or feminist

I didn't say or imply that

nor do they act as differently online as you think, depending on what the topic is

I said that if you pass a lot of time with someone online, you will eventually know

not always

it becomes pretty obvious

unless they are deviant

does it?

yep

in my personal experience, the people who are easy to peg as females, are usually people begging for attention

I played a lot of MMOs, it was really hard to guess incorrectly their gender after a while, even if VC wasn't used

did you use VC to correctly identify them?

yup

after a while, raiding with VC became the norm

also, i doubt gaming is a good example, particularly MMOs and Shooting games. those are still pretty damn male

but that is not even most of the internet anymore

MMOs aren't necessarily

MMOs aren't that much

But I wouldn't use MMOs as an example necessarily based on personality types

there's a lot of social things, decorations, fashion, etc

cute things, events

etc

so then it doesn't fit your narrative of still being mostly male.

it is still mostly male

but the ratio isnt as bad as what you pointed out

FPSs

etc

okay, i admit FPSs is way worse than MMO, but they are still mostly male, and have been for a very long time. true, you are seeing more females, but that is across the board.

its not like phone games

from a team of 8, I raided, we had 4 women

which seem to hold the female market

and children

most games aren't appealing to women

i'm confused. I though you were arguing that the internet these days is not filled with way more female influence than people care to admit

it's like I said from the start, women started focusing on social media after it became a thing, they dont usually like anonymous settings

Apparently WoW is slowly switching to mostly Wahmen for total time played

Oh this was a while ago

women play MMOs, that doesn't mean they do the same things

So yeah, MMOs are closer to the 40/60 and 50/50 split

they waste way more time chatting and socializing

decoration and fashion also became a thing in MMOs

theres also collectibles, etc

men focus on competition

in those same games

and status

Fantasy mmos to be specific. Scifi based mmos skew much more towards male

I was talking mostly about FFXIV

Final Fantasy 14 (and 11)

But yeah the data shows that men and women have different reasons for playing mmos with women being more likely to cite the social aspects

Final Fantasy: the game series where the number doesn't mean anything anymore aside from its not the other games

we have deviated greatly

lmao

not really

you started with, "theres a lot of females, we just assume they are men"

we said there aren't that many, and they become easily identifiable as women after a while

this depends on the type of interaction though, I guess

Demo wise that assumption still happens though

When you're dealing with populations and not individuals

what do you mean?

ahh..yes

you will always assume at first that a women is a man online

but you will be statistically accurate 😂

Not always. Sometimes the username gives it away.

Or the picture.

And that a large group of people are men, even on social media

I've seen a lot of men trying to pass as women too

Remember how the studies on twitter harrassment blew people's minds?

because they want the status, free stuff, etc. They want to know how it feels like

yep

I still think the number of females on the internet is grossly underestimated by males. Perhaps because male and female interest divides so much

and because historically, it was mostly men

@Beemann what study?

Probably means the pew research study

because men usually seemed to be the ones who were un-phased by being called a nerd

or at least were more thrown out of every other group for it

the only example of women trying to pass as males for a long time, are those that are very good at competing. But those are a rarety. I would say that most women online usually say they are women, or that it becomes obvious after a while.

perhaps after a while

What evidence do you have for that claim beyond personal experience

but how many people do you interact with long enough to find out?

@Saiio who's claim? mine or Belial

depends what kinda interaction we are talking about. I know the gender of everyone on my Discord friendlist

femboy foxes

Let's assume your point though.. would you say this server is 50% female?

Belial

i have no clue, have not interacted with most of this server.

although there is a higher number of females than i thought there would be

all women must die

in this server I only interacted with one

the others are all male

i was about say "any" is higher than a i thought it would be

pretty sure i've interacted with 2 at least.

then again, this includes before the sever changed entirely

then? ratio it out

you can even make mistakes, but there's no way you have 30% female audience here

if we want to play that game. most of the discord servers my gf is in are almost entirely female

FOR A GAY UNIVERSE!

isn't this enough against your argument?

no, because this is not the entire internet

your GF

your GF obviously would be more into female circles