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2018-06-14 13:39:46 UTC

this is kinda why i dont want sanfran to be part of north california ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-06-14 13:42:55 UTC

"California still has historically low crime rates despite recent changes in the criminal justice system aimed at reducing mass incarceration and increasing rehabilitation and treatment programs"

i read this as "we have the lowest crime rates **when we stop arresting people for crimes**"

2018-06-14 13:43:27 UTC

"The ballot measure led to the lowest arrest rate in state history in 2015 as experts said police frequently ignored crimes that brought minimal punishment."

2018-06-14 13:44:12 UTC

"Offenders convicted of those crimes were about 3% less likely to be convicted of a new crime within two years, but the researchers said it's not clear if that was because they didn't commit new crimes or because they were less likely to be arrested and prosecuted because of the lower penalties."

oh, looks like i read all that correctly

2018-06-14 14:03:41 UTC

guys

2018-06-14 14:03:46 UTC

the Kellie marie tran story is fake news

2018-06-14 14:03:58 UTC

took me like 30 seconds to figure out it was fake news too

2018-06-14 14:04:56 UTC

and to think he had a freaking loooooong argument about that a week ago

2018-06-14 14:05:42 UTC

There is a big grey area in 'truth in media', obviously lies are lies, wilful ignorance is what it is.. But if you research something and click links x y and z, while I research the same thing and click links a b and c, neither of us are lying, both of us would be able to say the other lied

2018-06-14 14:09:54 UTC

What

2018-06-14 14:11:45 UTC

A good example would be the documentary 'Human Flow', about migrants to Europe. Everything they said was factually correct, but the picture they paint is a complete lie IMO, I was in disbelief watching it, but am I to assume they know better? Should I question if I know better?

2018-06-14 14:13:57 UTC

Or when Mr Tim here researchers a story, the avenues he takes, the things he makes note of, is different to what I would notice. Everyone would follow a different rabbit hole to some extent.

2018-06-14 14:20:37 UTC

There's more information about Tommy Robinson

2018-06-14 14:21:13 UTC

He's in Olney prison

2018-06-14 14:21:53 UTC

@Timcast what was the fake news article?

2018-06-14 14:22:16 UTC

tons of stories saying she deleted her instagram due to harassment

2018-06-14 14:22:27 UTC

I just searched her on Google and saw it.

2018-06-14 14:22:32 UTC

the first stories that came out said "KMT deleted her instagram, was it harassment?"

2018-06-14 14:22:39 UTC

a couple days later it changed to

2018-06-14 14:22:42 UTC

it WAS harassment

2018-06-14 14:22:46 UTC

but there is still no proof

2018-06-14 14:22:53 UTC

in fact an old buzzfeed article just shows tons of people praising her

2018-06-14 14:23:05 UTC

and the "harassment" posted by polygon is shit like

2018-06-14 14:23:11 UTC

"rose was worse than jar jar"

2018-06-14 14:23:22 UTC

Uh, it's Polygon

2018-06-14 14:23:23 UTC

lol

2018-06-14 14:23:23 UTC

Wow. That's... wow.

2018-06-14 14:23:30 UTC

right it is polygon

2018-06-14 14:23:36 UTC

and even THEY are showing no real harassment

2018-06-14 14:23:43 UTC

their evidence is people being like "duymb movie"

2018-06-14 14:24:29 UTC

Is it weird to me that I'm starting to think that they're trying to stoke the flames to try and make actual harassment with reverse psychology?

2018-06-14 14:25:00 UTC

So why did she delete her Instagram, Actually?

2018-06-14 14:25:12 UTC

I don't know if that's the goal but it will 100% be the result.

2018-06-14 14:25:44 UTC

the only clue as to why she did is that she has posted in the apst how she doesnt like social media

2018-06-14 14:26:10 UTC

according to Pew women are harassed way less than men overall

2018-06-14 14:26:16 UTC

so the anrrative about women being harassed is a myth

2018-06-14 14:26:19 UTC

but you have to wonder why

2018-06-14 14:26:20 UTC

well

2018-06-14 14:26:30 UTC

men dont complain about harassment so no one talks about it

2018-06-14 14:26:34 UTC

and men dont for two main reasons

2018-06-14 14:26:37 UTC

one, they dont care

2018-06-14 14:26:43 UTC

two, they will be mocked if they do

2018-06-14 14:27:03 UTC

women receive was less harassment tahn men but seem to only ever talk about it

2018-06-14 14:27:08 UTC

squeeky wheel gets the grease

2018-06-14 14:27:10 UTC

This reminds me of how RDJ was ignored during #metoo

2018-06-14 14:27:44 UTC

The pedophilia issue was only slightly brought up

2018-06-14 14:27:46 UTC

Terry Crews would've been ignored, too, if he weren't always so vocal as a character.

2018-06-14 14:28:40 UTC

Reddit also loves Terry.

2018-06-14 14:30:28 UTC

Like I said. I'm just getting hints of it all over. I'm not saying it's the same thing.

2018-06-14 14:32:33 UTC

I posted the FB post about Tommy in shitposting, if anybody is interested

2018-06-14 15:29:32 UTC

Dominos is fixing roads... isn't that literally what we pay taxes for? https://jalopnik.com/dominos-is-fixing-americas-crappy-roads-for-pizza-safet-1826736405

2018-06-14 15:31:57 UTC

Nah you pay taxes for government administrators and welfare

2018-06-14 15:32:18 UTC

You pay them so they record the fact that you pay them and they get paid

2018-06-14 15:32:53 UTC

I'm sure dominos is doing it as a publicity stunt

2018-06-14 15:33:10 UTC

Not as any kind of service

2018-06-14 15:33:15 UTC

And that ofc, No company is gonna roll out free fixes unless it nets them SOMETHING in profit

2018-06-14 15:33:23 UTC

@Timcast if you look at that pew research it says men get more harassment but care less about it... which could mean men care less.. or it could be the harassment is different towards women, which I would lean to IMO

2018-06-14 15:34:01 UTC

@wacka is this the pew research you're talking about?


http://www.pewinternet.org/2017/07/11/online-harassment-2017/

2018-06-14 15:34:50 UTC

yeah looks familiar.. havent seen it in ages.. but looks the same

2018-06-14 15:34:56 UTC

It states that 44% of men and 37% of women experience harrassment

2018-06-14 15:35:23 UTC

It's interesting, more men support freedom of speech

2018-06-14 15:35:37 UTC

yeah and women find it a major problem whereas men less so

2018-06-14 15:36:10 UTC

which to me .. could signify that women get different harassment

2018-06-14 15:36:57 UTC

with men it more likely of an IQ nature ... and with women its more likely a sexual nature.. (thats just my opinion)

2018-06-14 15:37:25 UTC

That, Or men care less

Men rip on eachother all the time, they get thick skinned due to them knowing its just banter
Wamen don't do it, so they don't see it as banter, and instead as actual aggression

2018-06-14 15:37:44 UTC

The study states women get sexualised forms of harrassment

2018-06-14 15:37:51 UTC

*more women

2018-06-14 15:38:03 UTC

what are you talking about? women rip each other all the time

2018-06-14 15:38:09 UTC

And men receive more harrasment based on their political opinions

2018-06-14 15:38:35 UTC

if anything.. they do it more ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-06-14 15:38:38 UTC

yes but they do it to be mean,

Men call eachother fag in a friendly way

2018-06-14 15:38:50 UTC

53% of women receives explicit images they never asked for

2018-06-14 15:39:04 UTC

like how the internet people call eachother shit-lords

2018-06-14 15:39:09 UTC

anyway dinner, so afk

2018-06-14 15:39:11 UTC

And 21% report being sexually harassed

2018-06-14 15:39:23 UTC

Online, that is

2018-06-14 15:40:44 UTC

But, only 16% of men report harrassment being extremely or very upsetting, while 35% of women say the same

2018-06-14 15:42:17 UTC

see if harassment to men and women was the same... my guess is, that those numbers would be similar

2018-06-14 15:42:55 UTC

I think both you and Jayred are right.

2018-06-14 15:43:29 UTC

and there are some things I suppose you could say to men but wouldnt say to a women... like Derg, you fat son of a bitch ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-06-14 15:44:05 UTC

Men care less, and more women get sexually harassed, stuff like dickpics sent to them

2018-06-14 15:44:51 UTC

probably intersects when the harassment is peronal appearance attacks.. I imagine moremen wouldnt care about that

2018-06-14 15:45:07 UTC

And...it's likely the men have different standards for what counts as Sexualised abuse

2018-06-14 15:45:09 UTC

but I imagine less men would say that to women

2018-06-14 15:46:02 UTC

I couldn't think of any kind of online harrassment to me, that I would count as "sexualized abuse"

2018-06-14 15:46:50 UTC

A guy sends a girl a dickpic, for her that's abuse. If a girl sends a guy a pic of her cunt, that rarely counted as "harrassment"

2018-06-14 15:47:09 UTC

I can only guess light blue is female here?... odd not to have a key.. http://www.pewinternet.org/2017/07/11/online-harassment-2017/pi_2017-07-11_online-harassment_0-04/

2018-06-14 15:47:39 UTC

so they did get the numbers for physical appearance harassment

2018-06-14 15:48:34 UTC

Derg... if a bunch of women send you pics you wouldnt be bothered... how about 50 guys sending you their junk?

2018-06-14 15:49:35 UTC

I would laugh it off, tbh

2018-06-14 15:50:00 UTC

Like, that sort of stuff doesn't really disturb me

2018-06-14 15:50:36 UTC

How about you?

2018-06-14 15:51:04 UTC

it would be very anoying

2018-06-14 15:51:36 UTC

especially if it wasnt filterable/blockable and sent to my work email

2018-06-14 15:52:27 UTC

ok I see the point of that chart now...

2018-06-14 15:54:55 UTC

wow 15% of people who witnessed (not even received) non-severe harassment stopped using the online service

2018-06-14 15:55:45 UTC

imagine any time someone witness mild harassment on twitter 15% of the time quit.... there would be no users left in a week ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-06-14 16:03:44 UTC

I wonder what happens if you send a guy a dick pic from a dude vs a chick a tit or vag pic from another chick. If they report that as harassment.

2018-06-14 16:04:00 UTC

or sexual harassment

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