Message from @Beemann
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Depends on how ground standing/good of a relationship you want with these people
I'm standing by my opinions without trying to hurt anyone else's feelings
It's not really that easy but I'm learning
The biggest issue is I'm not sure how receptive to opposing ideas these guys are yet.
I mean there are different ways to standby your opinions
For example you couldve said something along the lines of "thats interesting, i havent read/watched any of her content yet but ill check her out"
If they go on about wasting your time or not trusting them you can simply say the journalism requires legwork and you dont intend to skip it
The catch with "alt right darling" is that it can be commentary on either Southern herself or the Alt Right
It's not terribly honest
Even then though I find a lot of that stuff is bunk anyway. Wasn't that long ago that people pointed to satirical articles to try to paint Peterson as having a large alt-right/white supremacist following
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Why exactly is „the following“ relevant anyway? The important thing is what someone says, not who is listening.
Guilt by association
Oh absolutely
if people who are bad likes the thing, the person saying it must be bad
The argument is that they're obviously saying something that doesn't fit the narrative
I love how JBP handles that argument. It usually goes sometihng like
Since all these shady characters love them
Reproter: most of your followers are men does that concern you?
JBP: Most of Youtube is men, statistically it makes sense.
Rinse and repeat.
Most alt-right articles about JBP are calling him a *filthy secret hidden ninja jew agent*
You go to the comments on his posts and videos and memestate kids are raging at him
Calling him a shill and shit
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Guilt by association... really gotta love the Blockwart mentality.
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Then again... not sure if Blockwart or Stasi-IM both fit.
Oh but don't forget, the evil alt right bigot Jordan Peterson just gives common sense self help advice
There's no point in listening to him since you should already know this stuff
Seriously though, JBP's rules should be common sense but that's part of the thing
due to a storm of various simultanious powergrabs and clusterfucks, his simple basic common fucking sense ideas for living smoothly have gone untaught in the last generation or so
Well... a lot of it is stuff you should know yourself, if you were raised correctly...
and by generation I vaguely say people from age 30ish and down, in mostly north america, without specific people in mind
You mean people who never left the house as children because letting them go on the internet is easier then taking them to a park or something?
Well I think a lot of it is the how
Like I know my generation has been bombarded with a lot of these messages, but in a very superficial, ends-focused manner
Peterson is almost entirely means focused, and doesn't just drop down to platitudes. You won't get a "just work hard"
You'll get "it's important for you to consistently re-examine yourself in a meaningful and critical way, and ask yourself if you're going in the direction that's right for you" and he'll also lay the problem at your own feet
In a world that seems increasingly afraid of assessment and judgement, a simple stern "maybe you need to fix this about yourself first" is probably what a lot of these people need
You can't make anything about yourself unless you have a solid foundation