I just wanna know why the government would go through all the trouble of hiding the secret of the "Flat Earth", I have heard several reason on how it flat and how they would hide it, but never why.

What do they gain?

Lol I love this new conspiracy

100% more believable

Can creation and evolution not be the same thing? Just throwing out the idea that God used evolution to create man. And being the idiotic nonomnicient little mortals we are, we may have made a few mistakes in the Bible to suggest otherwise?

And this is coming from an Atheist.
Seriously it took me like 5 mins to come up with this why are people still fighting about it.

Also to the flat earthers that keep trying to use the Bible as proof the earth is flat. Guys, stop, you're using a multi thousand year old book that has been translated a multitude of times as solid evidence. There is a million ways that could be jacked up, and EVERYONE believed in a flat Earth back then because EVERYONE was ignorant, not stupid, but ignorant.

Thx Jacku, I don't feel alone anymore.

Lol yeah, I feel like we'd know if it wasn't considering the massive agry lizars that used to run around, or if only 2000 years ago they all just suddenly died, there would probably still be corpses scattered around the planet (well only bones but you get it)

Climate change is real, the only part they forget to mention is the fact that if you look at our climate change over the past 10k years or so it looks like a freaking rolls coaster. So it's not exactly a problem, just a thing.

Please tell me what the government gains from hiding the shape of the entire Earth, because that would cost a massive amount of money.

So what do they gain? Because if they were doing so it wouldn't be for fun.

Can any flat earthers give me one reason why the government would keep this secret. Because they would have to spend a massive amount of money, time, and would have to regulary kill a ton of people plus keep literally every country with the technology of a camera, advanced balloon, and ductape under complete control to make this happen. So just one reason to justify all of that.

To a certain extent

But there would be no power to gain from that

I would say better considering our space boys aren't flying in a thick tin can hoping they don't blow up

@John Smith well it kinda is a problem, but we can't solve it just as how we can't the sun from eventually destroying the planet.

@John Smith It's not us making the Earth hotter/colder it's just how Earth has always been. That's why Ice Ages have existed, mammoths werent tossing around ice cube back then.

I think I have beat flat earthers, still no answers for why the Government would hide the shape of the earth. Didn't even need to use science or math all along lol.

The point I'm making is there is no reason why they would. I would be willing to listen to all the math and science of how the Earth is flat, even though it is all flawed since the earth has to be a sphere. Especially since it's silly to think our planet is the ONLY flat planet, which I'm 90% sure is what the head of the flat Earth organization has stated.
But considering everyone with a boat can go at Antartica and run around there, immediately disproving the ice wall theory, and the fact that anyone with a camera and weather balloon or something similar could also see if there earth was flat. Which I encourage you to try, maybe those balloons are extremely expensive idk, but if you can just get a camera, hit record, attach it to althat kind of balloon, and see for yourself that the Earth is round.
Our entire government would have to be based around keeping a secret that is unbearably disproveable and a secret that is not even worth keeping.

And I do believe knowlage is power, but I think my interpretation of that is different as it makes no sense in this context so if you want Jeremy, tell me what that means to you.

I only take the time to say this because I have strong beliefs around the subject of ignorance and if I can make you people that much more aware and intelligent, then I complete my purpose just a little more.

@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ Already wrote about this but I can't find it sooooo.

BIBLE IS NOT A VALID SOURCE
People wrote the Bible and back then people believed that earth was flat because they had horrid tech and they had complete faith in the church. Now that we have actual evidence you still cling to a book that is not only inbeliveably old, but a book that has also been translated countless time!

Sorry for the late post but I gotta defend myseld, even in a battle I know I've won.

You'd think after all of this, some flat earthers would have gotten a camera and a big balloon, hit record, and streamed the whole thing to himself and then be either surprised or embarrassed at the fact that we don't live on a brittle and impossible frisbee

Jeremy, the earth is massive, it's going to look flat at first. See what happens when they go higher

If I put a tiny tiny little insect on a beach ball, they wouldn't know it was a ball. If they had that kind of intelligence.

Lemme check

10.5k meters

So about 3x what you said

Wait no my math sucks

Bruh at 120k you'd see the curve, you watched a hoax

Either that or terrible footage

Nah I was playing D2

Destiny

There isn't a formula that I'm aware of but I have read that 35k ft in perfect condition is the start of seeing a curve

All I know is that you gotta be fking high up in the atmosphere

A better way to explain the big bang is that once in awhile matter would form as two parts, matter and antimatter, somehow during that infinity matter outweighed antimatter and more matter was created.

Or if your like me you'd believe that back an unknown amount of time something destroyed the entire everything and was left alone, this being either felt alone or felt bad about destroying everything and decided to create something. Thus our universe was born. Then you just put that on an infinite cycle. Of course the details are hazy and unexplained because I'm a sentient meat bag and have nowhere near the knowlage I'd need to even begin to comprehend how any of this would work or happen.

An important detail of the big bang is that it doesn't disprove a god, very few notice that.

I'm with you there

Although the biggest crack in the belief of God is the question with no answer.

Our world has a minute chance of ever existing, but with infinite time it had to at some point. But then it's such a small chance. It just cancelles itself out over and over.

Makes me both agnostic and atheist

Is there a thing for that?

Agnostic is believing in a creator but you don't know anything about that creator

Ye

Oh wait it's both

Wut

Yeah, I've had so many agreements when that was the only inhibitor

Yeah

The only part of that, that I don't beleive in is Omnicient.

Ah thats nice, but if everything about god is true, then he must not be omnibenevolent, as Earth looks like an expieriment

Well Omnipotence is all powerful and all knowing yes?

If so, our definition is relative as we cannot comprehend what Omnipotence is, so it would just mean power and knowlage beyond our understanding.

But yes you did correct me

Well, what if that being possed all the power in the universe, then as long as "anything" is limited to the bounds of everything possible, then he could be all powerful.

True

But I'm trying to give you a better definition of God

Im not trying to do that, I'm just saying if religious people wanted their definition to be correct, this is the closest thing they could get.

To me, if there was one, it wouldn't be biological as that would inhibit its power, it would never die and would not be able to die as that would inhibit it, it would also know next to everything and would be infinitly gainign more knowlage without even trying. It would have the power to do everyting I can think of and maybe even more. (I have no idea if the laws of the universe can be changed, but it would)

Basically it would be in an endless suffering and torment knowing that it will never know rest or happiniess as nothing could ever relate to it. The only thing it would have failed at is gainging its power.

If that even exists, then I hope not (Talking ab Omniscience and its presence in a god)

Not accepting defeat, but this isn't my area of expertise and its not important enough for me to research on. But as far as I know, it's such a small problem that it doesn't matter. Though don't try sending me research or whatnot as I'm mainly on this channel to help Flat Earther's past their ignorance as such a thing bothers me. This topic is actually a one worth debate so I know i could be wrong.

Bruh there is nothing stopping yo from taking a bout out there

They can't defend the entire border of Antartica

WE CANT DEFEND OUR OWN BORDER

What amazing is I don't need to prove or disprove our globe

I just gotta disprove our fking budget

That thing died years ago

It gave up

Stop

No

That's not a language

Showing "total ignorance" says the ignorant one. I honestly wanna buy a weather balloon, take a flat earthers camera so he knows I didn't do anything to my camera, strap it to the balloon, send it in the air and stream and/or retreive the footage, watch it. And get a nice glimpse at the flat earthers face when our giant spinning ball is shown flying through the vast emptiness of space.
Bruh if you're going to try to insult a subject by calling it a spinning flying globe and then call someone totally ignorant, which is the same as stupid and you know it. Remember your on team falling pancake with ice cubes surrounding the breakfast plate.

And "good evidence" is literally everywhere.

Our planet would have broken by now if it was a brittle disc and not s sphere

Our planet being the only flat planet it just dumb, if y'all believed every planet was flat that would make sense but this is just desperately clinging to anything you can and you know it.

Our government wouldn't lie about the shape of the planet because THEY GAIN NOTHING, and I did watch that video and thinking there is a war between the Government and Religion is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read. Probably just about every church and definitely the freaking Pope has the means to purchase a weather balloon which is $200-$400 btw.

Our government would never be able to afford to keep this secret considering the costs of surveylance, making sure nobody at NASA leaks data, nobody buys a balloon and camera, and not a single country disagrees with this.

Anybody can go to Antartica and see the fact that there is no Ice Wall because nobody can stop you. There is no. Military wall. Have you seen how big the border of Antartica is? WE CANT PROTECT OUR OWN BORDER.

If you think you have any other proof come at me because you trying to win a battle that you lost BEFORE YOU EXISTED.

I will probably get muted for daring to completely flatten every peice of proof that I have seen so if I do... Guess that means I win.

None of this is trying to insult or demean you, I'm just sick of this unending Pride and Ego.

I accept defeat and being wrong, others need to do the same.

Lol sorry Rossm what up

Nah it's actually in the shape of a half eaten waffle

Which one the book I just wrote or the waffle?

Lol

I wrote this on a phone and im not Shakespeare.

Plus I hope you know that insulting my Grammer and not my points say a lot more about you than it does me.

Ross woah man this is civil debate

Civilllll

Do a delete

Jokes on you

Idk what Romper room is

Mike can you afford $200-400?

Is looking at your so called flat Earth worth that to you?

Depends on weather and degrees of vision

YES YOU GET IT

Small fry!

I am small

That's the POINT

We're to small to eaisly see the curve so you gotta go hiiiiiiigh and see wide

Otherwise it will always look flat

Think about 35k ft is the absolute minimum in perfect condition but I'm not positive

And that memes is wrong because it's comparing land curvature to atmospheric curvature

Because if we can't get people to believe the simplistic of things our species is screwed

Oh Eva just so you know, the mere presence of the death penalty saves more lives than it takes by a Longshot

Lol yeah I don't believe in ice walls, that's silly

Mike you have yet to defend any of your topics, instead you call me child and ignorant. I will just take this as a win and move on to my next challenge. Who else wants to present me with either a factual debate or moral question?

@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧

@eva I have done a fair amount of research on it, and the death penalty actually saves more lives than it takes. Not to mention that almost all of the lives it takes are lives that belong to criminals that don't deserve redemption or life. The only changes that the death penalty should undertake is reverting back to a firing squad as it is consistent and cheap. And it should be used more often as getting rid of hopeless criminals saves our government money so it can be used for better purposes and so a murderous criminals has no chance of ever killing again.

No problem

Though I do understand why people oppose it, but if you just do a simple Google of those murdered and those executed by the death penalty, it's a massive difference. Getting rid of the penalty would make the killing severely rise so to me it's just a simple comparison of numbers and risk. Wether it is morally correct is not something I try to debate.