But whether they evolved naturally or not is irrelevant to whether or not they're furry

Let's say you had the ability to change your own traits as you need to. Let's say you were wanting to physiologically change your body to be able to travel in, and live off of, the ocean.

They're clearly based on real life birds(primarily eagles)

not really

They're not really based on eagles.

idk how this is an argument, it takes 1 look at them to know theyre furry

Look at their adult beaks

not exactly an edge case

it's hard to actually link them to a real life bird, or at least a single one

Well first of all you guys are talking about a fictional animal

No tomiel tooth so it's not a falcon

Looks like an eagle's beak to me

that's just the beak though

Right, but that's why I said based on and not actually are eagles

They're not real animals, so I couldn't tell you their biology

Only what they are based off of in real life

genuinely curious-- when does something become furry in your eyes?

~~When it puts on the fur suit.~~

like, are the Rito from Wind Waker still furries?

Ooh, valid point, the Rito in Windwaker had a less 'furry' design than Breath of the Wild...

because they have beaks... (for noses what)

I'd say wind waker rito are getting close, and it's a stretch, but I'd understand why someone may feel that way

It's the classic cat girl vs furry scenario

There was a significant design change. When I refer to Rito, I'm specifically thinking of Windwaker.

so then could you say the asari from mass effect are octopus furries?

Are they based on octopus? I'm not familiar with the series

they have weirdly flat tentacle hair

Asari are weird to me; it's like they're designed to be a sexual fantasy race

I honestly hate the design of the asari

bland and uninspired

I mean more about the lore for the race

I see a distinct difference between characters such as Sonic, Dust, or Bubsy and characters like Ruto and Medli.

also are xenomorphs furries?

Better example, compare Amy, or 'Ginger' from Dust.

I could agree that Rito reaaaaaaly skirt the line

I'd argue though that Zora generally make sense, from a purely evolutionary perspective.

To the point that they are a race, and not simply anthropomorphic animals.

What's the debate currently going on about?

is rye a furry

/debate

lel

I recuse myself from this debate.

(from the debate about me being a furry or not)

If you have a furry pfp, then you are a furry, simple

it's okey my dude

everyone is just a potential furry in denial

Does that mean I'm a god?

Just send in a picture of yourself in a suit so we can debate off of evidence instead of heresay

is my pfp a furry?

I wouldn't say so

looks like it.

I can't actually see it in full though

It looks like it's got a proper animal head...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/284098962829344768/7aad8716d53ae5a8754eeec0942d8eaf.webp?size=256

i'll post full picture

I don't know WHAT that is.

It's not a furry, though

It has hair, but not fur

check shitposting

Is it a skinned Ink-Eyes?

If so, furry

nope

custom race

realistically, the closest animal they appear to is humans/primates

and they look nothing like humans

But I think we can all agree it's not a furry

yay, I guess I'm not a furry

finally, I can browse e621 with a clear conscience

I have been @'d

who challenges moi to a debate

does Rito are furries?

rito?

from zelda

breath of the wild

bird people

>bird people

>furries

define furry

(yes we're doing this again)

well do birds have fur

No

feathers

then they are not furrys

^

Not just Rito, what about Zoras?

Not furries

idk/idc

Also, in Windwaker, Rito had exposed skin, feathers, and hair.

...and a beak nose

really only half a beak.

triggers me

Anybody got a definition of a furry?

nope and that's kinda my point

The best we've probably got is UD

That's low key the joke of the debate topic

Well, it's more fun when we can actually win or lose

but we're all losers. We're debating about video games in a political discord.

Sure

But c'mon, it's fun

The only winning move is to not play.

Joke's on everyone else for trying to discuss politics in a video game application

^^

Nothing says serious political discussion like an application that epic memes on you every time you open it

'Oh hey, they're debating video games in <#463068752725016579>. I'll just take this opportunity to go pleasure my girlfriend' - Debate Winner

True

Termer, I was trying to find the "when to tell if you're a furry" catgirl picture but all that came up in the search were actual furry art results

I posted a picture similar in Shitposting btw

<#398973785426100234>

To investigate the Zora mystery.

Can you honestly not ping me for this furry shit debate?

like maybe ping me for something that isnt idiotic and degenerate?!

shut up you stupid borderline furry idiot

o o f

you know, I never really got the hate that furries get

like, sure, there's lots of gross shit in their community, but they more or less stay to themselves
and there's many furries that are even disturbed by their own community

nowadays it just seems that the mere glimpse of a furry character is enough to send people into a frothing rage

it seems like furries are mocked because they're considered to lowest of people, so anyone can shit on them

honestly people who rag on furries for the sake of itself just seem kinda pathetic to me

I mean, jesus christ there's shit that's leagues worse in hentai/weeb culture than the shit people often point to in the furry community (though the absolute extremes are kinda even I'd say)

yet weebs don't get nearly the level of social backlash that furries get

^

>they more or less stay to themselves
Furry propaganda

How so you know someone is a furry? Don't worry, they'll tell you

Straight up for years furries were the most obnoxious fetishists out there, and then they got outdone by bronies

Haha, then we'll see who gets more abnoxious

bronies are furries

I see no distinction

Personally, I've had more up-in-your face behavior from bronies

I should know

I was a brony

Good to see the word "was"

A lot of furries realized they needed to fuck off and stopped posting their awful fetish everywhere

But you still get shit like rainfurrest

In which degenerates descend upon and temporarily ruin an innocent venue and community

I believe rainfurrest was an outlier, never heard of anything on that level with any other furry convention

plus I'm pretty sure there were people actuvely doing gross shit on purpose to make the event look bad

I don't think people were buying fursuits to false flag a convention

that's not what I was implying

likely was a beef between the organizers and someone else

though I can't explain or defend the people walking around in diapers

but I also know that 99% of the furry community would not stand by something like that

again, rainfurrest seems to be the outlier

never heard about something similar in any other furry convention

make furries food!

turn them to pig-fat!

furries get the bullet furst

Gamer takeovers of the debate hall are proving to be a good idea.

how did you get a blue checkmark on discord

teach me your ways oh wise one

he paid Tim muneh

I copied and pasted someone else's name.

i'm too broke to afford money

The great irony

i'm dutch

Which means i have money, but i'll be dead before spending it

It will be a cold day in hell!

i'm just a poor person

Aye, a cold day in the European union

ha

at least it's an evil shadow government on our side

you're right, hence i'm double not-spending

isn't it a pain to have a monetary system based around tulips though?

seems hard to regulate

Not really, its brilliant

they wither and die

So people have to buy new ones

but what if someone imports them in bulk

we hang them from a windmill

i thought that was criminals

~~Tulips around my d*~~

~~Hah! Got em~~

nah, criminals shall wear the Cloggs of shame,

And then become part of the foundation that makes up our Dijken, which keep the sea out

i prefer the way we do it here in florida

we just through them in the alligator pit

pay with tacos?

Florida Man

and proud of it

but thats Americas penis 😦

i literally live a block from disney world

i can hear their storm sirens from my driveway

sounds awful

So basically you find fireworks shows boring and passe

yep

fun fact: disney world is actually outside of orlando city limits and is instead in the nearby suburb of doctor phillips

What do you call it when Orlando's economy is booming?

Orlando Blooms

i also quite literally went to high school across the street from universal studios. it's called doctor phillips high school. look it up if you don't believe me

Could never live there. Too flat

Florida is flat?

I get it 😉

cuz it doesnt look like a raging boner

@The Walking Deadpan and how's that working for you?

meh

the school was shit

a chick got stabbed in the parking lot my second year

@The Walking Deadpan doctor Phil reference.

U idiot, i dont hate furies, but when they ping me to debate their shit?! Yeah I hate that

fuck you rye north

I pinged (at)gaming specifically because it's a gaming-oriented debate, and I thought it'd be an funny/interesting conversation. I didn't ping excessively or frivolously. I'm not a furry. Saying a furry pinged you to debate is misleading.

The crux of the argument was that Rito and Zora are rather defined races, as opposed to being animal stand-ins. They're not Eagles, they're not Salmon, they're not anything that you can point to. They're divergent from a *type* of animal, sure, but to say they are animals is misleading in the same way saying Sonic IS an animal is not.

To be fair, you probably should've pinged people in <#464233883303673868> @RyeNorth

The ping and the topic were the problem, though, not the channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWapTKRzagc

This is an hour long talk from Based Liz about regulating FB, YT and Twitter. She has some very good points. I highly recommend.

Hello guys! I from Brasil. I'm studing the polítics of the western civilazition for several months. In the beggining, I was holding my opinions to myself, but I feel that a got a little more of knoledge, and must say....

THE LEFT OF THE WEST IS CRAZY!!!!

Yeah, they're basically socialists

#notall lol

I'm follower of the school of Keynes capitalism, witch classifies me as a moderate left of Brasil. But I feel that the left of the West would never consider me as leftist

But yea West has had a problem with Establishment "leftists" seemingly cow towing to actual far left ideologues. Which has pushed their traditional supporters away over time imo

Also Keynesian Capitalism is what the US mostly adheres too iirc

at least to some degree

Most people are center-left/right and libertarian

/\

Well, seems like the level of crazyness only increases in there

The Left is very authoritarian. Same with the Alt-right

average people are essentially what Dan V said

But I can't complaing, because the people of my country is getting crazy all over again becauce is elections year

At least you're not Venezuela

those in power are typically more authoritarian but typically not to the extent that they have started to become

the far left has more cultural and political influence than the alt-right

Ah... Venezuela.... Until 5 years ago all parties of left (in here) were simpatizers for Maduro. But now.... Our left had abandoned him

and the dirty centrists are finally speaking out lol

i can imagine why

I feel that there's no more centrist in Venezuela. Everyone is going to extremes

Well that may be the case there because you either support Maduro or dont at this point

So the extremes are more inviting

Either you support Maduro, have fled or are dead

basically

reminds me a bit of Argentina awhile back

Maduro is going to accidentally shoot himself in the back of the head a few times soon

if the drones dont kill him first

honestly when that news came in i had the 4chan "he will not divide us" drone attacks in mind

but made it a bit funny

Well, that drone just help increase Maduro' popularity

Is it time to snatch up Bolivars?

When the economy recovers, you can make a handsome profit

FOX wants CIA to assassinate him

Cause of cooooooooourse they would

I'm seriously considering purchasing some Bolivars as an investment

Like $50 worth

lol invest in the failing currency so when economy eventually recovers your rich?

What if it gets Zimbabwe'd?

That's the plan!

lol

They have so much oil, though

I mean it's only 50 bucks but still

Venezuela, that is

buy up the fields

Didn't stop it from basically collapsing

become an oil baron

Nothing is idiot proof, because idiot innovation is ahead of the curve

@Dan V don't know if would have profit...

Yeah, I'm betting on a more capitalist government taking over once Maduro is murdered

its a high risk investment

It is

But we're talking about less than $100

Even spending a dollar in bolivars though, would net you a decent chunk of change

How is it different than playing the lottery?

SO you either get rich or loose a couple hundred

Like that currency is turbo fucked right now

ye

Well, if Maduro were to be murdered, the ones who commemorate are not living longer....

It's worth less than WOW money

So, even if it gets back to 50 cents on the dollar, that's a massive profit

lol why does that sound familiar?

Right but the idea is to spend throwaway money on it

Like with crypto

It's definitely a get rich quick scheme

Ah.... Crypto.... When that bubble is going to explode?