Message from @Lemonier

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2018-10-16 06:11:45 UTC  

this guy has a master's degree in technical physics

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2018-10-16 06:11:52 UTC  

let me see

2018-10-16 06:11:57 UTC  

he's telling you it has nothign to push off of, it won't work

2018-10-16 06:12:03 UTC  

and hes wrong

2018-10-16 06:12:16 UTC  

because he apparently doesnt understand rockets

2018-10-16 06:12:45 UTC  

well, the link is up above

2018-10-16 06:13:22 UTC  

lets read newtons third law by quote shall we?

2018-10-16 06:13:47 UTC  

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

2018-10-16 06:13:47 UTC  

maybe we should watch this video and see if he address it

2018-10-16 06:13:56 UTC  

goopy

2018-10-16 06:14:00 UTC  

srry

2018-10-16 06:14:10 UTC  

so if I flap my arms in a vacuum, am I going anywhere?

2018-10-16 06:14:14 UTC  

nope

2018-10-16 06:14:24 UTC  

no medium to propel you up

2018-10-16 06:14:44 UTC  

if I take an oxygen tank in a vacuum and start releasing gas, am I going to move anywhere?

2018-10-16 06:15:27 UTC  

if you let the gas out at a very fast speed and a very high pressure, you're going to fall backwards from the force of the gas ejecting out the tank

2018-10-16 06:15:42 UTC  

if you let it drizzle out nope

2018-10-16 06:16:43 UTC  

nope, won't matter

2018-10-16 06:17:01 UTC  

have you tried it yourself or are you just saying so

2018-10-16 06:17:30 UTC  

you might get thrust but I don't think so, not significant amount

2018-10-16 06:18:04 UTC  

depending on how fast the oxygen comes out ya you might not get much, but you still get it

2018-10-16 06:18:06 UTC  

on the plus side any thrust would be better in a vacuum though

2018-10-16 06:18:16 UTC  

yes it would

2018-10-16 06:18:24 UTC  

because you don't need alot of thrust to move, unlike atmosphere

2018-10-16 06:18:39 UTC  

no air resistance

2018-10-16 06:18:41 UTC  

indeed

2018-10-16 06:20:06 UTC  

you still have the problem of pushing the amount of mass foward

2018-10-16 06:20:25 UTC  

in a vacuum with no air resistance would make it easier

2018-10-16 06:20:35 UTC  

true

2018-10-16 06:20:43 UTC  

but the rocket has to get there first

2018-10-16 06:20:56 UTC  

so it trudges on through the atmosphere

2018-10-16 06:21:15 UTC  

still amount of mass matters because it limits how much thrust you need to generate to move the entire mass, and stop it

2018-10-16 06:21:34 UTC  

the more mass the more thrust

2018-10-16 06:21:38 UTC  

suffice it to say that although it might function some, it wouldn't work enough to land on the moon and take off again, land back on earth

2018-10-16 06:21:59 UTC  

let me find a fun fact real quick

2018-10-16 06:22:32 UTC  

the more mass means the more thrust you need to move it

2018-10-16 06:22:35 UTC  

even in a vacuum

2018-10-16 06:22:36 UTC  

All Apollo missions carried and used around 5,625,000 pounds of propellant in all three modules and the Saturn V launch vehicle. This is for the whole trip, with the greatest amounts being used in the first minutes [to achieve orbital velocity] by the Saturn V rocket.

2018-10-16 06:22:50 UTC  

*thats a lot of propellant*

2018-10-16 06:23:42 UTC  

you don't just have to propel the rocket, you also have to propel all that propellant itself

2018-10-16 06:23:47 UTC  

keep in mind i dont believe in space like the globe earth model says it is or that we went to the moon, im just saying if we were in the ge model it would be possible