over here

saying LET'S JUST STICK TO THE FUCKING SCRIPT, OKAY?

Sorry what's your point?

Hmm ill leve it

My point was that it was a beautiful tangent with a point hidden in there somewhere.

Now kindly get your transformers out of my award winning classic.

I believe that those talented people should be writing the scritp to use your example.

The script is written

Nobody's following it.

Stick

to the fucking script

and everything would be fine.

Laws are being sumarily ignored left and right

with more laws being proposed by the ones ignoring existing ones.

>"300+ messages"
>wonder what everyones talking about
>notice aussie is here
>question answers itself doesent it?

Kinda, huh?

I dissagree, how can you make a movie if the actors don't follow the scrip?

Fire actors.

Get actors that give a shit about the script.

Yes that is what I would do.

But your actors are all typecast action movie stars.

So if they don't do what's their supposed to do then why use them?

i wonder if this is was spawned by a dump of 10 4chan screencaps and misquoted philosophy with greek sculptures in the background ill scroll up and look to sate my curiosity

probably not?

Not this time, anyway.

oh it actually wasent, thats surprising

stranger things have happened.

btw, ive been here for 5 months, who is @Joe?

Also, I don't think you're getting the point here, Aussie. The script is the laws as they exist, and the form of government.

The people adlibbing are the talking head politicians and pundits that want to change what we're doing here.

You're one of them.

If you're saying the script is fine, then you're in support of a carefully crafted representative republic, not fascism.

Okay if the script writer is a law matter why wouldn't you just have the best script writer be the script writer ensted of just voting for one?

I mean...

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the script. It's award-winning.

Some might even say it's the best script in the world

Especially right now, it's the most powerful, moving script.

Despite the people off in the background adlibbing.

I don't support that situation. Why not just have the scrip writer write a scrip and the actors do follow it?

But this script is already working.

Why change it?

Do you see how you're the disruptive adlibber here?

I don't want to change the scrip if it's working so why would I let the actors who don't know about scrip writing change the scrip?

I don't know

Who decides if they know?

Fair question!

I mean you said let scientists and engineers decide

But who decides which scientists or engineers?

WIll the leader just choose a bunch of yesmen?

Or people who might demande he cede some power

Or just shoot them the moment he suspects them of plotting

Probably that last one, for sure.

Probably 3rd like is the goal, fourth line is inevitable, and fifth line...

Yes it is. I think the person that is good at writing then they should write stuff and people who are good at acting should be a actor it's that simple, people should do what they know and are good at.

But the script is already here

And it's working, it's great!

Why not defend the script that's working? Do we change for the sake of change alone?

If your saying that the scrip is a metaphor for the US goverment then it isn't working.

*several people are typing*

The script metaphor is not very good...I'd say it's like a playground with set guidelines, but people ignore the inconvenient rules

Despite the efforts of a VERY VOCAL group, it is actually still functioning fine.

So there are problems, and the people who ignore and make up rules make their OWN system

Killer's got it.

I think a better metaphor would be if the actors voted for the scrip writers.

And they fight for this system, without realising that if they had followed the original system, nothing would have gone wrong

^ ^ ^

stick to the damned script!

School shooting. Turns out, the shooter should've been in jail 20 times over!

BEFORE taking another human life!

BUT NO BAN GUNS

Of course, this isn't always a bad thing, since some systems are oppressive and destructive

Oh hey, man with gun dishonorably discharged from air force BUT NOBODY TOLD THE FBI! Now he's murdering a church. NOW HE GOT SHOT BY A CIVILIAN WITH A GUN

BUT NO

BAN ALL GUNS

If the scrip is a metaphor for the US goverment then you need to make how they work similar.

I did.

But...In a system that isn't set up to do so, and offers ample opportunities for anyone to climb the hierarchy, it doesn't make sense that instead of enforcing the law, people want to make their own law

I absolutely did.

But you don't vote for scrip writers dictators get the best ones to write one for them.

The script was the framework of a constitutional republic

In the parkland case, if the FBI did their fucking job, no one would have got killed

They had received over 37 reports on cruz

And did nothing

Dictators are Improv Nite at the Laugh Inn

Not even a fucking script.

Well.....Not always

well

yeah, they'll set a script, sure

It depends on the dictator

but it's subject to change on a whim

It's a more volatile script, yes

with no appeal

I mean

you can't appeal a bullet to the head.

Look I agree that creatively speaking that can sometimes create a good moive but I don't think it's comparabe to a goverment.

And I don't think a dictatorship can create an actual government for actual worthwhile people.

I agree that dictors make mistakes but it makes more sence then democracy.

They'll either be oppressed by the government, or the people will be sheep.

And I'm not a big fan of human livestock in any category.

Most people are sheep if they werent society wouldn't work.

But not everybody is.

But a dictator requires everyone to be.

Dictatorship is a very stupid idea

It doesn't work consistently

Just look at Cuba

Aussie will say Cuba was commie, doesn't count.

#NOTREALDICTATORSHIP

All societies have most people do what a goverment tells them to do for exaple you stop at traffic lights.

Cuba was more socialist...it even has private property

at the whim of the dictator, anyway.

I guarantee, if the dictator said you don't own that anymore, no refunds.

It's the principal that matters, should a family vote for who will be the head of a household?

Depends

In what situlation should a family vote for the head of a household?

I mean, if the head of the household is 70, has narcolepsy, and insists on a cross-country road trip

with him as the sole driver

Pretty sure I'd be voting for a recall.

May I die peacefully in my sleep like my uncle

Not screaming for dear life like the passengers in his van.

Yes there needs to be a way for a leader to step down and that is the only thing democracy gets right.

Okay, so you can remove the dictator.

Does he step down voluntarily, or is he taken down by force?

Look I know some dictators don't step down. The way I see it is that most dictators are motivated by two things, power and their place in hisotry.

https://i.imgur.com/ipWgVDY.gif

Their disire to keep themsleves in power will stop alot of dictors to step down while their disire for a good place in history might motivate them to step down when thier no longer able to run a country.

Nice gif.

But a dictatorship is an absolute form of government.

Yes I know it has it's problems but I think that dictatorship under a fascist system works better than a democary.

Therefore, you either have to wait for a natural death, PRAY that they'll step down, or if all else fails, sic semper tyrannis.

Yes you do get some bad leaders some times but I would rather that then democracy.

Oh, absolutely. Democracy is terrible on full scale.

That's why the US isn't a Democracy.

It's what happens because of democracy.

Our original script writers knew that was a bad trope to use as a crutch

(back to metaphor, lul)

Look I think it's a bad metaphor because you don't vote for the script writer like you do in America so it's a bad analogy.

I think you just don't understand the system I'm describing.

I didn't vote for the script writer. Script writers have been dead for two centuries.

I think the movie making process is a better metaphor for the type of goverment I want, you have the director (dictator), script writer, editors (civil service) and set workers are the working class all working together to create somthing greater then themsleves.

All I'm saying is, we're the only nation where you can still yell either 'Fuck Muslims' or 'Fuck the President' and neither will get you arrested.

Unless, of course, you're breaking into someone's house to yell these things. Then you might get shot. Also only in America.

Yes I agree that academics, scientists and those sorts of people should have some room to move because for the most part they are the only people who really need freedom of speech.

Also, working together for the 'greater good' is fine and all when you're not getting shot/castrated for not playing along.

and bullshit. Anyone with a god damned mouth deserves freedom of speech

why the fuck are you saying you 'agree' with this

or 'agree' with that

and then redefining it as something completely contrary to what the fuck I just said.

I absolutely agree with you

that you need to stop fucking redefining what I say.

Because I don't agree with you

Look there will always be a goverment that excludes people it dosen't like.

one

god damned

bit

During the civil war the US goverment shut down newspapers that were against the war so don't try and tell me that your goverment doesn't and hasn't shut down people it doesn't like. Liberal goverments like all goverments distory their opposition.

We're still pretty damned free, regardless of that step backwards.

Granted, there's a LOT of excess that needs to get dismantled

I fundamentally dissagree with you. Your becoming a minorty in your own country and you can't stop it I don't call that freedom.

you do have the freedom to have like 12 kids

^ ^ ^

Do that.

and screech at other people to do the same

If you care about the white race, you can save it by promoting your own values.

the only stopping you from saving the white race is how unfuckable you are

Yes You can have 12 kids but you can't stop the goverment bringing in hundreds of thousands of non-whites every year.

If you can't, than that's your fault.

Your nation doesn't want the future you want

which is sad and all

No it's because yo have a democary.

Uh... The United States isn't Europe...

Yes I know that both are democracies and (((outsiders))) used that system to start white displacement.

United States is not a democracy.

Okay a representative democracy.

Representative democracy is just misinformed people votting in a popularity contest to get the mosed two faced sumfuckers to who work for the people who bribe them the most.

Look, here's the thing, in a truly free society, you can convince as many people as you want to only breed with other white people, to practice eugenics voluntarily.

That's really only describing the democratic party.

in it's current state.

The people voting for Republican candidates are fighting against that bullshit.

generally speaking

Most people have kids within thier race anyway but i think non-whites should leave white (western) countires.

Do you think that a population that only 36% knows how the goverment works should have the right to vote? https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/09/18/only-36-percent-of-americans-can-name-the-three-branches-of-government/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.02b99d7c3131

The fact is most people don't know anything about politics just like most people don't know anything about nuclear physics but you think people should vote for who controls the goverment but not who controls the nuclear power plant.

Why does everyone know the name of their president but not the name of their mayor?

What defines western values?

Commercials

The values that come from western civialization.

*slowclap*

The definition of definition is the definition!

It just is!

I knows it when I sees it!

Lol

Ok @RyeNorth tell me why a population of which only 36% knows how the goverment works should vote for it's leaders?

You realize the ones that don't really know generally don't vote, right?

Unlike Aussie, voting isn't mandatory.

I know that but more than 36% vote in US elections.

40% during midterms.

Sure, people get real opinionated around a presidential election

but it's the initiated, generally speaking, that vote otherwise.

Your still not telling why people who don't know much or anything about how somthing works should vote for the leaders of the thing they don't know anything or much about.

You're still not telling me about how they do.

Only 36% can name the three branches of government they dpon't know shit about how their system works and you think it's a good idea to let them vote for the people who lead it.

HOLY SHIT, REALLY? JEEZE, AND HERE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WHITE PEOPLE WERE SMART

I need to rethink white supremacy...

Whelp, I guess we should just let it go to the muslims! it's been fun, guys! At least the muslims all know the word of Allah.

brb, burning the constitution.

If my sarcasm wasn't enough

The Japanes on average have a IQ of 105 I also think they shouldn't have a democracy. I see politics as a profession like a teacher, lawyer, doctor, ect you don't elect your doctor so why should you elect your political leader?

I fail to see your fucking point.

I don't think whites are objectively supreme.

~~You take that back. I mean... uh....~~

This is you.

I believe we established that I already burned the constitution?

Also, where's that kid's gun, then?

My point is that some people know alot about politics so they should be in the goverment and those should run the goverment not some random shills. You wouldn't have some random person be your dotor because they were voted in would you? You would want someone who knows what they are doing.

And my rebuttal is that a political ruling class is what's actually going WRONG right now already.

Yes it's the people that matter so why do you support a system that lets shills run the goverment?

I support term limits for senators and congressmen.

Politicians need to be changed frequently, because power corrupts.

And absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You will not convince me of a damned thing if you're trying to convince me to give up liberty for an ethnostate.

So you suport changing the people in goverment every few years. Would you change who runs your hospital every few years based on a popularity contest?

Yes some people do get corrupted by power that dosen't change the fact that you support a system that puts shit people in power.

and how would your dictatorship avoid getting "shit people" in power?

I think people need to do and past tests to get into office so a meritocracy. That would filter out alot of shit people right their.

who would make the tests? and what kind of tests would be fool-proof?

You know the civil service exams are a thing right?

the thing about shit people is that they don't care, they'll find a way

The new goverment these things have happened before and they worked.

@Blackhawk342 Yes I know that I think it should be extened to all levels of the goverment.

and, say, if the dicator suddenly decided to be an ass and remove these tests or manipulate the results to get certain people into certain place of power, who can stop him? he's the fucking dictator

If your system puts shit people in power, Aussie

you have to wait a bit longer than 4 years to take them out...

Look I know this system isn't perfect but works way better than a democracy dose hell even John Locke didn't believe in democracy.

You're not selling your system to us. You can stop trying.

anarcho capitalism is more appealing

If all you were doing was selling the virtues of raising beautiful white babies, I'd be all for it. Get me a cute aryan wench and... you get the point...

@RyeNorth Your system will keep shit people in power because democracy is just a popularity contest. Why do you think alot of people think Clinton is good?

And yet Clinton lost.

Yes and another shill won.

Truck is a cuck to Israel.

I'm actually quite satisfied with trump when he's not bombing Syria for some reason.

He dose it for Israel just like Bush invaded Iraq for Israel.

I care a little, but I really kind of don't.

For those that don't know Israel wants to become grater Israel and expand it's borders to annex many of it's nabouring countires. https://www.facebook.com/100976976914141/videos/645096615835505/?hc_ref=ARQNWAk9UVf3U7eFV1RxqpxqMQWNytEPZDQfiGV6RYfUlmSaZJavkLwtMiD8O8D6wEE

I've got better debates going on right now...

Ok I gess we can call end this one then. It's been nice talking with you.

Israel is awesome

I support them taking over the middle east

They're the most democratic nation in the area lol