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2019-03-27 22:24:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-03-28 02:30:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Is there an example of a large object being forced into a spherical shape due to its mass anywhere?

2019-03-28 02:31:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

speculative mathematical model idolatry

2019-03-28 02:32:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

no substantial evidence that mass attracts mass

2019-03-28 02:32:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah, we are aware of the theory of gravity

2019-03-28 02:32:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

lol

2019-03-28 02:33:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

we dont know why things fall toward the earth. the idea that it's the earth's mass which causes things to fall requires substantiation.

2019-03-28 02:44:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Zero gravity planes only demonstrate that things fall at a constant rate, not the cause of that falling.

2019-03-28 02:45:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Pictures were faked in darkroom "photoshops" before the means of digital manipulation.

2019-03-28 02:46:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Also sophisticated miniatures & special effects have been employed in the space program from its inception.

2019-03-28 02:47:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

"Douglas Trumbull, the industry pioneer behind the special effects of 2001: A Space Odyssey, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and Blade Runner joins post-secondary students and faculty to discuss his remarkable career in visual effects and his own directorial projects.This Higher Learning event was held on December 9, 2010 at TIFF Bell Lightbox." https://youtu.be/FBaZQojd1_s

2019-03-28 02:49:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

This guy worked for NASA before being hired by Stanley Kubrick to create special effects for 2001. He describes all of this and the means by which NASA faked its early missions in the video above.

2019-03-28 02:57:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do you have any proof that it wasn't?

2019-03-28 02:58:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Zero g planes aren't evidence that mass attracts mass. I already accept that things fall at 9.8m/s/s

2019-03-28 02:59:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Newton himself acknowledge that he didn't know what the cause of gravitation was.

2019-03-28 03:01:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If NASA was willing to lie about their missions, obviously they would also be willing to lie about their budget.

2019-03-28 03:02:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Their budget report is not a strong argument to support the reality of their missions.

2019-03-28 03:03:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That's true, we don't know why atoms stay together. I already said I agree that things fall at the rate Newton measured. But only if it's caused by mass attracting mass would object tend toward sphericity - that's what this argument was originally about.

2019-03-28 03:03:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You don't know for a fact whether it's true or not.

2019-03-28 03:04:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's a claim that isn't easy to prove or disprove. Personally, I am highly skeptical of it.

2019-03-28 03:04:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Why would the fact that things fall on earth force objects into spherical shapes?

2019-03-28 03:05:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

agent smith is a bot

2019-03-28 03:11:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do you really think I'm simply unaware of basic physics?

2019-03-28 03:12:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The point is that you're simply taking experts' word for it rather than demanding tangible and reproducible evidence.

2019-03-28 03:14:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

No it hasn't. You are assuming that the movement of the "planets" is caused by the same force that causes things to fall on earth.

2019-03-28 03:14:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That's where the evidence is lacking.

2019-03-28 03:15:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I dont have a better explanation. But my lack of a better explanation is not proof that your speculative mathematics provide one.

2019-03-28 03:16:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I think that the "experiment" used to derive the gravitational constant is bogus.

2019-03-28 03:17:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Without solid evidence of "Big G", the heliocentric model is merely speculative.

2019-03-28 03:20:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The equations are not proof. You have to include a large number of assumptions to arrive at those conclusions.

2019-03-28 03:20:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

bye

2019-03-28 05:07:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

equations are not proof. obviously. what makes you think I dont understand the equations?

2019-03-29 22:32:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

why am i muted?

2019-03-29 22:33:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

like what?

2019-03-29 22:34:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

why am i muted? seriously

2019-03-31 21:42:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

why am i muted

2019-03-31 21:42:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

?

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