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2018-08-14 23:32:31 UTC

the far left has more cultural and political influence than the alt-right

2018-08-14 23:33:11 UTC

Ah... Venezuela.... Until 5 years ago all parties of left (in here) were simpatizers for Maduro. But now.... Our left had abandoned him

2018-08-14 23:33:12 UTC

and the dirty centrists are finally speaking out lol

2018-08-14 23:33:32 UTC

i can imagine why

2018-08-14 23:35:17 UTC

I feel that there's no more centrist in Venezuela. Everyone is going to extremes

2018-08-14 23:36:02 UTC

Well that may be the case there because you either support Maduro or dont at this point

2018-08-14 23:36:17 UTC

So the extremes are more inviting

2018-08-14 23:36:20 UTC

Either you support Maduro, have fled or are dead

2018-08-14 23:36:26 UTC

basically

2018-08-14 23:36:47 UTC

reminds me a bit of Argentina awhile back

2018-08-14 23:36:56 UTC

Maduro is going to accidentally shoot himself in the back of the head a few times soon

2018-08-14 23:37:35 UTC

if the drones dont kill him first

2018-08-14 23:38:24 UTC

honestly when that news came in i had the 4chan "he will not divide us" drone attacks in mind

2018-08-14 23:38:36 UTC

but made it a bit funny

2018-08-14 23:38:40 UTC

Well, that drone just help increase Maduro' popularity

2018-08-14 23:38:55 UTC

Is it time to snatch up Bolivars?

2018-08-14 23:39:14 UTC

When the economy recovers, you can make a handsome profit

2018-08-14 23:39:17 UTC

FOX wants CIA to assassinate him

2018-08-14 23:39:33 UTC

Cause of cooooooooourse they would

2018-08-14 23:40:27 UTC

I'm seriously considering purchasing some Bolivars as an investment

2018-08-14 23:40:55 UTC

Like $50 worth

2018-08-14 23:41:06 UTC

lol invest in the failing currency so when economy eventually recovers your rich?

2018-08-14 23:41:16 UTC

What if it gets Zimbabwe'd?

2018-08-14 23:41:18 UTC

That's the plan!

2018-08-14 23:41:21 UTC

lol

2018-08-14 23:41:26 UTC

They have so much oil, though

2018-08-14 23:41:31 UTC

I mean it's only 50 bucks but still

2018-08-14 23:41:33 UTC

Venezuela, that is

2018-08-14 23:41:49 UTC

buy up the fields

2018-08-14 23:41:49 UTC

Didn't stop it from basically collapsing

2018-08-14 23:42:02 UTC

become an oil baron

2018-08-14 23:42:09 UTC

Nothing is idiot proof, because idiot innovation is ahead of the curve

2018-08-14 23:42:14 UTC

@Dan V don't know if would have profit...

2018-08-14 23:42:21 UTC

Yeah, I'm betting on a more capitalist government taking over once Maduro is murdered

2018-08-14 23:42:37 UTC

its a high risk investment

2018-08-14 23:42:43 UTC

It is

2018-08-14 23:43:01 UTC

But we're talking about less than $100

2018-08-14 23:43:14 UTC

Even spending a dollar in bolivars though, would net you a decent chunk of change

2018-08-14 23:43:17 UTC

How is it different than playing the lottery?

2018-08-14 23:43:26 UTC

SO you either get rich or loose a couple hundred

2018-08-14 23:43:37 UTC

Like that currency is turbo fucked right now

2018-08-14 23:43:45 UTC

ye

2018-08-14 23:43:57 UTC

Well, if Maduro were to be murdered, the ones who commemorate are not living longer....

2018-08-14 23:44:04 UTC

It's worth less than WOW money

2018-08-14 23:44:26 UTC

So, even if it gets back to 50 cents on the dollar, that's a massive profit

2018-08-14 23:44:38 UTC

lol why does that sound familiar?

2018-08-14 23:44:41 UTC

Right but the idea is to spend throwaway money on it

2018-08-14 23:44:47 UTC

Like with crypto

2018-08-14 23:45:16 UTC

It's definitely a get rich quick scheme

2018-08-14 23:45:20 UTC

Ah.... Crypto.... When that bubble is going to explode?

2018-08-14 23:45:42 UTC

But I figure it might be worth the $100. You never know

2018-08-16 13:36:09 UTC

I think their shit is too fucked and they'd have to start their currency from scratch. Also you'd be paying the official conversion rate which is super inaccurate to the Bolivar's actual current value. If you can get enough bills it would be a fun novelty gift to give people huge wads though.

2018-08-16 13:36:59 UTC

Fun to burn

2018-08-17 01:15:01 UTC

XD what was that thing about using it as toilet paper cuz its buckets cheaprr

2018-08-17 21:35:24 UTC

I'm in a weird situation.I'm in a weird s
I've started to volunteer for a local podcast trying to get off the ground and
to put it simply
the host is a literal black woman gender studies major
and both of her "bosses" are white male feminists
However, their goal is not specifically activism. My area has a lot of LGBT rights history and after the last leader of the foundation died they realized they never really catalogued his stories
So mission statement 1 of this cast is going to be to interview local gay geezers for their stories
But all of the phrasing the three used point to "we're two steps away from communists" left
The other volunteer and I agreed about that assessment after we left and when I get back from DC in two weeks I want to start to also push episodes where we do debates and discussions with our adience
it'll be broadcast from the local university's radio station
I'm perfectly fine with working with far-left people, but I'm not quite sure how to get on their level about stuff.
I mentioned a blog where I wrote a short article on JBP and one of the HuWhite men scoffed at it, and later called Lauren Southern an "alt-right darling"
...Granted, I then replied to that with something akin to "as a journalist I don't like that sort of phrasing. I don't know if you're right about that or not because I do not watch her content, so I would like to refrain on judging people before I know more about them than rumor and hearsay."
he gave me a look like I was speaking fucking mandarin
...Granted if this doesn't work out I'll be getting my foot in the door at that university radio station, and I need a volunteer job for my next semester at college. So. hey.
Thoughts?

2018-08-17 21:36:33 UTC

On what you should do or what?

2018-08-17 21:37:30 UTC

Kinda?

2018-08-17 21:38:27 UTC

(censored) them! KC

2018-08-17 21:38:44 UTC

Like, what exactly is your job?

2018-08-17 21:39:03 UTC

We don't know yet

2018-08-17 21:39:13 UTC

officially it's me, a volunteer, an unpaid volunteer host, and two other guys who srot of run it

2018-08-17 21:39:25 UTC

What is expected of you, what rolls do you need to fill, and what do you not understand?

2018-08-17 21:39:30 UTC

We're still settling that out

2018-08-17 21:39:39 UTC

I'm just not sure how I'll work with this group

2018-08-17 21:39:57 UTC

For the most part this'll help me get in the door at the university station

2018-08-17 21:40:24 UTC

The best you can do is remain objective, and reveal nothing about your true beliefs or anything really you do in your free time.

2018-08-17 21:40:33 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2018-08-17 21:40:58 UTC

I've casually stated some of the people I listen to but that my core goal is to objectively display the truths of whatever happens to be going on

2018-08-17 21:41:07 UTC

They didn't seem to believe me much but hey

2018-08-17 21:41:19 UTC

Don't post of social media, and just act fence sitty

2018-08-17 21:41:32 UTC

State only facts.

2018-08-17 21:41:46 UTC

That should keep you mostly under the radar

2018-08-17 21:42:44 UTC

Ask people questions, let them speak without interruping them as much as possible, and report their words verbatim

2018-08-17 21:43:51 UTC

Well yeah

2018-08-17 21:43:59 UTC

that's what they taught me for the last two years in school

2018-08-17 22:00:29 UTC

really? they don't teach yellow journalism?

2018-08-17 22:12:03 UTC

I'm being taught by several ex-CBC writers

2018-08-17 22:12:22 UTC

and one award-winner who's now got multiple books and has nothing but glowing reviews across the board

2018-08-17 23:16:45 UTC

For that situation he was probably a little hurt by the fact that you called his opinion hearsay, despite the fact that it is just that.

2018-08-17 23:17:10 UTC

Depends on how ground standing/good of a relationship you want with these people

2018-08-17 23:22:40 UTC

I'm standing by my opinions without trying to hurt anyone else's feelings

2018-08-17 23:22:59 UTC

It's not really that easy but I'm learning

2018-08-17 23:23:19 UTC

The biggest issue is I'm not sure how receptive to opposing ideas these guys are yet.

2018-08-18 00:53:51 UTC

I mean there are different ways to standby your opinions

2018-08-18 00:54:35 UTC

For example you couldve said something along the lines of "thats interesting, i havent read/watched any of her content yet but ill check her out"

2018-08-18 00:55:35 UTC

If they go on about wasting your time or not trusting them you can simply say the journalism requires legwork and you dont intend to skip it

2018-08-18 00:57:21 UTC

The catch with "alt right darling" is that it can be commentary on either Southern herself or the Alt Right

2018-08-18 00:57:29 UTC

It's not terribly honest

2018-08-18 00:58:48 UTC

Even then though I find a lot of that stuff is bunk anyway. Wasn't that long ago that people pointed to satirical articles to try to paint Peterson as having a large alt-right/white supremacist following

2018-08-18 01:00:28 UTC

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-08-18 01:01:53 UTC

Why exactly is โ€žthe followingโ€œ relevant anyway? The important thing is what someone says, not who is listening.

2018-08-18 01:02:02 UTC

Guilt by association

2018-08-18 01:02:04 UTC

Oh absolutely

2018-08-18 01:02:13 UTC

if people who are bad likes the thing, the person saying it must be bad

2018-08-18 01:02:17 UTC

The argument is that they're obviously saying something that doesn't fit the narrative

2018-08-18 01:02:23 UTC

I love how JBP handles that argument. It usually goes sometihng like

2018-08-18 01:02:23 UTC

Since all these shady characters love them

2018-08-18 01:02:41 UTC

Reproter: most of your followers are men does that concern you?
JBP: Most of Youtube is men, statistically it makes sense.

2018-08-18 01:02:50 UTC

Rinse and repeat.

2018-08-18 01:03:08 UTC

Well and his response to the alt right one is that it just isn't true, and he's right

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