Is this person under the impression trump supporters hate legal immigrants?

Most of them know trump is from a family of immigrants

Probabaly but I didn't ask. The conversation is a bit of a shitstorm at the moment.

Eh, how are rhey like now?

He's going on about how the travel ban was unconstitutional and just because the 9th ruled it as such made it true.

I'd point out the major other travel bans that previous presidents did

Did that.

Anything more than its different

He's not listening at this point so the whole debate is probably moot. Just fun to watch.

Yeah, no arguing with people like that.

Rule one: you never debate someone to convince then

Them*

Maybe he should visit Arizona sometime.

You do it to convince the fence sitters watching

That's true. lol

Yeah im sure some people jumped the fence after watching that.

Legally though.

Debate is also a skill, so you can have the right stance and points, but deliver them incorrectly.

Yeah that's true.

It's important to keep peoples minds open.

Like in the whole Sargon vs Spencer thing.
What a dumpster fire that was....

Heres the thing as well, learn how to argue like they do and other people will realise how stupid those arguments sound.

Terrible debate but I did learn a lot from it @JadenFrostwolf.

Yeah.

If he says the 9th circuit makes it unconstitutional. Point out daca is unconstitutional for the same reason.

Ok I brought it up and confirmed that he thinks Trump supporters hate immigrants.

Which obviously will need to be clarified as illegal immigrants.

Figures.

I keep saying we and have to correct it. Not american, but if I were, im backing trump.

And I can say with full confidence, vetting is just as logical as you vetting who you decide can come to any party you hold.

So now we are talking DACA which he thinks is constitutional and I posted a video of Obama admitting that what he did was unconstitutional. Probably didn't even watch it. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw4BIWiWyQg>

im sorry but every time i hear daca

i cant not here a greenskin saying dakka

You wanna talk unconstitutional, forget CA and NY gun control. Maryland is where the real violating of the 2nd happens

chicago is just as bad

And Detroit.

I used to live in Maryland. Glad I moved.

Its almost as if there is some kinda trend...

Maryland bans the AR-15 by name, and considers any weapon that you cannot 'distinguish from the banned weapon within 10 seconds while -blindfolded-' as copies and therefore, banned.

But surely it can not ne true that gun tooting homoganous comunities have....less crime?

That would be insane and racist

Mention whar AR stands for

Armalite?

Ya

btw each time its a mass shooting spree im thankful it isnt with a double barrel shotgun

5.56 leaves alot of wounded but alive humans

12 guage in a confined space does not...

and an unskilled shooter can use it acruately and reload effectively once every few seconds

it would be horrorific

alot of people whom dont know fire arms automaticly think a fully auto ar15 is deadly and that older weapons are less so

I remember a friend of mine having to tell a leftist that a bolt action is WAY deadlier then a ar15

People are afraid of things they don't understand.

bruh a old lever action winchester would be terrifying

to speak nothing of a 10 guage

say it with me folks, big hole nothing.

where as with a 5.56 or a 2.23 you got tiny hole little hole

Horrorificly buck tends to not over penetrate which leads to larger trama

people need to think more about the mechanics of the firearm and not the scary barrels and outsides of the gun

And the whole 60% of all gundeaths used to preech how unsafe guns are, are suicides

People also need to realize the reason more people today do not die in warfare like they did in all of history is becuase of the REALLY big guns

nukes

Nukes and weapons have done more to save life and prevent conflict and suffering then they ever have

>.> imma get off my soap box now

Because warfare *totally* wasn't a thing before guns, right?

No one ever killed each other, with anything, or for anything, before the gun, right?

what i mean is.

I was agreeing with you. lol

It's almost like guns don't kill people. People kill people.

after the advent of the nuke, Mutually assured destruction has prevented war

Yeah.

That is entirely untrue @CreativeRealms

Bullets kill people

ffs you leftists fuckers never get it right omg

He was also agreeing with you. lol

You pull the trigger on your freedom launcher

liberty is rung

and then the bullet goes into the bad guy

I know i was being silly =p

^

Violence has solved more conflict then any other force in history until nukes and fully auto rifles came along

now we talk alot.

nukes havent been arround long enough for their true danger to be realized it comes in the form of terrorism using homemade ones in a backpack

Eh yes and no.

Their existence and being held by state actors has indeed lead to unprecidently peace and a lower number of deaths from war.

But the weapon being used by non state actors is indeed troubling

Who got rid of hitler? Men with guns, or students holding placards?

we will see what senior trump does

hahahahahahahahahaha

What stopped wwii?

Technically, Hitler killed Hitler. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

WITH A GUN

Checkmate.

hitler died in argentina

Two nukes

Two scoops

Yeah but we got anime out of them

Shouldve used more

No no no its like the three stooges

we hit them juuuuust right

The nukes dropped on Japan arguably saved lives, too.