Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-06-19 05:55:12 UTC  

Yes there needs to be a way for a leader to step down and that is the only thing democracy gets right.

2018-06-19 05:55:33 UTC  

Okay, so you can remove the dictator.

2018-06-19 05:55:45 UTC  

Does he step down voluntarily, or is he taken down by force?

2018-06-19 05:57:18 UTC  

Look I know some dictators don't step down. The way I see it is that most dictators are motivated by two things, power and their place in hisotry.

2018-06-19 05:58:36 UTC  

Their disire to keep themsleves in power will stop alot of dictors to step down while their disire for a good place in history might motivate them to step down when thier no longer able to run a country.

2018-06-19 05:58:53 UTC  

Nice gif.

2018-06-19 05:59:31 UTC  

But a dictatorship is an absolute form of government.

2018-06-19 06:00:26 UTC  

Yes I know it has it's problems but I think that dictatorship under a fascist system works better than a democary.

2018-06-19 06:00:41 UTC  

Therefore, you either have to wait for a natural death, PRAY that they'll step down, or if all else fails, sic semper tyrannis.

2018-06-19 06:01:24 UTC  

Yes you do get some bad leaders some times but I would rather that then democracy.

2018-06-19 06:01:52 UTC  

Oh, absolutely. Democracy is terrible on full scale.

2018-06-19 06:02:01 UTC  

That's why the US isn't a Democracy.

2018-06-19 06:02:16 UTC  

It's what happens because of democracy.

2018-06-19 06:02:28 UTC  

Our original script writers knew that was a bad trope to use as a crutch

2018-06-19 06:02:42 UTC  

(back to metaphor, lul)

2018-06-19 06:03:52 UTC  

Look I think it's a bad metaphor because you don't vote for the script writer like you do in America so it's a bad analogy.

2018-06-19 06:05:05 UTC  

I think you just don't understand the system I'm describing.

2018-06-19 06:05:37 UTC  

I didn't vote for the script writer. Script writers have been dead for two centuries.

2018-06-19 06:09:09 UTC  

I think the movie making process is a better metaphor for the type of goverment I want, you have the director (dictator), script writer, editors (civil service) and set workers are the working class all working together to create somthing greater then themsleves.

2018-06-19 06:11:14 UTC  

All I'm saying is, we're the only nation where you can still yell either 'Fuck Muslims' or 'Fuck the President' and neither will get you arrested.

2018-06-19 06:11:54 UTC  

Unless, of course, you're breaking into someone's house to yell these things. Then you might get shot. Also only in America.

2018-06-19 06:13:39 UTC  

Yes I agree that academics, scientists and those sorts of people should have some room to move because for the most part they are the only people who really need freedom of speech.

2018-06-19 06:13:43 UTC  

Also, working together for the 'greater good' is fine and all when you're not getting shot/castrated for not playing along.

2018-06-19 06:14:13 UTC  

and bullshit. Anyone with a god damned mouth deserves freedom of speech

2018-06-19 06:14:19 UTC  

why the fuck are you saying you 'agree' with this

2018-06-19 06:14:21 UTC  

or 'agree' with that

2018-06-19 06:14:32 UTC  

and then redefining it as something completely contrary to what the fuck I just said.

2018-06-19 06:14:37 UTC  

I absolutely agree with you

2018-06-19 06:14:43 UTC  

that you need to stop fucking redefining what I say.

2018-06-19 06:14:59 UTC  

Because I don't agree with you

2018-06-19 06:14:59 UTC  

Look there will always be a goverment that excludes people it dosen't like.

2018-06-19 06:14:59 UTC  

one

2018-06-19 06:15:01 UTC  

god damned

2018-06-19 06:15:01 UTC  

bit

2018-06-19 06:17:33 UTC  

During the civil war the US goverment shut down newspapers that were against the war so don't try and tell me that your goverment doesn't and hasn't shut down people it doesn't like. Liberal goverments like all goverments distory their opposition.

2018-06-19 06:20:13 UTC  

We're still pretty damned free, regardless of that step backwards.

2018-06-19 06:20:29 UTC  

Granted, there's a LOT of excess that needs to get dismantled

2018-06-19 06:21:20 UTC  

I fundamentally dissagree with you. Your becoming a minorty in your own country and you can't stop it I don't call that freedom.

2018-06-19 06:22:23 UTC  

you do have the freedom to have like 12 kids

2018-06-19 06:22:33 UTC  

^ ^ ^