molded or fabricated it becomes fact so if you want to push ideals please don't be far fetched give somthing for you to stand on and build on to *argue* for
Alchemy
hi everyone
Hey i saw a commercial about a legal action for round up weed killer
If you or your loved one has had this cancer and been exposed to round up weed killer call now. One of those types of commercials.
kek gmos are fine
ok
They say its probably not a significant factor in amphibian populatuon decline. Still rip amphibians.
Oh graaaate
Toxic potatoes
Who would of thought
Bioremediation at its worst. Also at its best if we used it for untoxicating land after hurricanes. Too bad farming companies find a way to make just about anything more toxic
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The idea of GMOโs is smart but itโs manipulation of nature
Things are created as they are and I personally think that the modification of these are not needed. Even to increase things like yield
Good luck finding something thats not genetically modified somehow. Basically everything on a farm has been modified by artificial selection and/or genetic modification throughout history.
For reference, I'm someone who works with tons of farmers due to business, and one thing that they mention is that GMO crops just grow so well due to them not having any limiting factors, but some of them state that they'd stop using them if they could make their contracts meet, as they often observe that something about the plants is foreign to certain insects, and in some cases, their digestive system stops working, and they just die near the crops.
Now keep in mind, these are uncommon cases in the selection of small insects, so harm to us is a different factor altogether, especially since we as humans have strong livers
But one thing you need to distinguish is artificial selection and GMO. Artificial selection is simply selecting a gene that was already in the gene pool and expressed. With Monsanto, the genes are artificially manipulated in order to make them resistant to Roundup's glyphosate, and was not an artificial selection, but an artificial insertion concerning the genetic code
A kid with butterfly syndrome just got his whole life back with Tom skin grafts
It can dรฉfini be a good thing
Gmo skin grafts?
@GreenPixel try your link again lol
But we're talking about agricultural genetic modification
Gmos feed a large amount.of people and in fairness glyphosphate is better than other herbicides
Glyphosphate is still bad though
Gmos dont feed that many ppl
There is over 500 million farmers.
Only 18 million grow gmo
I have a ton of good facts on this stuff
Gmo are bad for the soil
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