vacuum is basically nothing

yep

a rocket, generating its own thrust, would fly in the vacuum

don't think so

thrust needs something to push off of

here, tell me how rockets work

what they do to generate thrust

they are propelling gas out the back end to push it forward

thats all you need to say

in an atmosphere they have something to push off of

and something to push into

which slows down the rocket

in a vacuum they have nothing to push off of

rocket won't move

and nothing to push into

you have a guy with a master's degree in technical physics

telling you it won't move

lol

did you watch the videos I linked?

i saw your example already

i did for a bit

one guy with a MSc > 100% of rocket physicists

just showed a disturbing portrait of a man

this guy has a master's degree in technical physics

let me see

he's telling you it has nothign to push off of, it won't work

and hes wrong

because he apparently doesnt understand rockets

well, the link is up above

lets read newtons third law by quote shall we?

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

maybe we should watch this video and see if he address it

goopy

srry

so if I flap my arms in a vacuum, am I going anywhere?

nope

no medium to propel you up

if I take an oxygen tank in a vacuum and start releasing gas, am I going to move anywhere?

if you let the gas out at a very fast speed and a very high pressure, you're going to fall backwards from the force of the gas ejecting out the tank

if you let it drizzle out nope

nope, won't matter

have you tried it yourself or are you just saying so

you might get thrust but I don't think so, not significant amount

depending on how fast the oxygen comes out ya you might not get much, but you still get it

on the plus side any thrust would be better in a vacuum though

yes it would

because you don't need alot of thrust to move, unlike atmosphere

no air resistance

indeed

you still have the problem of pushing the amount of mass foward

in a vacuum with no air resistance would make it easier

true

but the rocket has to get there first

so it trudges on through the atmosphere

still amount of mass matters because it limits how much thrust you need to generate to move the entire mass, and stop it

the more mass the more thrust

suffice it to say that although it might function some, it wouldn't work enough to land on the moon and take off again, land back on earth

let me find a fun fact real quick

the more mass means the more thrust you need to move it

even in a vacuum

All Apollo missions carried and used around 5,625,000 pounds of propellant in all three modules and the Saturn V launch vehicle. This is for the whole trip, with the greatest amounts being used in the first minutes [to achieve orbital velocity] by the Saturn V rocket.

*thats a lot of propellant*

you don't just have to propel the rocket, you also have to propel all that propellant itself

keep in mind i dont believe in space like the globe earth model says it is or that we went to the moon, im just saying if we were in the ge model it would be possible

the more you take the less opitmal it is

you heard about them losing all their trajectory records?

let me find how heavy the rocket is

3,039,000kg

sounds like fiction to me, 5 million lbs of propellant

yea, I don't beleive that

you know NASA is one of the biggest userse of helium

they put helium in all their sattelites, they are just big high tech balloons

helium is a great way to eject materials out faster and is used in rockets yes

cause outer space is a lie and a false myth

i wouldn't put it that harshly but ya

well, do you really think we landed on the moon on flat earth?

but can we agree if the rocket had over 5.6m pounds of fuel and weighed that much it could reach the said escape velocity?

nope

but if the ge model were true id say yes

no, I don't believe they had that much

do you think it could though if they did have that much?

what they had was enough fuel to crash the rocket into the ocean and pretend to land on the moon on a movie set

i think that too

but im just asking if you think it would have been possible if they did have the fuel

since outer space is completely fake I don't think they really understand how rockets would work in that environment

I don't think it works the way they say it would

we do have that giant vacuum chamber

you know we put someone in a vacuum and they passed out in 1965

we don't even do that anymore

they practice in a swimming pool because that is where the international swimming pool does all its swim walks

well duh they had no oxygen to breath lol

ya

the guy who passed out was in a space suit that didn't work well

well i think if the did have that much fuel they could get to their said moon if it existed

cool

i think thats when they improved the decal of the suits lol

good talk kevin

https://youtu.be/KO8L9tKR4CY

so it was an accident rather than a suit malfunction

huh

I am not enirely cetain what happened but we don't put people in vacuum's anymore

indeed

too dangerous and its not like they are going to space and need to practice for that envirnment

true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5xNxMP5lA

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gravity is fake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIT_SbigQ3c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJZ9sqvH9dY

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rockets don't work in a vacuum

Then how would jets fly high up

doesnt the air get more like a vacuum the higher you go

some jets fly very high

airlinners typically fly at 30,000 feet

there are aircrat that can fly higher, but they have to fly faster to get lift

i mean like military jets

yeah

if a rocket couldnt work in a vacuum wouldnt the jets not work

Jet engines require a medium to run, dont they?

There is a key difference between a rocket and a jet. A rocket doesn't use lift to fly. So an airplane can't work in a vacuum since nothing to push the wings up. A rocket ejects super heated gas backwards, which then push it forward

Also, while not extremely important. A jet engine uses oxygen from the air, while rockets have their own oxygen internally

That last part is key. Rockets bring their own oxygen, while airplanes get it from the air they move through.

that is just fuel of the engines, not how they propel things through the air/stay up

Rockets use pure thrust

yes, and jets use the differnce of air pressure under and over the wing to stay up

Yes

my point, rockets use thrust, while jets use difference in air pressure. thus you can say just because a jet doesnt work in a vacuum doesnt mean a rocket works in a vacuum

Oh thats not what I'm saying

I was thinking that a jet would work in a vacuum

but i guess not?

Idk

Eventually it would not have enough oxygen for injection so no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjiUUJdPGX0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQB1Iw3zJbc

some very basics behind each

Sorry I was referring to a jet engine, not the whole jet.

just not enough stuff to push off of in a vacuum

rockets basically don't work in a vacuum

Why not there's nothing that stopping it

rockets use atmosphere to push off of

No

They don't

throwing gas into nothingness does nothing

Propellers use that

Rocket's are different from propellers

There's a difference between thrust and lift

rockets use propellent in the form of gas thrown out the back end to move forward

ignited gas

this prepellent needs an atmosphere to work to push off of something

otherwise its got no thrust

There's liquid and solid fuel as well

doesn't matter what type of fuel it is

its still propellant that propels the ship forward, and works well in an atmosphere

we can see it working

The amount of thrust can differ based on fuel

in a vacuum, not so much

similiar to a feather that doesn't move at all in a vacuum with a fan blowing on it

not one little bit

a rocket wouldn't move in a vacuum

There's a difference between a fan and a rocket

not when it comes to the medium

Rocket used to thrust to lift it upwards

same medium, same phenomenon

No

https://youtu.be/rgnbtRXT6Gw

it uses atmosphere to create thrust

No it does not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wk7VKZcnEc

That guy's a dumbass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-v_K1k8Se0

K I'll watch it for you

https://youtu.be/HwK7staIj-Y

with your own oxygen in the rocket fuel it is possible to get ignition, but it doesn't work that well