Alright, @shiro has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

Try using it

Challenge yourself

The church made the globe

You think the globe would be allowed if the church didn't sanction it

Dude the earth is round

@Deleted User not an argument

Just your belief

the church made the globe?

how! its the opposite

all religions teach fe

only science doesnt

Huh

Wrong

Look into your belief system

You seem lazy

@shiro catholicism is just Paganism with a "Roman Catholic "stamp of approval" on it, smh

assumptions and insults..very civil

How do you explain the curve from the tall buidings. How do you explain eratosthenes or Pythagoras’s expirements on the earth cirucumference?

i dont like catholics but i didnt mention it either*?

@Deleted User - Dude, ..this COIN i have in my pocket is round too
__Flat and round_ <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> 👍

Insults? Youre the one who said you cant do 3rd grade math.

@shiro ? you mentioned "the church"

I didn’t insult you.

i said that all religions teach fe and science round earth so u called me lazy LOL

@Deleted User pythagoras experiments? Like?

@Deleted User eratosthenes assumed the earth was a globe

@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ theres more then just one religion fyi

no shiz

@Deleted User there is no curve from tall buildings. Dunno what you are talking about.

@shiro "Vatican" controls it all pretty though, m'kay

and, ..while you're at it, ..go ask them about their favo "telescope" acronym "lucifer" ..

Pythagoras well experiment and Eratosthenes stick and shadow excitement

Experiment*

the vatican controls all religions? hahahahaha

You guys dont even know how your own belief system works

Gravity is also exist

Not and argument

@Deleted User pythagoras well experiment?

An*

Yes

@Deleted User can you show me the data and info on pythagoras well experiment?

@shiro -- you.l...saiod.. ."the church" ...all taught "FE" ...excpet for "science" according to you.
-- I SAID .."catholicism is just Paganism with a "Roman Catholic "stamp of approval" on it, smh

--what part is hard to understand here??

why are you talking about catholics? i clearly said all religions

The heliocentric model was an ancient Babylonian lucifarian-belief that was funded by pagan sun-worshipers, and supported by the church of satan and the occult. The astronomers were Jesuit priests, and even today, space is controlled by Nasa and the Vatican.


The Vatican owns the most Telescopes in the world, and have longer than anyone.including their favorite telescope .. "l.u.c.i.f.e.r." pfft→ [LARGE bINOCULAR tELESCOPE nEAR-iNFRARED UTILITY with CAMERA and INTEGRAL FIELD-uNIT for EXTRAGALACTIC RESEARCH]

https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html

@shiro religions believe its a globe

insanity

@Citizen Z which religions???

There his expirment

Religions indoctrinate ppl into the globe

which religions?

and ..most all of them "high priests" (scientists) of yore, ..were all "religious" Too

@Deleted User that says nothing about pythagoras well experiment. Nothing about an experiment period. Its just am observation.

The sun isn’t above the earth

Observations are not experiments

He had a hypothesis based on an observation. That’s exactly what an expirement is

all i see is conspiracies and rhetorical vagueness. dangerous mix

Its not an experiment

Its an observation

Lol

@Deleted User k i did a selenelion experiment. Proves earth not a globe.

Scientist create a hypothesis based on testing there hypothesis. They either adjust there hypothesis from there observations to create a theory.

@evil chicken many places. Some on my own. Some from books. Some from internet

That’s how science works

Not an experiment

Ok. Suuuuuure

Also you image shows the sun above the earth

Which is plane wrong

That's what we see actually

You are plain wrong.

😂

You dont know much @Deleted User

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction

"you are plain wrong. you dont know much"
thought you dont like to assume stuff? @Citizen Z

Thats not an assumption

<:happy:507991686320750592>

lol ok

@shiro he said we dont see the sun above the earth. Lol

No. I said the sun isn’t above the earth.

@Deleted User why are you trying to push your belief system

Two different things.

yea he didnt say what we see

And, what do you think you’re doing?

Lol

You guys serious?

Denying basic science won’t prove you conjectures true.

Im in my server discussing things the server was built to discuss. You on the other hand seem to of joined here on a mission to push your belief system

Its funny

Spinning water ball inside an infinite vacuum

so you expect everyone to think like you?

😂

it doesnt work like that, ofc ppl will ask and disbelief

I dont deny basic science. I accept it.

You believe in pseudoscience

I want to have a conversation. If I wanted to push my belief system I only be saying what I say while trying to silence you.

i do? why do you keep assuming stuff about strangers!

I haven’t once called you names. The same can’t be said for you.

Not assuming. If you believe in the heliocentric model, then you believe in pseudoscience

but you assume my beliefs

<:butthurt:507983822244151306> ❄ @Deleted User

<:happy:507991686320750592>

even tho i told you 2 times i dont believe anything for sure. even my tag is visible

How is it pseudoscience?

Was talking to the other two pseudo scientists here

Dont know eratosthenes experiments if their life depended on it

Thought pythagoras did well experiments

Why do you keep using name calling. I fell I’ve been really respectful.

?*

Think observing an eclipse is an experiment

They have cognitive dissonance

Depends what you do with those observations to prove.

Unable to look at new information

New information?

Selenelion

the process of conducting such a test = an experiment

^

I guarantee you still haven't found out what it is

Observations are not experiments

Show me pythagoras data

You cant

Its a belief system

Dude. People have proven the earth@is round since ancient times. You can retry the expirements yourself.

I use pythagorean theorem to debunk the globe

"i guarantee you still havent found out.." assuming nonstop

Its his math we use to debunk the spinning monkey ball

Pythagorean theorem can’t debunk the globe. Also it Euclidean geometry. We live in a non-Euclidean geometry world.

@shiro selenelion

▬ Sticks and shadows
https://prnt.sc/g84lyc

and---his math/equations ..work the SAME for a close/local sun . and..you can conduct the SAME THING in a small, dark room , ..with a lightbulb on the ceiling, (or handheld "Flashlight) etc--&..some "pens" or something,..on the floor ..

AGAIN THE SUN IS NOT ABOVE THE EARTH.

@Deleted User a² + b² = c²

Simple

Yes. I know

Do the math then

Actual SUN PATH and perspective rise and set ..
http://prntscr.com/g1g0y2

Go check it yourself

But, my point is it’s not non-Euclidean geometry.

@Deleted User the sun is above the earth

NO ITS NOT

@Deleted User show me pythagoras well experiments

😂

You have posted it like twenty times

K you said he did well experiments

Lets see it

But, with an incorrect way

You have been posting it like twenty times

Dude. Youre wasting my time. You have a belief system. You dont even know it correctly. When you figure out what youre talking about we can talk again.

Dude you’ve been saying incredibly incorrect information with nothing to back it up. I have shown my beliefs and sources. He used lunar cycles by and observed the shadow created by the wells.

Also what about my other sources?

@Deleted User k show me his data

Otherwise you are believing in myths

Data? They didn’t have “data”

Do the expirment yourself

Oh so its a belief then

Its not an experiment

Ive looked at lunar eclipses

Data is anything that is measurable

Didnt prove earth was a globe

In expirment al terms at least

Not an experiment

It is

Dude.

K show me his data

Show me what he experimented on

I have everything i need to prove its flat

You have 2000 year old myths

I said he observed lunar cycles. Also you’re right that couldn’t difinitavly proved the earth was round, but later mathematicians like Eratosthene proved the earth was round

Also the same could be said about your theory.

25 mile FE CORE Laser test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTgNyW08_-c&t=1s
pdf - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bV8hCkvT7gRFkoR6J0AY1mDwYfQR7PAg/view

A real experiment

Please dont reply before looking throughly at the experiment.

Get back with me tomorrow.

DUDE. You haven’t even looked at what I said. Just saying it’s wrong because@I don’t have enough “data”. Eratosthenes proved th earth was round threw his own expirment. There is also the fact that large objects can’t be flat as there@gravity forces them to be round. As well as how do you explain lunar cycles. And, others objects being able to be obervably and scientifically able to be proven to be round?

Also, it just has to do with pointing a laser across the lake?

Oh you found the expirment

Good

He didn’t think the earth was 15 miles

https://youtu.be/Mw30CgaXiQw

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

Ive been telling you his experiment is based on assumptions

If you assume the earth is flat it also works

Selenelion

1. He hired someone to find it for him. 2. Is he wrong? 4/5. Not relevant to the expirament

Lol

2000 year old myth

That works on a flat earth

😂

Eratosthenes is the dumbest globe proof ever

Just because it’s 2000 years old doesn’t make is wrong

Also there are other recent reasons why. The discovery of gravity had led to people finding out why large objects are forced into a spherical shape due to there mass.

K show me the experiment for that

More pseudoscience

Lol

Is there an example of a large object being forced into a spherical shape due to its mass anywhere?

Cant show an experiment. Just a belief system.

@numbynumb pseudoscience then

speculative mathematical model idolatry

@Deleted User you sound like vsauce

http://www.thestargarden.co.uk/Newtons-theory-of-gravity.html

no substantial evidence that mass attracts mass

Yeah, we are aware of the theory of gravity

Yeah. It’s called earth.

lol

we dont know why things fall toward the earth. the idea that it's the earth's mass which causes things to fall requires substantiation.

No. It’s proven. Gravity is the reason why. Gravity has diverged in different ways. There are zero gravity airplane rides for example.

Been broken*

Los how do you explain pictures of the earth before photoshop or complex@computers?

Or*

Come into the discord microphone we can talk

Why do you also have a red pill thing

Chatroom*

Zero gravity planes only demonstrate that things fall at a constant rate, not the cause of that falling.

Pictures were faked in darkroom "photoshops" before the means of digital manipulation.

Also sophisticated miniatures & special effects have been employed in the space program from its inception.

"Douglas Trumbull, the industry pioneer behind the special effects of 2001: A Space Odyssey, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and Blade Runner joins post-secondary students and faculty to discuss his remarkable career in visual effects and his own directorial projects.This Higher Learning event was held on December 9, 2010 at TIFF Bell Lightbox." https://youtu.be/FBaZQojd1_s

This guy worked for NASA before being hired by Stanley Kubrick to create special effects for 2001. He describes all of this and the means by which NASA faked its early missions in the video above.

First, do you have any proof that the moon landing was take in a darkroom? Also, specifically affects haven’t been used or were in its infancy at that time. 3 point on zero gravity planes: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travel-truths/how-do-zero-gravity-planes-work-parabolic-flights/amp/

Do you have any proof that it wasn't?

https://incredible-adventures.com/zero-g-how.html

Zero g planes aren't evidence that mass attracts mass. I already accept that things fall at 9.8m/s/s

It’s evidence about the breaking of gravity. I also provided expirements Newton did himself.

Newton himself acknowledge that he didn't know what the cause of gravitation was.

Also you’re saying that NASA’s annual budget was all for nothing?

So?

That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Do you you know what strong force is?

If NASA was willing to lie about their missions, obviously they would also be willing to lie about their budget.

In an atom was keeps the protons together is strong force in an atom. We don’t exactly know why it happens. But, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Their budget report is not a strong argument to support the reality of their missions.

That’s not my only argument. It was a point. Also IT would have been congress who was creating the funding that lies not NASA.

If it was true. Which it isn’t.

That's true, we don't know why atoms stay together. I already said I agree that things fall at the rate Newton measured. But only if it's caused by mass attracting mass would object tend toward sphericity - that's what this argument was originally about.

You don't know for a fact whether it's true or not.

It's a claim that isn't easy to prove or disprove. Personally, I am highly skeptical of it.

Nope. My argument was that matter as it gets bigger will be forced into a physical shape due to the force of gravity forcing it into that shape.

Also who is agent smith

I keep seeing that.

Why would the fact that things fall on earth force objects into spherical shapes?

agent smith is a bot

It’s kinda a long explanation so here: https://theconversation.com/amp/curious-kids-why-is-the-earth-round-80311

Do you really think I'm simply unaware of basic physics?

The point is that you're simply taking experts' word for it rather than demanding tangible and reproducible evidence.

Reproducible evidence? It’s been reproduced thousands of times with each of our planets in our solar system. Also, what better explanation do you have?