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2020-03-05 18:17:13 UTC

Only a little bit would be hidden according to the graph

2020-03-05 18:17:22 UTC

Which is exactly what happens in the photo and video

2020-03-05 18:18:38 UTC

does that say 553 km? am I missing something?

2020-03-05 18:18:45 UTC

Again, how much refraction there was in the video and photos is impossible to guess, in just saying that it would theoretically be possible

2020-03-05 18:19:30 UTC

I cranked the refraction up to 0.99999 and that's what it gave me

2020-03-05 18:19:41 UTC

but we're talking 10-20km range

2020-03-05 18:19:44 UTC

But the main thing i wanted to show was the graph

2020-03-05 18:19:51 UTC

Yeah I know, I typed that in

2020-03-05 18:19:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685189877528002609/Screenshot_20200305-181619.png

2020-03-05 18:20:18 UTC

then it's irrelevant

2020-03-05 18:20:27 UTC

All I'm trying to say, is that with enough refraction it's a very reasonable distance

2020-03-05 18:20:34 UTC

no. it's not.

2020-03-05 18:20:39 UTC

Sure

2020-03-05 18:20:47 UTC

at that distance it would be insignificant

2020-03-05 18:20:55 UTC

How come

2020-03-05 18:21:10 UTC

because it's a very tiny effect, esp at 10km

2020-03-05 18:23:28 UTC

Well apparently not, cause with enough refraction you can theoretically see 553km away

2020-03-05 18:23:32 UTC

You read it yourself

2020-03-05 18:23:42 UTC

Of course it's not a realistic scenario

2020-03-05 18:24:10 UTC

But it goes to show that 10.10miles is very reasonable

2020-03-05 18:25:00 UTC

I'm not trying to start a fight btw, I know it's hard to sense the tone of the person over text πŸ‘€

2020-03-05 19:41:47 UTC

2020-03-05 19:42:22 UTC

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2020-03-05 19:42:43 UTC

Allah is fake

2020-03-05 19:44:28 UTC

Do you like pink banana?

2020-03-05 19:45:05 UTC

πŸ‘‰πŸ‘ŒπŸΏ

2020-03-05 19:48:06 UTC

!mute @mangiabambini sexual trolling in <#484516084846952451>

2020-03-05 19:48:07 UTC

2020-03-05 21:28:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685237385965207719/Geometric_horizon.png

2020-03-05 21:29:07 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685237484845793334/Ice_Lake.png

2020-03-05 21:29:18 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685237528877596683/Ice_Lake_2.png

2020-03-05 21:38:12 UTC

The people who took the black swan picture should've also measured the refractive index, that would've been a complete crusher. It's still a pretty strong argument nonetheless.

2020-03-05 21:41:43 UTC

Rumpus said theres no geometric horizon πŸ˜‰

2020-03-05 21:42:04 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685240745631809575/Screenshot_2020-02-05-07-29-352.png

2020-03-05 22:06:23 UTC

We no longer have the time to explain everything to you as if you're a child. We have compilations of research made for people like you. Either dig in and be redpilled, or argue more and be bluepilled. Either way stop wasting our time.
lukethiel.com
tinyurl.com/truthfolder
pastebin.com/JEgNBSBi

2020-03-05 22:32:32 UTC

you have a website?

2020-03-05 22:32:34 UTC

sick

2020-03-05 23:10:52 UTC

That Shahzwar Bugti video is laughable. Obviously has no knowledge of the thing they're trying to debunk.

2020-03-05 23:17:12 UTC

I gotta agree with you there, Pit. I thought it was a parody at first.

2020-03-05 23:17:54 UTC

If you told me it was, i'd believe you

2020-03-05 23:48:48 UTC

Also, @Logrian if you run those numbers in the refraction equation you find those conditions are on the extreme end for refraction. I.e. those conditions are ideal for viewing the distant rig.

2020-03-06 00:03:33 UTC

Okay i have a question
I've heard it stated a while ago that the flat earth is constantly accelerating upwards, and that's why things fall. Does anyone even believe that now?

2020-03-06 00:06:15 UTC

That's their main theory

2020-03-06 00:14:09 UTC

Problem with that is you'll have accelerated to light speed within a year

2020-03-06 00:22:15 UTC

What

2020-03-06 00:22:16 UTC

<:kirbo:677658524289073152>

2020-03-06 00:22:21 UTC

It's a constant

2020-03-06 00:22:45 UTC

9.8m/s

2020-03-06 00:23:04 UTC

Constant acceleration

2020-03-06 00:23:11 UTC

9.81 m/s /s

2020-03-06 00:23:22 UTC

So you acccelerate 9.81 m/s per second

2020-03-06 00:24:35 UTC

Ah I see, I interpreteded the way it would work in a flat Earth wrong

2020-03-06 00:25:18 UTC

I thought the earth just moved up with the speed of 9.8m/s, but that would mean objects wouldn't accelerate when falling down, my bad

2020-03-06 00:25:34 UTC

Ah yeah, I can see the confusion

2020-03-06 00:25:54 UTC

So that just makes their model more confusing

2020-03-06 00:26:02 UTC

If it was a constant speed, then there would be no force

2020-03-06 00:26:30 UTC

They can't seem to accept to be on a globe that's rotating very fast, but they accept being on a flat disk accelerating endlessly

2020-03-06 00:26:39 UTC

Apparently

2020-03-06 00:27:14 UTC

and, indeed, faster than light speed

2020-03-06 00:27:26 UTC

True

2020-03-06 00:27:31 UTC

<:confused:625494374402228244>

2020-03-06 00:28:31 UTC

Even using the creationist age of the Earth that's still 6-8 thousand times faster than light speed

2020-03-06 00:29:19 UTC

Never thought of that

2020-03-06 00:29:46 UTC

<:smart:484956754489376781>

2020-03-06 00:33:52 UTC

Or in other words "1000 mph spin is far too fast and unreasonable! Much more realistic to just be travelling upwards at 5000000000000 mph!"

2020-03-06 00:34:10 UTC

Lmao, I see the logic

2020-03-06 00:35:43 UTC

Also, another thing I've thought of, they say things seem to disappear the farther away they go due to perspective, but what if you have a helicopter far away that you can clearly see. It's not moving towards you or away from you, but it's landing and it disappears behind the horizon

2020-03-06 00:36:21 UTC

I don't think that explanation of perspective would work

2020-03-06 00:36:36 UTC

<:goose:625498032036642847>

2020-03-06 00:37:13 UTC

Sci-Fi...Gone in 60 seconds πŸ•΅
https://youtu.be/oGuEMG5Cnyw

2020-03-06 00:39:54 UTC

1) Debunked many times. Just beacause you state you're 'taking into account other effects' does not mean you have.
2) Refraction over water.
3) Out of focus.

2020-03-06 00:40:32 UTC

Does the video imply the moon emits it's own light?

2020-03-06 00:41:27 UTC

I'm confused

2020-03-06 00:42:29 UTC

Does anyone else believe that the world is a decagon? It makes sense when you think about it also hi guys i'm new here

2020-03-06 00:46:55 UTC

I recommend people make the primary observations instead of regurgitating their beliefs in secondary information @Pit Droid 😴
+ I don't preach beliefs, I am asking to compare results to reduce the false variables @Trixxle πŸ•΅
It's good to be a "globe skeptic" with an open mind @Retro Gaming Central πŸ€”

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685287262040358917/IMG_20191219_202214.jpg

2020-03-06 00:47:40 UTC

i believe that the moon is a hologram and bees can't fly

2020-03-06 00:47:57 UTC

thanks

2020-03-06 00:48:20 UTC

Well, props for actually doing experiments anyway, I respect that @Howard George Stirrup

2020-03-06 00:48:31 UTC

Did not notice it was your own video

2020-03-06 00:49:41 UTC

i mean how can bees fly.According to all known laws of aviation,there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Anyways as i was saying the earth is a triangle

2020-03-06 00:49:53 UTC

Oh god

2020-03-06 00:50:29 UTC

I respect the meme knowledge but I don't think this is the place

2020-03-06 00:50:30 UTC

<:confused:625494374402228244>

2020-03-06 00:51:18 UTC

i'm just kidding the earth is a sphere and alabama doesn't exist thats my genuine theory to some extent though the world could be a triangle but i am not sure

2020-03-06 00:51:24 UTC

kind of looking for answers

2020-03-06 00:51:59 UTC

i would appreciate some theories/clarification

2020-03-06 00:54:22 UTC

The earth is round

2020-03-06 00:55:11 UTC

<@&633490916539236362>

2020-03-06 00:55:12 UTC

@Howard George Stirrup In which case I give more constructive feedback.
2) We'd need the temperature, exact height, temperature gradient, pressure yadda yadda to test the level of refraction. Usually you would expect a large amount of refraction over water or ice, as you expect the temperature to increase vertically, as well as vary steeply from the water surface. From your video, it looks like there may be significant distortion generally in the atmosphere, though this is harder to claim as the resolution of the zoomed in footage is poor (though also could be from the atmosphere).
3) Is definitely out of focus/another example of seeing atmospherc 'boiling'. Again, due to the atmosphere being a variable place.

2020-03-06 00:55:16 UTC

The earth is round

2020-03-06 00:55:42 UTC

🌍

2020-03-06 00:55:54 UTC

🌎

2020-03-06 00:55:59 UTC

🌏

2020-03-06 00:56:06 UTC

whats going on?

2020-03-06 00:56:50 UTC

the world is a donut shape @!Munnerfied

2020-03-06 00:56:57 UTC

!mute @!Munnerfied Mass-Ping Troll

2020-03-06 00:56:57 UTC

2020-03-06 00:57:03 UTC

damn

2020-03-06 00:57:07 UTC

Anyone else?

2020-03-06 00:57:10 UTC

no

2020-03-06 00:57:33 UTC

not that i can see anyways

2020-03-06 00:57:39 UTC

you were saying pit droid

2020-03-06 00:58:58 UTC

the earth isn't round pal,round is too vague that could be round and flat. Now i would say the earth is a sphere which is the correct term

2020-03-06 00:59:00 UTC

1) Is a weird one. I find this hard to debunk as I really don't understand the logic in the first place other than some things are hot, while others are cold. There is a host of evidence that moonlight is a reflection of sunlight. You can look at the spectra of both. When measuring the moonlight temperature you cannot just point at stuff here and there outside. The temperature of the atmosphere/what was there in the day/clouds/whatever/wind throws in so many unaccounted variables besides radiative effects that realistically you need a vacuum and a lab.

2020-03-06 01:01:58 UTC

i honestly believe the earth is a sphere although i am on this server to hear what the flat earthers think,my mate Boris thinks the world is flat and healthcare is not real so i wanna know why

2020-03-06 01:02:25 UTC

whats the theory behind the world being flat?

2020-03-06 01:04:28 UTC

Here is the full version with more detailed information and more evidence to support my claim the we are being lied to @Pit Droid For the umpteenth time "Globe lie", not preaching models ffs @Retro Gaming Central @!Munnerfied YT#3545 @Trixxle
https://youtu.be/aToUFRzeIRM

2020-03-06 01:04:53 UTC

hey pal i just wanna learn

2020-03-06 01:04:57 UTC

please give me a chance

2020-03-06 01:07:01 UTC

i am more of a round person myself but i wanna convert to the flat culture,could someone please explain it? im not joking

2020-03-06 01:07:10 UTC

if not i will leave

2020-03-06 01:07:19 UTC

which is fine

2020-03-06 01:11:04 UTC

Please watch the 15 minute documentary I just shared, it gives many good explanations to your concerns @Retro Gaming Central πŸ‘πŸΌ

2020-03-06 01:11:30 UTC

ok thanks 🌎

2020-03-06 01:20:30 UTC

@Howard George Stirrup So I watched most of it, I will say we disagree on several points. Particularly the concept of FE and i'll stick to that pointer in this server

2020-03-06 01:20:50 UTC

Wall

2020-03-06 01:26:47 UTC

ok

2020-03-06 01:29:19 UTC

Bug wall

2020-03-06 01:29:24 UTC

Small wall

2020-03-06 01:29:36 UTC

Medium sized wall

2020-03-06 03:42:47 UTC

hey

2020-03-06 03:42:54 UTC

im running a survey on climate change

2020-03-06 03:42:58 UTC

plz answet

2020-03-06 03:45:05 UTC

Uh

2020-03-06 03:45:12 UTC

I don’t trust dat

2020-03-06 03:47:49 UTC

st anger is the best album

2020-03-06 03:47:53 UTC
2020-03-06 03:48:05 UTC

What

2020-03-06 03:48:10 UTC

Oh

2020-03-06 03:48:17 UTC

st anger is the best metallica album

2020-03-06 03:48:23 UTC

Ye ye

2020-03-06 03:48:28 UTC

YEAH YEAH

2020-03-06 03:48:29 UTC

I thought u we’re talking about your link

2020-03-06 03:48:32 UTC

nah

2020-03-06 03:48:35 UTC

**YEAH YEAH**

2020-03-06 03:48:43 UTC

its a google doc link

2020-03-06 03:48:49 UTC

2020-03-06 03:48:57 UTC

prolly looks sus

2020-03-06 04:00:05 UTC

hey everyone

2020-03-06 04:04:21 UTC

yo

2020-03-06 04:04:30 UTC

the flat earth isnt real

2020-03-06 04:04:35 UTC

that simple

2020-03-06 04:04:58 UTC

someone explain the physics of it to me

2020-03-06 04:11:39 UTC

They have lots of different things that somewhat work but i still am yet to see a single model that shows everything that is happening to earth at once

2020-03-06 04:19:59 UTC

What I've learned is there's no definitive model of FE that all agree upon with the exception that it is flat. Some have different understandings of what globers consider celestial bodies to be, what's going on subsurface, other implications relative to religion/philosophy/conspiracy - it's a very diverse community.

2020-03-06 04:32:02 UTC

I understand that its very diverse but for the flat earth to exist at all there has to be a model describing how every phenomena we experience is happening on a flat earth, for example if you cant describe the coreolis effect and seasons at the same time then how is it actually happening in the real world.

2020-03-06 05:26:50 UTC

Phenomenon can occur without our understanding though right?

2020-03-06 05:29:55 UTC

In specific cases i guess but the ones that happen on earth can easily be explained by a globe model but not so much my an FE model

2020-03-06 05:43:12 UTC

forget about models

2020-03-06 05:43:21 UTC

can we measure curvature or not?

2020-03-06 05:45:57 UTC

yep

2020-03-06 05:46:18 UTC

the ancient greeks did it

2020-03-06 05:46:46 UTC

and we now have satellites which have confirmed the size of the earth

2020-03-06 05:46:55 UTC

the horizon

2020-03-06 05:47:03 UTC

the radio horizon

2020-03-06 05:55:31 UTC

Yeah people have been measuring curvature since atleast 200 B.C

2020-03-06 05:56:15 UTC

Thats probably off by many years but weve been doing this for a long time

2020-03-06 05:57:44 UTC

actualy my guess was suprisingly close lmao we first calculated curvature in 240 B.C

2020-03-06 06:03:21 UTC

hopefully we aren't talking about Eratosthenes

2020-03-06 06:03:36 UTC

His calculation assumes Earth is a sphere

2020-03-06 06:04:11 UTC

and to date nobody can send me ONE publication in a peer-reviewed journal showing direct measurement of Earth's curvature

2020-03-06 06:04:27 UTC

I've looked myself of course in the scientific literature database

2020-03-06 06:04:34 UTC

and couldn't find one

2020-03-06 06:06:27 UTC

if we had that, we could simply read the Methods section, replicate, and this all would have died 5 yrs ago

2020-03-06 06:07:04 UTC

but still waiting

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685367832099160093/530e4dfe63551dc0d0895c128fd41010.png

2020-03-06 06:07:30 UTC

Sorry i cant browse the internet at light speed

2020-03-06 06:07:44 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685367999196430375/3dsv3d.jpg

2020-03-06 06:08:19 UTC

Coming from the man called Flat Earth "PhD"

2020-03-06 06:08:25 UTC

I have a PhD

2020-03-06 06:08:28 UTC

Chemistry

2020-03-06 06:09:15 UTC

And thats very cool, i actually love chemistry. but has nothing to do with flat earth and never said you didnt have a PhD

2020-03-06 06:09:20 UTC

so I had access to databases like SCI

2020-03-06 06:09:43 UTC

which I also used to search for studies involving microgravity that cited the ISS in the Methods section

2020-03-06 06:10:39 UTC

so you do beilieve that gravity exist>

2020-03-06 06:10:50 UTC

?

2020-03-06 06:11:09 UTC

I know that things fall down at 9.8m/s^2

2020-03-06 06:11:27 UTC

And what causes this then

2020-03-06 06:11:50 UTC

I don't know. No cause has ever been proven.

2020-03-06 06:11:57 UTC

but it's irrelevant to me

2020-03-06 06:12:04 UTC

the cause I mean

2020-03-06 06:12:21 UTC

bcs it's not likely something I will ever be able to test/prove myself

2020-03-06 06:12:33 UTC

So your saying that no one knows why things fall down?

2020-03-06 06:13:01 UTC

I say no. originally it was mass-attracting-mass right. now it's space-time

2020-03-06 06:13:08 UTC

neither have been proven

2020-03-06 06:13:18 UTC

but it's irrelevant

2020-03-06 06:13:37 UTC

if it's mass, so what. it's not mutually exclusive to a flat-surfaced earth

2020-03-06 06:13:58 UTC

and doesn't impact the fact that all attempts to measure curvature, fail

2020-03-06 06:14:03 UTC

it's a red herring

2020-03-06 06:15:17 UTC

So you think that gravity just doesnt exist?

2020-03-06 06:15:26 UTC

stop trolling

2020-03-06 06:15:31 UTC

first and last warning

2020-03-06 06:15:40 UTC

Im not trolling im really just trying to learn

2020-03-06 06:15:43 UTC

I'm not stupid

2020-03-06 06:16:07 UTC

Im not trying to troll lol im just saying what i think on the topic and i want to learn from another perspective

2020-03-06 06:16:18 UTC

right

2020-03-06 06:16:43 UTC

Why is asking a simple question trolling though

2020-03-06 06:17:00 UTC

If i was trying to troll

2020-03-06 06:17:25 UTC

i would be saying anoyying things like "Wow everyone here is crazy you guys are so dumb for beiliving flat earth"

2020-03-06 06:18:03 UTC

Just trying to learn something new is all

2020-03-06 06:18:24 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685370683613642821/FB_IMG_1571279062448.jpg

2020-03-06 06:19:43 UTC

flat earthers are the scientists. Heliocentrists the religious ones. the irony.....

2020-03-06 06:20:08 UTC

Im not religious in any way but ok

2020-03-06 06:20:26 UTC

you are if you believe Earth is a spinning ball flying through space

2020-03-06 06:20:44 UTC

it's a religious belief. because no data support it

2020-03-06 06:20:54 UTC

Yet no data supports flat earth

2020-03-06 06:21:08 UTC

This convo deviated quickly

2020-03-06 06:21:15 UTC

all data support flat surfaced earth

2020-03-06 06:21:31 UTC

Ok name something

2020-03-06 06:21:59 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685371584189300764/20190109_065834-1.jpg

2020-03-06 06:22:06 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685371614954651706/black_swan.jpg

2020-03-06 06:22:10 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685371629311623228/Modus_Tollens.PNG

2020-03-06 06:22:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685371757724696603/weather_balloon_120k_feet.PNG

2020-03-06 06:23:37 UTC

I'll stop there.

2020-03-06 06:24:32 UTC

Ok well let me take it one at a time

2020-03-06 06:24:47 UTC

πŸ‘

2020-03-06 06:24:52 UTC

take all the time you need

2020-03-06 06:24:58 UTC

And i dont want to troll or anything

2020-03-06 06:25:01 UTC

I've been looking at this for 6yrs

2020-03-06 06:25:12 UTC

Ok so acorrding to you guys

2020-03-06 06:25:59 UTC

Flight paths on a flat earth would be very curved right

2020-03-06 06:26:04 UTC

kinda like this wait

2020-03-06 06:26:18 UTC

forget flight paths

2020-03-06 06:26:29 UTC

we have no accurate flat earth map

2020-03-06 06:26:45 UTC

or at least, I don't have any map that I would trust

2020-03-06 06:27:26 UTC

How does everyone navigate consistently?

2020-03-06 06:27:46 UTC

In your view

2020-03-06 06:28:15 UTC

Aperently they take a very curved path over the oceaon

2020-03-06 06:28:32 UTC

i had a picture to describe what i mean

2020-03-06 06:28:35 UTC

give me a sec

2020-03-06 06:29:38 UTC

theres no curve πŸ˜‰

2020-03-06 06:29:44 UTC

that's what I said that I don't have an accurate map

2020-03-06 06:29:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685373568191954955/flat-earth-funny-memes-36-5b33891b0b3fd__700.png

2020-03-06 06:30:10 UTC

I think you guys dont understand how large the earth is

2020-03-06 06:30:17 UTC

you dont

2020-03-06 06:30:19 UTC

like as if it were the size of a basket ball

2020-03-06 06:30:19 UTC

^^

2020-03-06 06:30:24 UTC

but pls tell me

2020-03-06 06:30:30 UTC

how large is it>?

2020-03-06 06:30:33 UTC

yes tell us the size and how it was measured

2020-03-06 06:30:36 UTC

go

2020-03-06 06:30:49 UTC

why can you not answer

2020-03-06 06:31:00 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/685373853752754196/3dsv3d.jpg

2020-03-06 06:31:19 UTC

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2020-03-06 06:31:20 UTC

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2020-03-06 06:31:24 UTC

Now the trolling begins

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