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I just wanna know why the government would go through all the trouble of hiding the secret of the "Flat Earth", I have heard several reason on how it flat and how they would hide it, but never why.
What do they gain?
Lol I love this new conspiracy
Can creation and evolution not be the same thing? Just throwing out the idea that God used evolution to create man. And being the idiotic nonomnicient little mortals we are, we may have made a few mistakes in the Bible to suggest otherwise?
And this is coming from an Atheist.
Seriously it took me like 5 mins to come up with this why are people still fighting about it.
Also to the flat earthers that keep trying to use the Bible as proof the earth is flat. Guys, stop, you're using a multi thousand year old book that has been translated a multitude of times as solid evidence. There is a million ways that could be jacked up, and EVERYONE believed in a flat Earth back then because EVERYONE was ignorant, not stupid, but ignorant.
Thx Jacku, I don't feel alone anymore.
Lol yeah, I feel like we'd know if it wasn't considering the massive agry lizars that used to run around, or if only 2000 years ago they all just suddenly died, there would probably still be corpses scattered around the planet (well only bones but you get it)
Climate change is real, the only part they forget to mention is the fact that if you look at our climate change over the past 10k years or so it looks like a freaking rolls coaster. So it's not exactly a problem, just a thing.
Please tell me what the government gains from hiding the shape of the entire Earth, because that would cost a massive amount of money.
So what do they gain? Because if they were doing so it wouldn't be for fun.
Can any flat earthers give me one reason why the government would keep this secret. Because they would have to spend a massive amount of money, time, and would have to regulary kill a ton of people plus keep literally every country with the technology of a camera, advanced balloon, and ductape under complete control to make this happen. So just one reason to justify all of that.
But there would be no power to gain from that
I would say better considering our space boys aren't flying in a thick tin can hoping they don't blow up
@John Smith well it kinda is a problem, but we can't solve it just as how we can't the sun from eventually destroying the planet.
@John Smith It's not us making the Earth hotter/colder it's just how Earth has always been. That's why Ice Ages have existed, mammoths werent tossing around ice cube back then.
I think I have beat flat earthers, still no answers for why the Government would hide the shape of the earth. Didn't even need to use science or math all along lol.
The point I'm making is there is no reason why they would. I would be willing to listen to all the math and science of how the Earth is flat, even though it is all flawed since the earth has to be a sphere. Especially since it's silly to think our planet is the ONLY flat planet, which I'm 90% sure is what the head of the flat Earth organization has stated.
But considering everyone with a boat can go at Antartica and run around there, immediately disproving the ice wall theory, and the fact that anyone with a camera and weather balloon or something similar could also see if there earth was flat. Which I encourage you to try, maybe those balloons are extremely expensive idk, but if you can just get a camera, hit record, attach it to althat kind of balloon, and see for yourself that the Earth is round.
Our entire government would have to be based around keeping a secret that is unbearably disproveable and a secret that is not even worth keeping.
And I do believe knowlage is power, but I think my interpretation of that is different as it makes no sense in this context so if you want Jeremy, tell me what that means to you.
I only take the time to say this because I have strong beliefs around the subject of ignorance and if I can make you people that much more aware and intelligent, then I complete my purpose just a little more.
@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ Already wrote about this but I can't find it sooooo.
BIBLE IS NOT A VALID SOURCE
People wrote the Bible and back then people believed that earth was flat because they had horrid tech and they had complete faith in the church. Now that we have actual evidence you still cling to a book that is not only inbeliveably old, but a book that has also been translated countless time!
Sorry for the late post but I gotta defend myseld, even in a battle I know I've won.
You'd think after all of this, some flat earthers would have gotten a camera and a big balloon, hit record, and streamed the whole thing to himself and then be either surprised or embarrassed at the fact that we don't live on a brittle and impossible frisbee
Jeremy, the earth is massive, it's going to look flat at first. See what happens when they go higher
If I put a tiny tiny little insect on a beach ball, they wouldn't know it was a ball. If they had that kind of intelligence.
Bruh at 120k you'd see the curve, you watched a hoax
There isn't a formula that I'm aware of but I have read that 35k ft in perfect condition is the start of seeing a curve
All I know is that you gotta be fking high up in the atmosphere
A better way to explain the big bang is that once in awhile matter would form as two parts, matter and antimatter, somehow during that infinity matter outweighed antimatter and more matter was created.
Or if your like me you'd believe that back an unknown amount of time something destroyed the entire everything and was left alone, this being either felt alone or felt bad about destroying everything and decided to create something. Thus our universe was born. Then you just put that on an infinite cycle. Of course the details are hazy and unexplained because I'm a sentient meat bag and have nowhere near the knowlage I'd need to even begin to comprehend how any of this would work or happen.
An important detail of the big bang is that it doesn't disprove a god, very few notice that.
Although the biggest crack in the belief of God is the question with no answer.
Our world has a minute chance of ever existing, but with infinite time it had to at some point. But then it's such a small chance. It just cancelles itself out over and over.
Agnostic is believing in a creator but you don't know anything about that creator
Yeah, I've had so many agreements when that was the only inhibitor
The only part of that, that I don't beleive in is Omnicient.
Ah thats nice, but if everything about god is true, then he must not be omnibenevolent, as Earth looks like an expieriment
Well Omnipotence is all powerful and all knowing yes?
If so, our definition is relative as we cannot comprehend what Omnipotence is, so it would just mean power and knowlage beyond our understanding.
Well, what if that being possed all the power in the universe, then as long as "anything" is limited to the bounds of everything possible, then he could be all powerful.
But I'm trying to give you a better definition of God
Im not trying to do that, I'm just saying if religious people wanted their definition to be correct, this is the closest thing they could get.
To me, if there was one, it wouldn't be biological as that would inhibit its power, it would never die and would not be able to die as that would inhibit it, it would also know next to everything and would be infinitly gainign more knowlage without even trying. It would have the power to do everyting I can think of and maybe even more. (I have no idea if the laws of the universe can be changed, but it would)
Basically it would be in an endless suffering and torment knowing that it will never know rest or happiniess as nothing could ever relate to it. The only thing it would have failed at is gainging its power.
If that even exists, then I hope not (Talking ab Omniscience and its presence in a god)
Not accepting defeat, but this isn't my area of expertise and its not important enough for me to research on. But as far as I know, it's such a small problem that it doesn't matter. Though don't try sending me research or whatnot as I'm mainly on this channel to help Flat Earther's past their ignorance as such a thing bothers me. This topic is actually a one worth debate so I know i could be wrong.
Bruh there is nothing stopping yo from taking a bout out there
They can't defend the entire border of Antartica
What amazing is I don't need to prove or disprove our globe
I just gotta disprove our fking budget
Showing "total ignorance" says the ignorant one. I honestly wanna buy a weather balloon, take a flat earthers camera so he knows I didn't do anything to my camera, strap it to the balloon, send it in the air and stream and/or retreive the footage, watch it. And get a nice glimpse at the flat earthers face when our giant spinning ball is shown flying through the vast emptiness of space.
Bruh if you're going to try to insult a subject by calling it a spinning flying globe and then call someone totally ignorant, which is the same as stupid and you know it. Remember your on team falling pancake with ice cubes surrounding the breakfast plate.
And "good evidence" is literally everywhere.
Our planet would have broken by now if it was a brittle disc and not s sphere
Our planet being the only flat planet it just dumb, if y'all believed every planet was flat that would make sense but this is just desperately clinging to anything you can and you know it.
Our government wouldn't lie about the shape of the planet because THEY GAIN NOTHING, and I did watch that video and thinking there is a war between the Government and Religion is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read. Probably just about every church and definitely the freaking Pope has the means to purchase a weather balloon which is $200-$400 btw.
Our government would never be able to afford to keep this secret considering the costs of surveylance, making sure nobody at NASA leaks data, nobody buys a balloon and camera, and not a single country disagrees with this.
Anybody can go to Antartica and see the fact that there is no Ice Wall because nobody can stop you. There is no. Military wall. Have you seen how big the border of Antartica is? WE CANT PROTECT OUR OWN BORDER.
If you think you have any other proof come at me because you trying to win a battle that you lost BEFORE YOU EXISTED.
I will probably get muted for daring to completely flatten every peice of proof that I have seen so if I do... Guess that means I win.
None of this is trying to insult or demean you, I'm just sick of this unending Pride and Ego.
I accept defeat and being wrong, others need to do the same.
Nah it's actually in the shape of a half eaten waffle
Which one the book I just wrote or the waffle?
I wrote this on a phone and im not Shakespeare.
Plus I hope you know that insulting my Grammer and not my points say a lot more about you than it does me.
Is looking at your so called flat Earth worth that to you?
Depends on weather and degrees of vision
We're to small to eaisly see the curve so you gotta go hiiiiiiigh and see wide
Think about 35k ft is the absolute minimum in perfect condition but I'm not positive
And that memes is wrong because it's comparing land curvature to atmospheric curvature
Because if we can't get people to believe the simplistic of things our species is screwed
Oh Eva just so you know, the mere presence of the death penalty saves more lives than it takes by a Longshot
Lol yeah I don't believe in ice walls, that's silly
Mike you have yet to defend any of your topics, instead you call me child and ignorant. I will just take this as a win and move on to my next challenge. Who else wants to present me with either a factual debate or moral question?
@eva I have done a fair amount of research on it, and the death penalty actually saves more lives than it takes. Not to mention that almost all of the lives it takes are lives that belong to criminals that don't deserve redemption or life. The only changes that the death penalty should undertake is reverting back to a firing squad as it is consistent and cheap. And it should be used more often as getting rid of hopeless criminals saves our government money so it can be used for better purposes and so a murderous criminals has no chance of ever killing again.
Though I do understand why people oppose it, but if you just do a simple Google of those murdered and those executed by the death penalty, it's a massive difference. Getting rid of the penalty would make the killing severely rise so to me it's just a simple comparison of numbers and risk. Wether it is morally correct is not something I try to debate.
Yeah, I use the same logic for why I'm pro abortion.
I think anybody who is having a kid and kill it bc whyevee they do it is dumb and wrong.
If they got raped then it's fine to me
If they are under 18 then it's fine for me
The only reason I support abortion is because of what would happen if we ban it.
First people would then do their own abortions and then that would be banned to until pregnent women are basically constantly watched and forced to give birth. Or a scenario like this would take place. That would be okish until, somebody dies.
Worst case scenario is that the government or a hospital or something forces a girl to give birth, the girl dies birthing the kid, and the kid dies as well. Now this isn't a birth anymore, it's an execution.
There would definitely be riots (especially if the victim was a person of color because then it's a hate crime as well)
It would just suck very quickly.
What have they seen? The evidence they got from the back of a cereal box?
@Depression2405 Well, considering that then the only way to combine the two is to acknowledge the possibility of mistranslation or mistakes in the Bible, otherwise this is too far out of my experience and religious knowledge to attempt to prove, disprove, or even comment. But I do have to say good job on the research.
East is always East because North uses Earth's electric field to point North. East is alwayways the same direction wherever you are because North never changes.
Lizard people are the ones that keep turning off your phone alarms so you wake up late.
CHANGE MY MIND
Earth is a sphere because it being flat while every other planet it a sphere is just stupid.
Don't have to prove it, just have to disprove flat Earth
Because I didn't wanna have to repost the paragraph I flung at Mike earlier
If Aleins we're here, we'd all know. Because they have no reason to be secretive. C'mon look at us, we just showed up and chilled when we discovered another 1/2 of the planet XD.
Well I can confirm that kids who don't take vaccines have no chance of getting Autism.
Because they'll be dead so it depends on your priorities which to pick.
Welcome to the mind of an Anti Vax
They are the very few that I will call stupid
Meh, another way to bring trust back is just to wait for all the Anti Vax to die off. Cuz I have completed trust, mainly cuz I'ma be a doctor so I gotta trust a doctor.
@Credibly Charted Is that a quote you support or are making fun of?
Climate change isn't real, God just turned off the AC
Yo don't try to get anti Vaxx people to take vaccines, just let them die off. By all means take their kids and make sure they live a nice low risk life. But let these older gen idiots die off.
Only time I support the government taking kids regardless of parental treatment. Or honestly anyone taking the kids is better than not.
Earth Is Sphere
Death Penalty is necessary
Limited Gun Control
If you I have committed no crimes, no limitations for you
Criminals have no rights to have a gun
The only thing the government should be doing with gun control is knowing who has what
Tho Jeremy is somebody came by to try to take my guns I can garentee that they would at least leave with a bullet
The death penalts precense deters crime and that means it deters murder. Plus 20% of murderers go right back to killing. Some quick Google searchs and simple math shows those killed outweigh the executed. Not to mention that they are innocent so their lives are worth more.
Lol no I know they will get a gun illegally if they want. I'm just saying actually selling them to convicted criminals should never be allowed. Which it probably already isn't. I want gun control to stay right where it is.
Well Chan I try to be very emotional about the Death Penalty but in all honesty. If I knew somebody had actually killed an innocent person I would have no problem skinning them alive and throwing them into a vat of alchohol.
To me that's a good penalty.
Also prison isn't as bad as you think
If they rape somebody, just strap something to a rod, cover it in rock salt, and plunge in and out until you know they're sorry.
Starting to fear myself cuz I come up with these things in like 1 min
If the judge falsely convicts and sentences them something that cruel...
@Citizen Z The fact that people find the slightest bit of evidence that supports a ridiculous claim and blindly follow the theory that we live on a falling frisbee at somehow nobody has any photos or said disc is beyond "pretty sad".
If you're gonna try to insult us, I will smite thee. Keep it civil.
Chan, if you are trying to decide what to believe just ask yourself if it makes any sense that Earth is the ONLY FLAT PLANET IN EXISTENCE.
Bc FE's believe that. @💕 Chan-Chan
Ever heard of Akhams Razor?
You should do that, makes life easy.
Also I'ma probs get banned for smiting Citizen Z :(
Jump once, if you don't drift infinity then there is indeed gravity
That's would be effective if I didn't have my Uno Reverse card out
What do you think I keep in this hoodie?
Happy has been typing for a scary amount of time
Not another book nooooo only I can do that
WE are a detector, throw your fking siblings and watch what happens. They fall and it's hilarious
Cool this planet has life and others don't your point?
C'mon smart guy tell me how a bunch of tiny critters change the shape of a planet.
Ooooh cool it's different. I have freckels does that mean I'm immortal?
Maybe I can generate lazers from my eyes and erase people from existence because Im "different"
Does Mars being red mean it's a tetrahedron?
Oh wait none of that makes any sense
WE ARE TINY INSIGNIFICANT CRITTERS when compared to a planet. Jesus dude I came here to debate not teach a 5 year old common sense. If I put a few ant on a basketball does that make it 2-d??? C'mon sleepy it's time to wake up.
I have heard countless reasons why the Earth is flat and this is literally the dumbest one.
Also congrats the the first correct thing you've said
Now let's go over your shapes
Maybe there will be come improvement
Actually it's in the shape of a waffle
You talking about stars? Boi I never mentioned stars lol. Getting desperate now are we?
Now he's just reposting premade lines
And I've been doing it for 4 days and I'm already better than you
Plus you've been doing it for 5+ years and you never bought a weather balloon or took a trip to Antartica?
So you basically know you're wrong.
To walk out to the non wxistant end of the earth
Just here to rip into your theories for my own gain
Oooo the silence makes me feel victorious.
Well if any1 else wants to tango I have actual points and proof that the Earth indeed must be a beautiful sphere. Best part is I use facts that a 9 year old would understand so everyone can be educated :D
Also yeah I find it halarious that I know more than adults and I'm not even otta HS yet
Also practicing debate is fun :D
Oh well now I want some milk and cookies
C'mon Mike entertain me with you endless knowlage
I wanna be enlightened on our giant pancake world
And our kitchen floor sceince
I thought you were gonna get more heated and use poorly made insults when I throw legitimate points at ur weak facts
(Idk how it's spelled)
You ever play jumprope with ur intestines?
Is spanky some kinds kink name to you cuz idk if I'm comfortable with that
Well I assume there is a curve considering it's just a blank image
There is literally a curve in that image
Yeah the table is round, but know what else is cool, if the table was the earth then you'd see the end of the Earth as well
So either you're disproving yourself or you're disproving yourself
Just stoppp you cant win a battle when you lost before you began
Either that or present e v i d e n c e
Gimme a pic of the end of the earth
Or a pic of flat Earth from space
Lol, 10000 years ago the Earth has a battle with a giant hydraulic press and lost
If earth is flat shouldn't shovels be weapons of mass destruction?
Why do NONE of y'all have discord pics
I can't keep up with who is who
Will do UUuuuUuUmmmMmMmmMmmkaaaaAAaaaaYYyyyyYyYyy
Btw are you a male or female?
If earth is flat then why can't I dig to bottom?
If earth is flat why am I allowed to own a plane that I could fly off of the edge?
If earth is flat then why has no one discovered it?
@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ how can you be a FE and Hollow earther at the same time?
<@294656214623846401> If you want I have a bunch of legit points that require a minimum IQ of 10 to understand. Basically just simple facts that nobody could interperet wrong or disprove because it just uses common sense.
All the points being to show you that the Earth is obviously a sphere.
<@294656214623846401> If it is flat tell me how we have no pics of the end
So ur saying the government has the means of guarding the boarder of the entire planet?
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