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2017-01-27 02:50:29 UTC

No, he doesn't expect you to take it as a truth, he just fucking expects you to become aware of your own accord or reject it.

2017-01-27 02:50:50 UTC

Ok then, I reject it because he didn't give a source

2017-01-27 02:51:00 UTC

I said that earlier too

2017-01-27 02:51:19 UTC

You realise it is possible to do your own research right?

2017-01-27 02:51:37 UTC

Yes, but he made the claim, and I asked for a source

2017-01-27 02:52:04 UTC

โญ Burden of Proof โญ

2017-01-27 02:52:18 UTC

Who gives a shit what you asked for? You can find it yourself? You just seem entitled.

2017-01-27 02:52:54 UTC

to be fair @Chaos , my mindset is a bit special about all this, only the result really matter in my area. In mathematic you might get some points to apply the proper function or something even if the result is false. I do care if you applied a proper algorithm for a problem, but if the result was fucked up, all you get from me is a big fat zero nonethless...

2017-01-27 02:53:19 UTC

dude homu, if someone asked for a source for every claim you ever made you'd fail to give most of them.

2017-01-27 02:54:02 UTC

you might get some point if you reinvented a squared wheel and the result is correct though

2017-01-27 02:54:48 UTC

There aren't any rules though

2017-01-27 02:56:06 UTC

For someone who is awfully logically inconsistent and makes use of semantically incorrect language constantly you really seem hung up on some really specific expectation of logical argument.

2017-01-27 02:56:45 UTC

Examples?

2017-01-27 02:57:07 UTC

Don't expect that insult to hold much weight without any examples.

2017-01-27 02:58:04 UTC

lol, I didn't expect all this to escalate this much...

2017-01-27 03:01:27 UTC

btw, homu since you look like you love sources, I fail to see how my students are a failure: https://www.codingame.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/slides-of-a-pitch-deck-3-410x1024.png

2017-01-27 03:02:23 UTC

of course that's an opiniated source, but I provided one, can I have a cookie ? ๐Ÿ˜„

2017-01-27 03:02:41 UTC

You constantly use appeal to ignorance, you also often use circular reasoning, like right now actually where you are all "you have to because that is the rules", your arguments are riddled with ad hominem you often make use of equivocation to change your arguments afterwards. Right now your argument is a false dilemma.

2017-01-27 03:06:18 UTC

Also, Homu when you make claim that towelie is wrong because he does not prove his position with a source, you are shifting the burden of proof without realising that your position also is undefined to be true or false. You make an argument from ignorance.

2017-01-27 03:08:20 UTC

Negative claims are also claims

2017-01-27 03:08:41 UTC

it's all right chaos, there's no need to go that far for something like this

2017-01-27 03:08:54 UTC

he asked for examples

2017-01-27 03:09:12 UTC

I know, but I don't mind homu the way he is

2017-01-27 03:09:39 UTC

I was just stating that with this mindset he would probably fail a lot in the university I work for

2017-01-27 03:10:01 UTC

He would in my courses also

2017-01-27 03:10:07 UTC

but I still love him

2017-01-27 03:10:24 UTC

also, that might be partly my fault, my english isn't that great

2017-01-27 03:10:51 UTC

I tend to fail explaining stuff sometimes since i'm not that good

2017-01-27 03:10:51 UTC

holy shit

2017-01-27 03:11:19 UTC

use <#274375742433787904>

2017-01-27 03:11:24 UTC

just made it

2017-01-27 03:11:27 UTC

nice and fresh

2017-01-27 03:11:42 UTC

please delete that

2017-01-27 03:11:45 UTC

lol

2017-01-27 03:11:48 UTC

no one needs that

2017-01-27 03:11:55 UTC

the issue wasn't about politics kirk

2017-01-27 03:12:11 UTC

homu expected me to "provide sources for my claims"

2017-01-27 03:12:26 UTC

it wasn't an argument about politic especially

2017-01-27 03:14:55 UTC

its not just you

2017-01-27 03:15:08 UTC

people keep gettin into it over politics

2017-01-27 03:15:11 UTC

@Deleted User and you ? do you expect me to provides you *sources* when I say that I would bang your hairy pimpled ass ? ๐Ÿ˜„

2017-01-27 03:16:17 UTC

hmm ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ) ?

2017-01-27 03:21:49 UTC

"Also, Homu when you make claim that towelie is wrong because he does not prove his position with a source, you are shifting the burden of proof without realising that your position also is undefined to be true or false. You make an argument from ignorance."

I didn't claim that it was inherently *wrong*, I did make it clear that the lack of a source was a big issue though. As I said twice when presented the options, I chose to ignore it due to a lack of a source rather than accepting it blindly or outright claiming it was wrong.

2017-01-27 03:24:44 UTC

"You constantly use appeal to ignorance, you also often use circular reasoning, like right now actually where you are all "you have to because that is the rules""

Actually, it was because he made the claim as he was presenting his argument towards me (How the things Trump's dealing with now are of low priority and are moving us backwards rather than advancing us as a society), and that I was not familiar with one of the things he brought up. Because he had made that claim in his argument towards me, the burden of proof was thus left on him as it was his responsibility in order to truly provide a meaningfull argument.

2017-01-27 03:27:07 UTC

"your arguments are riddled with ad hominem you often make use of equivocation to change your arguments afterwards."

Usually as a joke or intentionally to agitate the person on the other side in order to hopefully push them into actually providing something a bit more worthwhile in the discussion (in this case, documented sources detailing the change that Trump had enstated regarding abortions, be it opinionated or not. In the case they are opinionated, multiple independent sources stating the same details, 3 at minimum with 2 being at least acceptable).

2017-01-27 03:28:30 UTC

"Negative claims are also claims"

And if needed I could go ahead and provide sources as well, when asked. I didn't need sources on his other claims, just the one. I would provide that same level of respect by giving sources as well if asked.

2017-01-27 03:28:48 UTC

Sorry for the late replies, I was busy watching stuff

2017-01-27 03:29:24 UTC

so, you're telling me that when someone make a claim, you expect mutliple sources to back up the said claims or you simply ignore them? Can you tell me clearly why don't you search for it if this subject have any interest in your eyes?

2017-01-27 03:30:19 UTC

I just typed "trump global gag rule" on google and guess what: `About 1,690,000 results (0.60 seconds) `

2017-01-27 03:30:52 UTC

I said if the first one is heavily opinionated, then multiple would be required. Not "always provide multiple"

2017-01-27 03:31:41 UTC

well, since earlier I was searching for the exact law text that he signed because imho, every single media is opiniated

2017-01-27 03:33:29 UTC

I can't find it though because I lack the methods to do so. My wife is much more knowledgeable than me on law as it's her domain of work and thus I have no issues finding stuff about french laws but I can't really find real infos about this issue on the web.

2017-01-27 03:33:38 UTC

None of those responses are refutations homu

2017-01-27 03:34:26 UTC

How so? @Chaos

2017-01-27 03:34:27 UTC

all I can say is that this law forbid foreign NGOs to promote, help, advertise or anything abortion related to US people on US soil (And maybe US NGO on foreign soil but I'm not sure on that point, plus it doesn't really concern you guys)

2017-01-27 03:36:53 UTC

you will tell me that it's another claim that I don't back up, but a lot of imigrants or non-english speakers in the US depends on these NGOs for this subject

2017-01-27 03:38:18 UTC

if you want exact sources, trump did that on the 23th of this month, do yourself a favor and please search for it

2017-01-27 03:39:51 UTC

@Homu H. Saying that something is intentional doesn't change the fact that it remains a logical fallacy

2017-01-27 03:40:30 UTC

That was with simply one response, you said "none of those."

2017-01-27 03:42:06 UTC

And I wasn't saying that as a means to refute it, it was just an explanation.

2017-01-27 03:45:04 UTC

Yea, I really don't think I can explain it to you in a way you will understand. Quite frankly it's too much effort. I don't expect you to change the way you respond if that is the level of explantion you provide for the things I brought up. Its far past what I can be fucked doing to write you an essay explaining logical fallacies and why your responses do not provide conclusive argument or even convinicing ampliative argument.

2017-01-27 03:46:11 UTC

hey chaos, you should really back up that claims with sources or you will get a fail from homu's class !

2017-01-27 03:46:20 UTC

Oh NO!

2017-01-27 03:46:22 UTC

Fuck

2017-01-27 03:46:24 UTC

:p

2017-01-27 03:46:56 UTC

So basically there's nothing then

2017-01-27 03:47:04 UTC

it's already too late for me apparently as I'm an autist that push my students to fail, but it's still time for you chaos

2017-01-27 03:47:55 UTC

In my defense I did say twice now I was just gonna throw out the claim and move on

2017-01-27 03:49:10 UTC

no, not the hammer your honor

2017-01-27 03:50:19 UTC

I always thought it was funny how you guys call the judge in english... "Mr. Justice". pfahaha

2017-01-27 03:51:16 UTC

1 be homu
2 Get into argument
3 repeat strange incredulous reasoning
4 fail to understand claims
5 demand explanation
6 repeat steps 3-5
7 when other person canโ€™t be fucked anymore claim victory

2017-01-27 03:52:08 UTC

๐Ÿ† here you go

2017-01-27 03:52:36 UTC

You explained the problem with one of the explanations and then went "HAH UR 2 STOOPED TO UNDERSTAND ITD BE A WAIST OF MY TIM!!!" when I told you that you only responded to the one easy one

2017-01-27 03:53:38 UTC

i'm gonna try an Ad Homunem

2017-01-27 03:53:47 UTC

do shemale have periods too ?

2017-01-27 03:53:59 UTC

Oh I've spotted another fallacy in the wild, here folks we have the illusive Straw man.

2017-01-27 03:54:44 UTC

But that's pretty much what happened tho

2017-01-27 03:55:16 UTC

You just said it'd be a waste of your time going through it and that I wouldn't understand

2017-01-27 03:55:31 UTC

You never responded to the other explanations

2017-01-27 03:56:26 UTC

You specifically targetted the one that validated you and acted as if I was defending myself while saying you were wrong, despite the fact I was saying "Yes I understand and you're right, here's why I do it"

2017-01-27 03:57:38 UTC
2017-01-27 04:18:32 UTC

Huh

2017-01-27 04:19:08 UTC

Wait what

2017-01-27 04:23:35 UTC

Dont worry about it

2017-01-27 04:30:56 UTC

So I found out how KC works

2017-01-27 04:31:11 UTC

I mean I guess it wasn't that hard to figure out

2017-01-27 04:32:08 UTC

it's literally just teleporing but in time? I guess that's how you explain it

2017-01-27 06:43:30 UTC

It's difficult to explain but kinda makes sense

2017-01-27 07:28:33 UTC

I just finished watching this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231228590174240769/274440498880446475/unknown.png

2017-01-27 07:28:49 UTC

a picture?

2017-01-27 07:28:53 UTC

Yeah

2017-01-27 07:29:11 UTC

It's called Angel's Egg

2017-01-27 07:29:24 UTC

Oh shit I thought so

2017-01-27 07:29:32 UTC

I've been meaning to watch it for forever

2017-01-27 07:29:46 UTC

I'll try to get to it this weekend

2017-01-27 07:29:46 UTC

Oh so I guess I can't talk about it then

2017-01-27 07:29:59 UTC

Haven't seen it yet

2017-01-27 07:30:02 UTC

But I want to get to some other stuff too so that may be tough

2017-01-27 07:30:17 UTC

I'm watching this japanese silent film right now, A Page of Madness

2017-01-27 07:30:40 UTC

Cowritten by the famed poet/short story writer Yasunari Kawabata

2017-01-27 07:30:44 UTC

Well what I think of it so far is that it's a masterpiece in it's own way

2017-01-27 07:31:24 UTC

Nice

2017-01-27 07:31:52 UTC

I have a couple Kurosawa films I want to watch after this, I'll check out Angel's Egg after those

2017-01-27 08:03:22 UTC

god shut the fuck up faggots

2017-01-27 08:04:29 UTC

ozzy get your cabal of faggots to send someone over and play the fucking Protomen on stream

2017-01-27 08:04:35 UTC

I missed you ozzy

2017-01-27 08:04:38 UTC

wtf is protomen

2017-01-27 08:04:40 UTC

fucking retard

2017-01-27 08:05:18 UTC

just fucking do it retard

2017-01-27 08:05:32 UTC

no

2017-01-27 08:05:39 UTC

yes

2017-01-27 08:05:43 UTC

porbably some gay hsit

2017-01-27 08:05:49 UTC

mind control to turn u into a faggot

2017-01-27 08:05:49 UTC

no

2017-01-27 08:05:52 UTC

thats how u recruit them

2017-01-27 08:05:54 UTC

fucking faggo

2017-01-27 08:05:57 UTC

no

2017-01-27 08:06:05 UTC

my leg pics do that just fine

2017-01-27 08:06:12 UTC

fuck off dont talk to me queer

2017-01-27 08:06:35 UTC

no fuck you get them to play the fucking Protomen on stream

2017-01-27 08:06:38 UTC

no

2017-01-27 08:06:44 UTC

yes

2017-01-27 08:09:46 UTC

boy im a fuckin state away from that shit ill drive on the fuck down there and do it myself if need be

2017-01-27 08:09:52 UTC

kk then

2017-01-27 08:16:37 UTC

what

2017-01-27 08:18:39 UTC

Shocking

2017-01-27 08:18:53 UTC

motel Gierrrrr

2017-01-27 08:19:06 UTC

hey guys ๐Ÿ˜„

2017-01-27 08:19:29 UTC

So is anyone here going to RTXAU to meet Kojima as well?

2017-01-27 08:19:58 UTC

I would if I could

2017-01-27 08:20:16 UTC

I've experienced those feels man :c @ya boi

2017-01-27 08:20:32 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

2017-01-27 08:20:39 UTC

Aw

2017-01-27 08:21:14 UTC

RTXAU?

2017-01-27 08:21:28 UTC

Have you heard of Rooster Teeth? @Homu H.

2017-01-27 08:21:37 UTC

Unfortunately

2017-01-27 08:21:53 UTC

yes?

2017-01-27 08:22:08 UTC

that was implied, yes

2017-01-27 08:22:46 UTC

Yeah it's just I enjoy them so it's hard to see stuff like that ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Yeah they hold conventions in Australia each year

2017-01-27 08:23:05 UTC

oh

2017-01-27 08:23:08 UTC

and this year it's gonna have Hideo Kojima signing stuff and doing shit at panels

2017-01-27 08:23:16 UTC

im in america thankfully

2017-01-27 08:23:40 UTC

They host it in Austin Texas each year as well Haha

2017-01-27 08:24:02 UTC

Not in that area of America

2017-01-27 08:24:15 UTC

*shrugs* but still fam

2017-01-27 08:24:20 UTC

Hey maybe I can meet up with roo :3

2017-01-27 08:24:25 UTC

oh shit

2017-01-27 08:24:29 UTC

roo

2017-01-27 08:24:42 UTC

See I'm australian

2017-01-27 08:24:51 UTC

@nrg *i wonder what else you're gonna do with roo*

2017-01-27 08:24:56 UTC

and you do not know how many times I've heard that ;-;

2017-01-27 08:25:03 UTC

Probably go to the gym afterwards

2017-01-27 08:25:08 UTC

as my spotter

2017-01-27 08:25:11 UTC

i dont believe i can see but i could have guessed

2017-01-27 08:25:29 UTC
2017-01-27 08:25:33 UTC

Noice

2017-01-27 08:25:46 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2017-01-27 08:25:50 UTC

@Homu H. isn't that Poison from street fighter?

2017-01-27 08:25:54 UTC

Yeh

2017-01-27 08:25:58 UTC

Love Poison

2017-01-27 08:26:02 UTC

isn't he trans?

2017-01-27 08:26:04 UTC

xD

2017-01-27 08:26:06 UTC

but still hot

2017-01-27 08:26:11 UTC

Yeah she has a big girl cock

2017-01-27 08:26:17 UTC

lmao

2017-01-27 08:26:31 UTC

Wait doesn't S/He have a dick?

2017-01-27 08:26:41 UTC

Hot Legs Homu - Today at 3:26 AM
Yeah she has a big girl cock

2017-01-27 08:27:22 UTC

Everyone has a big girl cock

2017-01-27 08:27:27 UTC

But it's ok because so will i one day

2017-01-27 08:27:28 UTC

yeah

2017-01-27 08:31:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231228590174240769/274456440872108032/1645591-taizo_png.png

2017-01-27 08:31:59 UTC

Look at this motherfucker

2017-01-27 08:32:08 UTC

HE GIVES NO FUCKS

2017-01-27 08:32:28 UTC

No

2017-01-27 08:32:38 UTC

^

2017-01-27 08:32:51 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231228590174240769/274456679326810122/unknown.png

2017-01-27 08:32:57 UTC
2017-01-27 08:33:13 UTC

I came

2017-01-27 08:33:13 UTC

he's cumming on him?

2017-01-27 08:33:18 UTC

Same

2017-01-27 08:33:23 UTC

I CAME

2017-01-27 08:33:24 UTC

I SAW

2017-01-27 08:33:26 UTC

I CAME

2017-01-27 08:33:38 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231228590174240769/274456876312297472/unknown.png

2017-01-27 08:33:42 UTC

IF YOU DESTROY THE WORKING PARTS

2017-01-27 08:33:46 UTC

WHAT YOU GET IS A BROKEN MACHINE

2017-01-27 08:34:01 UTC

A BEACON OF LIGHT FROM A

2017-01-27 08:34:02 UTC

BUR

2017-01-27 08:34:03 UTC

NING

2017-01-27 08:34:06 UTC

SCREEN

2017-01-27 10:00:08 UTC

Holy fuck it's cold!

2017-01-27 10:00:36 UTC

OMG IT'S IN THE 40S WTF!?!??!!?!?

2017-01-27 10:00:46 UTC

No no no.

2017-01-27 10:00:58 UTC

This is no good. Needs to be at least in the 80s.

2017-01-27 10:08:37 UTC

Eyyy i knew it

2017-01-27 10:09:14 UTC

People were freaking out recently because Trump basically plugged up the EPA recently

2017-01-27 10:09:53 UTC

They did something to them and irdered that they cannot talk on twitter about stuff or something, I forget the details at 5am

2017-01-27 10:10:16 UTC

People freaked out because of his iffy behavior to climate change in the past

2017-01-27 10:11:00 UTC

Turns out it was because of corruption and negligence

2017-01-27 10:11:07 UTC

Particularly/most likely

2017-01-27 10:11:34 UTC

They could have helped regarding the Flint Michigain water pipes issue much sooner

2017-01-27 10:11:45 UTC

Could have made the call saying that shit was unsafe

2017-01-27 10:11:50 UTC

7 months ago

2017-01-27 10:11:58 UTC

But didnt

2017-01-27 10:12:17 UTC

Even though they had more than enough proof

2017-01-27 10:12:56 UTC

And id post the articles but my phones being a fucking cuckold and google wont let me go to the actual linked site, just a full preview thing

2017-01-27 11:32:53 UTC

Morning

2017-01-27 12:06:50 UTC

CPS3 games are a pain in the ass to get working

2017-01-27 15:47:17 UTC

stfu

2017-01-27 15:47:18 UTC

cuck

2017-01-27 16:01:22 UTC

@Null made my own version.

2017-01-27 17:03:07 UTC

Why i can't name my chocobo:"koks"

2017-01-27 17:03:19 UTC

Game has name restrictions

2017-01-27 17:15:12 UTC

Oi

2017-01-27 17:44:45 UTC

game theory: metal gear solid is actually about weed

2017-01-27 18:35:18 UTC

I forgot that

2017-01-27 18:35:24 UTC

konami makes yugioh games

2017-01-27 18:35:37 UTC

downgrading features with each release

2017-01-27 18:41:32 UTC

more like they're not giving the series or games the proper variations it needs

2017-01-27 18:42:43 UTC

would know; liked Yugioh games and strategies involved. Too bad only the TV show is even watchable without having to check each new card that gets released and then watch the competitive scene make a huge stink over 'muh strategy killed!'

2017-01-27 18:45:15 UTC

yugiho was fun, the anime made it look like they came up with new strategy and card on the go while fighting

2017-01-27 18:46:11 UTC

"oh oh, I was in a pinch but you just fell into my trap because I used this card 23 turns ago and you are going to lose because of it"

2017-01-27 18:46:19 UTC

>.>"

2017-01-27 18:47:35 UTC

no kiddin', towelie ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

2017-01-27 18:48:14 UTC

oh, and the whole 'action card' in Arc-V ... well, it's kind of like Kaiba in a sense; a big 'screw you, let's force a win to one side or another with a last-minute powergame change' kinda thing

2017-01-27 18:48:20 UTC

and yeah, trap card turnaround

2017-01-27 18:48:59 UTC

well, it took 120 episodes of Arc-V (no kidding) to get to the big part that was teased and hinted at earlier in the show .-.

2017-01-27 18:49:49 UTC

lol

2017-01-27 19:15:16 UTC

@Deleted User lowest age for drinking in usa is 21?

2017-01-27 19:29:24 UTC

yea

2017-01-27 19:34:36 UTC

Lol,if i live in usa,i would be already arested xD

2017-01-27 19:35:43 UTC

it's 18 in the uk

2017-01-27 19:35:46 UTC

16 if with parents

2017-01-27 19:35:49 UTC

and with a meal

2017-01-27 19:36:38 UTC

In some states drinking age doesnt matter if at home with parental consent.

2017-01-27 19:39:19 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231228590174240769/274624400362569728/1TGtGCU.gif

2017-01-27 20:27:27 UTC

Yeah, you gotta have parental permission and supervision to drink below the age of 21. Can't buy it under 21 either. Cigarettes are at the age limit of 18. Drinking used to be 18, but there was this whole banning of alcohol, then when it got unbanned, it was bumped up to 21.

2017-01-27 20:27:29 UTC

no shutup roo.

2017-01-27 20:27:35 UTC

no u

2017-01-27 20:27:47 UTC

REeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

2017-01-27 20:28:00 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231228590174240769/274636652394053632/roofrog.png

2017-01-27 20:28:11 UTC

15 years and im drinking offten,REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

2017-01-27 20:29:12 UTC

And then a cop came with a new recipe

2017-01-27 20:29:52 UTC

I made too much BBQ sauce.

2017-01-27 20:30:17 UTC

I was just going to make enough for a few meals, now I have a whole week's worth of sauce.

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