Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-03-23 01:18:05 UTC  

a slight stab on the heart is quite serious 😛

2018-03-23 01:19:39 UTC  

I do firmly believe in anti-trust and anti-monopoly measures as well.

2018-03-23 01:19:45 UTC  

and Google is, by far, way too powerful.

2018-03-23 01:20:48 UTC  

wtf are you going to do though

2018-03-23 01:20:58 UTC  

google is a hard company to split up

2018-03-23 01:21:20 UTC  

they rely heavily on software and human resources distributed across all branches

2018-03-23 01:21:21 UTC  

Actually, Google has made several 'acquisitions' over the years, which is one reason they're so massive.

2018-03-23 01:21:31 UTC  

That's their problem, not the law's.

2018-03-23 01:21:35 UTC  

first you take away youtube, then you break adsense off of it

2018-03-23 01:22:18 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend youtube doesn't make them money

2018-03-23 01:22:21 UTC  

making youtube, google, and adsense all 3 different companys would be a big move

2018-03-23 01:22:43 UTC  

thats not the point of demonopolization

2018-03-23 01:22:44 UTC  

adsense heavily relies on internal google services

2018-03-23 01:23:00 UTC  

splitting them up would cripple the service

2018-03-23 01:23:08 UTC  

That's too bad.

2018-03-23 01:24:05 UTC  

i mean you can do it but it will have really bad consequences for the internet as a whole

2018-03-23 01:24:26 UTC  

doesent matter that youtube doesent make them money, it does make revanue, just not as much as it costs to maintain, it makes about half of what it costs and yet at the same time its valued, that value is the problem and if you are going to bust a monopoly you have to start somewhere and thats the biggest link next to adsense

2018-03-23 01:24:38 UTC  

your alternatives are owned by even shadier corporations that have the same moral bankruptcy as EA

2018-03-23 01:25:35 UTC  

also youtube would make more money if it wasent attached to google. but it would have to change, thats why its attached to google, because there is no risk in that relationship

2018-03-23 01:25:35 UTC  

They don't have the power or influence that Google does, though.

2018-03-23 01:26:36 UTC  

the only risk youtube has with google is slow decay which doesent matter to the people up top, their lifespan wont suffer those consaquences

2018-03-23 01:27:07 UTC  

It'd be good enough if Google was required to actively provide evidence that they're at all times adhering to the First Amendment continuously.

2018-03-23 01:27:20 UTC  

though youtube may become a liability eventually

2018-03-23 01:27:21 UTC  

YouTube's worth is due to their popularity and technology, if say a large telecom company wanted to buy them it wouldn't be the free and relatively open youtube we have now

2018-03-23 01:28:04 UTC  

we dont have a free and relatively open youtube

2018-03-23 01:28:10 UTC  

yes, we do

2018-03-23 01:28:13 UTC  

if you think we do you live in a fantasy

2018-03-23 01:28:16 UTC  

compare to fucking vimeo

2018-03-23 01:28:21 UTC  

or any other video sharing website

2018-03-23 01:28:28 UTC  

their moderation is *fucking horrid*

2018-03-23 01:28:40 UTC  

moderation of what?

2018-03-23 01:28:57 UTC  

mostly taking down copyrighted content

2018-03-23 01:28:58 UTC  

vs copy right laws?

2018-03-23 01:29:09 UTC  

and you know, cp

2018-03-23 01:29:19 UTC  

ill agree google protects them from that, but youtubes days are numbered

2018-03-23 01:29:38 UTC  

the only thing that actually protects youtube is plausible deniability

2018-03-23 01:30:08 UTC  

with what

2018-03-23 01:30:32 UTC  

they have been spending years bending over backwards for copyright while generally never being sued themselves by saying "we cant know everything on our platform"

2018-03-23 01:30:37 UTC  

but thats slowly ending

2018-03-23 01:31:09 UTC  

for content id specifically it's the most accurate that it has ever been

2018-03-23 01:31:18 UTC  

the moment that youtube cant argue that it can observe, monitor and delete any copyrighted material uploaded to its service is the moment youtube changes forever