Fite me.

i like how tim pool's new video basicly explains the biggest problem with ancapitalism

theres no democracy when everything is privately owned

Mmm, mostly.

theres no rights when everything is owned

He did take a stab at free market capitalism

a slight stab

#NotRealCapitalism

at risk of sounding like a dirty commie, what we're under right now is Corporatism.

a slight stab on the heart is quite serious 😛

I do firmly believe in anti-trust and anti-monopoly measures as well.

and Google is, by far, way too powerful.

wtf are you going to do though

google is a hard company to split up

they rely heavily on software and human resources distributed across all branches

Actually, Google has made several 'acquisitions' over the years, which is one reason they're so massive.

That's their problem, not the law's.

first you take away youtube, then you break adsense off of it

@Arch-Fiend youtube doesn't make them money

making youtube, google, and adsense all 3 different companys would be a big move

thats not the point of demonopolization

adsense heavily relies on internal google services

splitting them up would cripple the service

That's too bad.

i mean you can do it but it will have really bad consequences for the internet as a whole

doesent matter that youtube doesent make them money, it does make revanue, just not as much as it costs to maintain, it makes about half of what it costs and yet at the same time its valued, that value is the problem and if you are going to bust a monopoly you have to start somewhere and thats the biggest link next to adsense

your alternatives are owned by even shadier corporations that have the same moral bankruptcy as EA

also youtube would make more money if it wasent attached to google. but it would have to change, thats why its attached to google, because there is no risk in that relationship

They don't have the power or influence that Google does, though.

the only risk youtube has with google is slow decay which doesent matter to the people up top, their lifespan wont suffer those consaquences

It'd be good enough if Google was required to actively provide evidence that they're at all times adhering to the First Amendment continuously.

though youtube may become a liability eventually

YouTube's worth is due to their popularity and technology, if say a large telecom company wanted to buy them it wouldn't be the free and relatively open youtube we have now

we dont have a free and relatively open youtube

yes, we do

if you think we do you live in a fantasy

compare to fucking vimeo

or any other video sharing website

their moderation is *fucking horrid*

moderation of what?

mostly taking down copyrighted content

vs copy right laws?

and you know, cp

ill agree google protects them from that, but youtubes days are numbered

the only thing that actually protects youtube is plausible deniability

with what

they have been spending years bending over backwards for copyright while generally never being sued themselves by saying "we cant know everything on our platform"

but thats slowly ending

for content id specifically it's the most accurate that it has ever been

the moment that youtube cant argue that it can observe, monitor and delete any copyrighted material uploaded to its service is the moment youtube changes forever

and that day is coming very soon

when youtube was small it did bend over for record companies, even in false flag cases

youtubes size is really the only thing that protects it

but i don't hear about content id issues anymore

those other platform's obscurity is what protects them

its getting better

why do you think its going to be worse?

no it isint

because youtube now sees and hears EVERYTHING on their platform

what

it always has

no it hasent, its never had the ability to monitor all content with the ability to delete content in a way that could be used with neerly 100% accuracy by copyright companys before, its now VERY close to that

5 years ago videos of white noise were getting falsely content-ided and there was a shitstorm

thats the problem

the accuracy is *why* it's better

videos with white noise getting falsely content-ided is what protected them

yes

thats not happening anymore

and more accurate systems to detect copyrighted content is why

they feel more safe so they don't let as many videos slip through the cracks

that means if a copyright holder goes to youtube and says "get rid of this or we sue you" they have a better chance of doing it accurately

they have been doing that forever

accurately

ok

accuracy is good

no

it isint

are you a poe?

it means they are following the DMCA and relevant US copyright laws

which is good

youtube has less liability because of the DMCA

nigga that doesent mean they are going to respect fair use

they do though

people were waiting months for counter DMCAs to go through

now it takes weeks at most

and even when Google makes an incorrect verdict

you are liable

Ping's mostly correct here

The purpose of the DMCA is to protect a platform based on the procedures

As long as they follow the procedure outlined by the DMCA, they cannot get sued because of participants on their platform.

That prevents Youtube from getting sued, Server farms from getting sued, Etc. Etc.

Now, youtube's had to tweak their policies a little bit

But when someone gets a DMCA through youtube now

they're given a notice, and a realistic period to respond

If they respond, they either take down the video, or submit a counter-claim.

The point of this, is that the claimant is now legally engaged with the creator of the video.

instead of the company(ies) hosting it.

From there, it's up to the claimant to decide to bring it to court or not.

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