@Deller It's a fact that only a majorty of whites support gun right so why isn't it needed to have a majorty white country to have gun right?

So, yeah, When you have decisions based on ex-cons and some *human* deciding whether or not they're likely to commit another bad act, given that no judge is really 100% fair

it kinda draws lines I don't like

Facts don't care about your feelings Adolf.

You could get racist judges who think in the back of his mind that all blacks are scum

I really don't wanna go down the ethno-whatever rabbit hole.

I don't think all blacks are scm they just won't keep the west western if they are in the majorty.

I told you before I'm a race realist in the sense that I know that on average they have lower IQ's

They can have their own countires and we can have our countries.

I think they will, provided they have the right cultural background and are willing to assimilate into western culture

Different races were separated all across the board and welcome to human tech, we are now global for the most part

The problem right now is we have groups coming in with no desire to assimilate culturally

That’s a problem

Yeah

@Deller Liberia was a country modeled after America but it didn't keep a western culture becase it's a black country. Don't you ever wonder why non white countires aren't western?

The best examples I've seen for successful integration were the vietnamese and the koreans into the US

@Deller Agreed

Some of the taiwanese are doing a good job too

but they're kinda weird about it

There’s a reason most refugees end up in ghetto communities, and devolve into crime. They don’t assimilate into the country they’re in

Black immigrants actually do fairly well, if I recall. The fresh-off-the-boat types.

The Waiwanese aren't western and they are doing a good job becase of their IQ.

Indians and latinos are the opposite

they isolate themselves to different projects for the most part

The fresh off the boat Black American immigrants do really well. It’s the descendants of American slaves that do shit

yes

@OliveBlanc why do you think that is?

The american blacks have major cultural issues

Because they have this idea that “succeeding in the white mans world makes you as bad as them”

And socioeconomic difficulties

And they belittle & bully people in their community that they deem “too white”

I would not fathom to attempt to explain what indians and latinos have in common that makes them not want to integrate

Immigrant black are more likely to have functioning families.

Why do asians do well then?

I would think for the indians, it's because many of them are not here 100% citizenry

Asians assimilate really well as do Nigerians

Asians respect the culture work hard and have functioning families.

It’s why they’re the most successful ethnic groups in America

They do well but they don't assimilate.

The ones that succeed do

I've found that blacks from nigeria/SA/ethiopia are very anti-gun

Just about everything else they're fine with

Look lads it's been an iteresting discussion but I need to go now.

and I understand why they're against it

That’s probably because they’ve put up with actual machine gun violence

yes.

And without a local militia to actually defend them

They’ve seen real weapons of war in action, not just hunting rifles

Eh, most of the ex US military is totally fine with guns

I think it's the fervent abuse of power combined with having firearms arbitrarily pointed at them that's probably at the core

The veterans use the guns from a positon of strength and not of being a victim.

and seeing their families chopped to bits and raped

yeah

I think I would almost put that out as a reason how they are not integrating

As it stands from the hunting/2gun/3gun/target shooting/elr communities; I'm cool with american gun culture in those respects

I am not cool with random gang bangers holding their straw purchased "problem solvers" towards innocent people or other stupid gangbangers

I would just like to cut out a quarter of the firearms deaths in the country

I don't think that's far fetched and with the right legislation it could be reality

it doesn't even take significant amounts of cash

Until the black start taking responsibility for their own communities again the problem is not going to go away.

Going after straw purchases is a big one, but of course if police start doing that we’re gunna hear cries of racism

The real question is will the police respond with “tough shit” or will they cave to the complaints

But if they start enforcing the laws we have how are they going to put new ones in place.

1) Make it so that the depressed or suicidal can seek council without repercussion in regards to firearm rights
2) Push societal changes to be both more open to seeking help for such things while also encouraging people to take more responsibility
3) [a second piece of #1] If a person is determined to be of significant risk and needs to have their weapons confiscated at least temporarily, make it easy and straightforward to get their property back

Nah dude; targeting the black/latino gang community is not what I had in mind

That's a fucking problem that I don't have a good solution for

Pretty much anything I could conceive of that would work would be inherently racist

and that's not really where I want to go with shit

curb your supremecy

The gang problem will continue until the communities start to work with the police to fight them.

Honestly most people with severe mental illness should need a qualified doctor’s approval for firearm ownership. The problem is if you start a program like that are you just going to deter people from getting treatment

ashkenazi jews are more intelligent than whites on average

tbh just always more inteligent

you don't even need the average part

See, that's what I'm saying, you need to get rid of the deterrents for people seeking treatment

a bit of a paradox though

what if giving someone guns boosts their serotonin

and gets them out of a depression spiral

with firearms getting more stigmatized across the US; it's less and less likely folks will seek treatment (Because they find some solace in that right; even though they're pretty much holding on to their grave)

yes; it does

a lot of PTSD folks from the mil are like that

I think guns need to be more normalized across the board

i grew up in a libtard household and never actually went to a range or anything but i don't feel they are dangerous nor make me feel powerful to hold one

Your family members do though.

mhmm

I would say you're a femboyfox outlier

i played too many shooters so the first thing that comes to mind would be strategy if anything

I went to college late; and I had built up quite an arsenal then

OH wow sed works

That's fuckin' cool.

Anyways; yeah, Like a /handful/ of fuckers from my classes had even *touched* a firearm

minuscule.

They were all afraid of them "Why do I need them?" "Do you really think you'll be able to defend yourself from *the government*?"

etc etc etc

i've watched quite a bit of liveleak videos with criminals

over and over tired cliches of the same talking points heard from /k/ flamebait

it kinda conditioned me to make better decisions when encountering the police

lol

ie don't tense up and cooperate as much as possible

else you might get fuckin shot