Message from @Beemann

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2018-08-17 21:42:44 UTC  

Ask people questions, let them speak without interruping them as much as possible, and report their words verbatim

2018-08-17 21:43:51 UTC  

Well yeah

2018-08-17 21:43:59 UTC  

that's what they taught me for the last two years in school

2018-08-17 22:00:29 UTC  

really? they don't teach yellow journalism?

2018-08-17 22:12:03 UTC  

I'm being taught by several ex-CBC writers

2018-08-17 22:12:22 UTC  

and one award-winner who's now got multiple books and has nothing but glowing reviews across the board

2018-08-17 23:16:45 UTC  

For that situation he was probably a little hurt by the fact that you called his opinion hearsay, despite the fact that it is just that.

2018-08-17 23:17:10 UTC  

Depends on how ground standing/good of a relationship you want with these people

2018-08-17 23:22:40 UTC  

I'm standing by my opinions without trying to hurt anyone else's feelings

2018-08-17 23:22:59 UTC  

It's not really that easy but I'm learning

2018-08-17 23:23:19 UTC  

The biggest issue is I'm not sure how receptive to opposing ideas these guys are yet.

2018-08-18 00:53:51 UTC  

I mean there are different ways to standby your opinions

2018-08-18 00:54:35 UTC  

For example you couldve said something along the lines of "thats interesting, i havent read/watched any of her content yet but ill check her out"

2018-08-18 00:55:35 UTC  

If they go on about wasting your time or not trusting them you can simply say the journalism requires legwork and you dont intend to skip it

2018-08-18 00:57:21 UTC  

The catch with "alt right darling" is that it can be commentary on either Southern herself or the Alt Right

2018-08-18 00:57:29 UTC  

It's not terribly honest

2018-08-18 00:58:48 UTC  

Even then though I find a lot of that stuff is bunk anyway. Wasn't that long ago that people pointed to satirical articles to try to paint Peterson as having a large alt-right/white supremacist following

2018-08-18 01:00:28 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-08-18 01:01:53 UTC  

Why exactly is „the following“ relevant anyway? The important thing is what someone says, not who is listening.

2018-08-18 01:02:02 UTC  

Guilt by association

2018-08-18 01:02:04 UTC  

Oh absolutely

2018-08-18 01:02:13 UTC  

if people who are bad likes the thing, the person saying it must be bad

2018-08-18 01:02:17 UTC  

The argument is that they're obviously saying something that doesn't fit the narrative

2018-08-18 01:02:23 UTC  

I love how JBP handles that argument. It usually goes sometihng like

2018-08-18 01:02:23 UTC  

Since all these shady characters love them

2018-08-18 01:02:41 UTC  

Reproter: most of your followers are men does that concern you?
JBP: Most of Youtube is men, statistically it makes sense.

2018-08-18 01:02:50 UTC  

Rinse and repeat.

2018-08-18 01:03:08 UTC  

Well and his response to the alt right one is that it just isn't true, and he's right

2018-08-18 01:03:27 UTC  

Most alt-right articles about JBP are calling him a *filthy secret hidden ninja jew agent*

2018-08-18 01:03:37 UTC  

You go to the comments on his posts and videos and memestate kids are raging at him

2018-08-18 01:03:49 UTC  

Calling him a shill and shit

2018-08-18 01:04:28 UTC  

ye

2018-08-18 01:05:48 UTC  

Guilt by association... really gotta love the Blockwart mentality.

2018-08-18 01:05:55 UTC  

si

2018-08-18 01:07:12 UTC  

Then again... not sure if Blockwart or Stasi-IM both fit.

2018-08-18 01:07:37 UTC  

Oh but don't forget, the evil alt right bigot Jordan Peterson just gives common sense self help advice

2018-08-18 01:08:02 UTC  

There's no point in listening to him since you should already know this stuff

2018-08-18 01:09:51 UTC  

Seriously though, JBP's rules should be common sense but that's part of the thing

2018-08-18 01:10:16 UTC  

due to a storm of various simultanious powergrabs and clusterfucks, his simple basic common fucking sense ideas for living smoothly have gone untaught in the last generation or so

2018-08-18 01:10:20 UTC  

Well... a lot of it is stuff you should know yourself, if you were raised correctly...

2018-08-18 01:10:40 UTC  

and by generation I vaguely say people from age 30ish and down, in mostly north america, without specific people in mind