Only a little bit would be hidden according to the graph

Which is exactly what happens in the photo and video

does that say 553 km? am I missing something?

Again, how much refraction there was in the video and photos is impossible to guess, in just saying that it would theoretically be possible

I cranked the refraction up to 0.99999 and that's what it gave me

but we're talking 10-20km range

But the main thing i wanted to show was the graph

Yeah I know, I typed that in

then it's irrelevant

All I'm trying to say, is that with enough refraction it's a very reasonable distance

no. it's not.

Sure

at that distance it would be insignificant

How come

because it's a very tiny effect, esp at 10km

Well apparently not, cause with enough refraction you can theoretically see 553km away

You read it yourself

Of course it's not a realistic scenario

But it goes to show that 10.10miles is very reasonable

I'm not trying to start a fight btw, I know it's hard to sense the tone of the person over text 👀

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The people who took the black swan picture should've also measured the refractive index, that would've been a complete crusher. It's still a pretty strong argument nonetheless.

Rumpus said theres no geometric horizon 😉

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That Shahzwar Bugti video is laughable. Obviously has no knowledge of the thing they're trying to debunk.

I gotta agree with you there, Pit. I thought it was a parody at first.

If you told me it was, i'd believe you

Also, @Logrian if you run those numbers in the refraction equation you find those conditions are on the extreme end for refraction. I.e. those conditions are ideal for viewing the distant rig.

Okay i have a question
I've heard it stated a while ago that the flat earth is constantly accelerating upwards, and that's why things fall. Does anyone even believe that now?

That's their main theory

Problem with that is you'll have accelerated to light speed within a year

What

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It's a constant

9.8m/s

Constant acceleration

9.81 m/s /s

So you acccelerate 9.81 m/s per second

Ah I see, I interpreteded the way it would work in a flat Earth wrong

I thought the earth just moved up with the speed of 9.8m/s, but that would mean objects wouldn't accelerate when falling down, my bad

Ah yeah, I can see the confusion

So that just makes their model more confusing

If it was a constant speed, then there would be no force

They can't seem to accept to be on a globe that's rotating very fast, but they accept being on a flat disk accelerating endlessly

Apparently

and, indeed, faster than light speed

True

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Even using the creationist age of the Earth that's still 6-8 thousand times faster than light speed

Never thought of that

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Or in other words "1000 mph spin is far too fast and unreasonable! Much more realistic to just be travelling upwards at 5000000000000 mph!"

Lmao, I see the logic

Also, another thing I've thought of, they say things seem to disappear the farther away they go due to perspective, but what if you have a helicopter far away that you can clearly see. It's not moving towards you or away from you, but it's landing and it disappears behind the horizon

I don't think that explanation of perspective would work

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1) Debunked many times. Just beacause you state you're 'taking into account other effects' does not mean you have.
2) Refraction over water.
3) Out of focus.

Does the video imply the moon emits it's own light?

I'm confused

Does anyone else believe that the world is a decagon? It makes sense when you think about it also hi guys i'm new here

I recommend people make the primary observations instead of regurgitating their beliefs in secondary information @Pit Droid 😴
+ I don't preach beliefs, I am asking to compare results to reduce the false variables @Trixxle 🕵
It's good to be a "globe skeptic" with an open mind @Retro Gaming Central 🤔

i believe that the moon is a hologram and bees can't fly

thanks

Well, props for actually doing experiments anyway, I respect that @Howard George Stirrup

Did not notice it was your own video

i mean how can bees fly.According to all known laws of aviation,there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Anyways as i was saying the earth is a triangle

Oh god

I respect the meme knowledge but I don't think this is the place

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i'm just kidding the earth is a sphere and alabama doesn't exist thats my genuine theory to some extent though the world could be a triangle but i am not sure

kind of looking for answers

i would appreciate some theories/clarification

The earth is round

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@Howard George Stirrup In which case I give more constructive feedback.
2) We'd need the temperature, exact height, temperature gradient, pressure yadda yadda to test the level of refraction. Usually you would expect a large amount of refraction over water or ice, as you expect the temperature to increase vertically, as well as vary steeply from the water surface. From your video, it looks like there may be significant distortion generally in the atmosphere, though this is harder to claim as the resolution of the zoomed in footage is poor (though also could be from the atmosphere).
3) Is definitely out of focus/another example of seeing atmospherc 'boiling'. Again, due to the atmosphere being a variable place.

The earth is round

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whats going on?

the world is a donut shape @!Munnerfied

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damn

Anyone else?

no

not that i can see anyways

you were saying pit droid

the earth isn't round pal,round is too vague that could be round and flat. Now i would say the earth is a sphere which is the correct term

1) Is a weird one. I find this hard to debunk as I really don't understand the logic in the first place other than some things are hot, while others are cold. There is a host of evidence that moonlight is a reflection of sunlight. You can look at the spectra of both. When measuring the moonlight temperature you cannot just point at stuff here and there outside. The temperature of the atmosphere/what was there in the day/clouds/whatever/wind throws in so many unaccounted variables besides radiative effects that realistically you need a vacuum and a lab.

i honestly believe the earth is a sphere although i am on this server to hear what the flat earthers think,my mate Boris thinks the world is flat and healthcare is not real so i wanna know why

whats the theory behind the world being flat?

Here is the full version with more detailed information and more evidence to support my claim the we are being lied to @Pit Droid For the umpteenth time "Globe lie", not preaching models ffs @Retro Gaming Central @!Munnerfied YT#3545 @Trixxle
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hey pal i just wanna learn

please give me a chance

i am more of a round person myself but i wanna convert to the flat culture,could someone please explain it? im not joking

if not i will leave

which is fine

Please watch the 15 minute documentary I just shared, it gives many good explanations to your concerns @Retro Gaming Central 👍🏼

ok thanks 🌎

@Howard George Stirrup So I watched most of it, I will say we disagree on several points. Particularly the concept of FE and i'll stick to that pointer in this server

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Bug wall

Small wall

Medium sized wall

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its a google doc link

prolly looks sus

hey everyone

yo

the flat earth isnt real

that simple

someone explain the physics of it to me

They have lots of different things that somewhat work but i still am yet to see a single model that shows everything that is happening to earth at once

What I've learned is there's no definitive model of FE that all agree upon with the exception that it is flat. Some have different understandings of what globers consider celestial bodies to be, what's going on subsurface, other implications relative to religion/philosophy/conspiracy - it's a very diverse community.

I understand that its very diverse but for the flat earth to exist at all there has to be a model describing how every phenomena we experience is happening on a flat earth, for example if you cant describe the coreolis effect and seasons at the same time then how is it actually happening in the real world.

Phenomenon can occur without our understanding though right?

In specific cases i guess but the ones that happen on earth can easily be explained by a globe model but not so much my an FE model

forget about models

can we measure curvature or not?

yep

the ancient greeks did it

and we now have satellites which have confirmed the size of the earth

the horizon

the radio horizon

Yeah people have been measuring curvature since atleast 200 B.C

Thats probably off by many years but weve been doing this for a long time

actualy my guess was suprisingly close lmao we first calculated curvature in 240 B.C

hopefully we aren't talking about Eratosthenes

His calculation assumes Earth is a sphere

and to date nobody can send me ONE publication in a peer-reviewed journal showing direct measurement of Earth's curvature

I've looked myself of course in the scientific literature database

and couldn't find one

if we had that, we could simply read the Methods section, replicate, and this all would have died 5 yrs ago

but still waiting

Sorry i cant browse the internet at light speed

Coming from the man called Flat Earth "PhD"

I have a PhD

Chemistry

And thats very cool, i actually love chemistry. but has nothing to do with flat earth and never said you didnt have a PhD

so I had access to databases like SCI

which I also used to search for studies involving microgravity that cited the ISS in the Methods section

so you do beilieve that gravity exist>

?

I know that things fall down at 9.8m/s^2

And what causes this then

I don't know. No cause has ever been proven.

but it's irrelevant to me

the cause I mean

bcs it's not likely something I will ever be able to test/prove myself

So your saying that no one knows why things fall down?

I say no. originally it was mass-attracting-mass right. now it's space-time

neither have been proven

but it's irrelevant

if it's mass, so what. it's not mutually exclusive to a flat-surfaced earth

and doesn't impact the fact that all attempts to measure curvature, fail

it's a red herring

So you think that gravity just doesnt exist?

stop trolling

first and last warning

Im not trolling im really just trying to learn

I'm not stupid

Im not trying to troll lol im just saying what i think on the topic and i want to learn from another perspective

right

Why is asking a simple question trolling though

If i was trying to troll

i would be saying anoyying things like "Wow everyone here is crazy you guys are so dumb for beiliving flat earth"

Just trying to learn something new is all

flat earthers are the scientists. Heliocentrists the religious ones. the irony.....

Im not religious in any way but ok

you are if you believe Earth is a spinning ball flying through space

it's a religious belief. because no data support it

Yet no data supports flat earth

This convo deviated quickly

all data support flat surfaced earth

Ok name something

https://fecore.org/project/laser-experiment/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MPNrWv47M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2GJ4sGzTwk

I'll stop there.

Ok well let me take it one at a time

👍

take all the time you need

And i dont want to troll or anything

I've been looking at this for 6yrs

Ok so acorrding to you guys

Flight paths on a flat earth would be very curved right

kinda like this wait

forget flight paths

we have no accurate flat earth map

or at least, I don't have any map that I would trust

How does everyone navigate consistently?

In your view

Aperently they take a very curved path over the oceaon

i had a picture to describe what i mean

give me a sec

theres no curve 😉

that's what I said that I don't have an accurate map

I think you guys dont understand how large the earth is

you dont

like as if it were the size of a basket ball

^^

but pls tell me

how large is it>?

yes tell us the size and how it was measured

go

why can you not answer

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