@Vannevariable Well they were trying to mislead. And I think the worst was when the media turned on Bill O'Reilly for pointing out that it was bad news for the left

again, they turn on their own

My immediate feeling was that their anger was truly driven by the fact that he refused to play along with the narrative that Ruth has more years of service in her

Some news sites are calling it a pulmonary lobectomy

Yeah thats the correct name

She has four lobes of lung left

Yeah from what I've read, her lungs should recover fine from the surgery. But you watch her in interviews and she seems to struggle to get the energy to talk, even before the surgery. Something doesn't look right

I've seen a guy on TV who is 107 years old and he seems to have more energy then Ruth

With two changes the ACA would be the best reform for healthcare insurance I could imagine. First, replace the now eliminated individual mandate with a hefty monthly penalty to add insurance later - something like 150% or double premium for two years. Make it really hurt to add coverage once you get sick to help remove the incentive to insure only when you need it. Something like that was in the attempted 2017 reform. Second, increase the cap for subsidies to keep premiums at a certain amount of income to something much higher even as the fraction of income taken up with healthcare costs rises with increased ability to pay. Current it caps at 4x the poverty level and 10% of income applied actuarial to health care costs (premium, deductibles, and copays). Make it more like 12x or 16x poverty and caps at 25% or so of income at the top of the subsidies. People are still responsible for their costs, but only to a certain point.

After that, then we need to actually fix healthcare which is an entirely different matter no one has really taken on yet.

As far as the Green New Deal, I still maintain the original New Deal was a good thing. That said, I don't think a response to what could have been a collapse of constitutional rule in the US would be the right medicine for energy. Any solution to our energy mess that doesn't take advantage of the enormous uranium reserves in North America is foolish. Focus our efforts on 4th Gen fission reactors to provide baseline to wind and solar that will provide power for AC and to heat homes when we need peak energy. Nuclear power can be banked up or down to fill whatever gap is presented by the "renewables". Also, oceanic/tidal power is reliable and another solution if we can accept it might hurt some sea life. I'll accept that just like I accept the impact on fish presented by dams.

When we have too much power generation from renewables and nuclear, use that to make HYDROGEN. H2 can then be used for all sorts of things where currently we use CNG.

Hydrogen combusts into water. A little investment in safe storage and distribution of compressed H2 and we could have cars that go wherever we want and and homes that burn H2 to provide warm air and hot water - just like we currently do with CNG.

And the win for me is that once this is widespread across the industrialized world, no one will need oil and the Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia can go back to whatever they do when they don't have the entire world paying them jizya. No more billions to fund terror.

That's my Green New Deal - redirecting the green away from people who hate us and instead to the creation of wealth for those who produce things that truly further civilization as we in the west believe it should be. Based on free markets and classically liberal principles of individual agency.

And they lived happily ever after :p

it's an interesting concept. I too would like to see more nuclear (uranium-rod or thorium-slurry) power

imagine phones with batteries of nuclear power

dang Cat

you and I agree on something finally

FUCKING NUCLEAR POWER

I have a dream...

we would be really active 😄

of Vibrators..

made of Uranium Rods

were nuclear

oh damn

I'M NUCLEAR
I'M WILD

they wouldnt need the D to have something come out of them

Equality is a total lie. Prove me wrong.
(Pro Tip, you can't)

Socialism is Slavery. Prove me wrong.

@Kepler x = x
checkmate
communism: established

Can you feel it? That's the feeling of all your food vanishing

if the periodicaly put inside themselves uranium then something would crawl out

@Copernicus that just means 0=0

So, did you guys know that America is about to become Communist?

True story.

True Horror Story.

@Copernicus in other words perfect poverty

I'm serious.

"perfect"
stopped reading there, let's do it

Everyone is in denial.

@Copernicus cus x = x isnt infinite it is 0 = 0

how do you know x isn't infinite

Socialism forces too many people to consume more than they produce.

@Copernicus no mater what they do it will always be the same and will continiu in downfall

Hello?

@Kepler I'd respond but I'm kind of shitposting right now

lol, but there isn't much time/

America's not gonna go commie, the neoliberal oligarchs in charge don't want that to happen, so it won't happen

I'm doing a sociological experiment.

@Copernicus which means that in the end you have nothing left becoase no matter what you do you will be losing more and more and not even gaining anything

Yes America is in fact going to be come communist unless the military intervenes. It is a fact.

Well, sure; the continuous expansion of the state will eventually get you into a situation that greatly resembles socialism

No, LITERAL COMMUNISM.

@Kepler or civil militia on bigger scale then Facsists Antifa

China is making a move.

china?

USSR propaganda made us vulnerable to the CCP's infiltration.

Yeah I know, it sucks

The Chinese Communist Party controls all of the Chinese corporations.

I still don't think that's going to result in a communist USA

Xi Jinping is literally the modern day Hitler/Stalin

they already have BIG BROTHER camera system in cities

Socialists don't ask consent.

socialists have to contend with all our guns

^

@Kepler wonder how women will ask for consent xD

They implanted security vulnerabilities into the majority of our Chinese produced hardware.

Unironically, if the socialists try anything over here we'll just start killing them

@Vannevariable that is what i meant by civil militia

There's no software vulnerability in a molotov cocktail

We are sitting ducks

You can't hack baseball bats

There are Communists in charge of making and enforcing our laws, This is also verified.

we can see that

Trump is last stand

The Gun restrictions have been taking away the purpose of the 2nd amendment.

US Citizens cannot even own armor.

if Hilary was elected you guys would have had Communism

Tanks and Blacks hawks beat Militia

You assume that the US military would side with the Government.

Basically, long story short, the Military is going to resist the Socialist take over.

depends

There is a plan.

who would go against their country?

I doubt the Rank and file would in the case of "An attempted take over by the government" would go for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVOQmspL84k

Is your "sociological experiment" just you spitballing the plot of your latest political thriller novel? @Kepler

because I'd totally read it

It is a 100% true story.

Write that on the book jacket and I'd buy it

I am writing a book too,

lol

https://youtu.be/ysIDjxiPCHM

problem: military is under the power of the POTUS. the executive branch has direct control over the command, and the legislative has direct control of the payroll. the entirety of the military isn't going to mobilize against their own superiors

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/06/13/whatever-happened-to-that-communist-lieutenant-the-army-wont-say/

This caused a hissy fit among the NATO allies

Trump is a real president. He is intelligent, and he has good intentions.

He knows a lot more than all of us.

Slap on the wrist most likely

ehhhhhhh that's debatable

dude was probably a troll

Don't be egotistical...

He is older and wiser than us.

older, yes. wiser, I need evidence

Know your own strength man...

Do you really think there aren't bigger fish than you?

I haven't seen a single thing about myself

What have you really accomplished in your life that makes you worthy of jumping to conclusions about Trump?

uhhh

Think about it.

being an american citizen?

Equality is a lie.

A Genius is not Equal to a Moron.

I'm not jumping to conclusions. I have seen several decisions he has made that have been very questionable and are not evidence of wisdom

There are actual Geniuses in our military.

Trump is probably a Genius too.

lol

You don't know shit from Shinola if you really believe Trump doesn't play dumb a lot.

I don't think so, I think he's a narcissistic psychopath (by the psychological definition) which means he does very well in the system we have. it doesn't make him any more intelligent or virtuous than anyone else, just better at exploiting the system

He is over 70 years old.

what does age have to do with it?

You are wrong about Trump. Open your mind.

Go take a walk in the moonlight

It has to do with your perception of him and how you gauge competence.

Don't be a moron.

no it doesn't. gauging competence doesn't have anything to do with age in my paradigm

I'm a meritocrat

Remember, the Average I.Q. is only 100

false

the average iq is below 95

Exactly,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwxqOoIyWm0
CNN
And Fox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdYLVo-oazc
Same press event Trump is rather presidential and he even to Putins face express criticism of election meddling.
Because he did mot screech at putin. The US mainstream media berated him.

Thanks

The Russia Story is a Hoax

I don't have enough info to say either way

Well, it is a Hoax

I need evidence of that

I don't have time to type you a book....

The information is out there.

I'm not asking from you specifically, but I may look into it

99% of Americans are Ignorant right now.

The Chinese Communist Party is making their move.

also, iq is not a measurement of wisdom

You are right, but I.Q. is still significant.

Most people don't develop wisdom until they're in their 60's anyway,

The Chinese are not wise.

They are arrogant, and they HATE America and the West.

Learn about your enemy, they will have no mercy on us if they catch us off guard.

your language is very inflammatory. I don't necessarily disagree with your points, but I would like more in-depth discussion than simply buzz-word language

I am of the conviction that 8th grade syndrome among adults is a big contributer to the situation.
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chuunibyou>

oh, the dunning-kruger effect

I have not heard that term before

it's the "don't know what you don't know" effect. basically like how a sports fan complains about players being dumb in the game while they've never set foot on the pitch in their life

they don't understand how complex what they're talking about is

Gotcha

or like those who say "print more money" when we say we owe so much money to another country. they propose very simple, matter-of-fact solutions that are absurd but sound logical to those who don't know anything about it

I also think I am getting old and cranky. Most debates I participate in I spend the firs 15 min trying to understand how the other party defines words.

same, because they use words that are entirely subjective

brb

@GoldenPhoenix Does the word "Triggered" mean anything to you?

The Psychology term; not the buzz word.

"Protesters have set cars alight and left them to burn in the streets of the capital city,..." So, they set random cars in flame, that'll increase their popularity. -_-
https://www.usanewstimes.online/2018/12/30/paris-goes-up-in-flames-as-the-eiffel-tower-is-shrouded-by-a-pall-of-black-smoke/

WTF is that?

_Western culture_ as term meant the stories of the classical greek and roman empires, the middle ages and the renaissance in primarily europe.
Now
_Western culture_ is synonymous with white male oppressors and the study makes you a racist nazi

Perfect

Thank you, exactly

Yes, "trigger" refers to a stimulus that activates a symptomatic response of a psychological disorder. Relevance?

My supposed "Buzz Words" Triggered a conditioned negative response; everyone in our society has been the victim of reprisal that forces them to remain overly neutral to avoid being lambasted.

Yes, as buzz words are designed to do. My negative response was more towards the lack of evidence based discussion backing up the claims you made that have words with very specific meanings

Emotionally charged words are made for an emotional response, which is detrimental to argumentative procedure

My "buzz words" are literal definitions while the opposition's argument to my view is entirely comprised of made up words, like "Racism, Sexism, Socialism, Gender, Hate Speech, exetra... "

There is no such thing as Hate Speech.

That is inflammatory because someone created the imaginary concept beforehand.

Your argument thus far has had no mention of hate speech

It is a prime example.

It has primarily concerned the question of wisdom in our president

Hate Speech cannot have a legal definition because it is entirely subjective.

The President is wise, and he is intelligent; a Genius.

Yes, but you're using a red herring fallacy to avoid the question

Also, where is the evidence of his IQ being over 130?

His behavior,

There are many types of intelligence.\

Behavior is not substantial evidence of genius

And genius is strictly defined

Genius behavior is substantial evidence of Genius.

There are countries with specific definitions for hate speech that are not subjective

If you want to just make things black and white to two dimensionalize the argument into either 140 I.Q. + Score or he is not a Genius,

Then, you can end the Conversation there.

Then please don't use defined terms in ways for which they weren't intended

That is the legal definition. The "Strict Definition" you mentioned.....

Yes. It is

We agree

But there is a lot more to it than that.

There are different types of intelligence that are not measured and there are learning curves that are not accurately projected.

There is no accounting for the telomere length of the subjects DNA...

What is the correlation between cellular age and intelligence?

Slower cellular aging, slower phase shifting = Longer developmental periods/

Longer telomere count = greater potential.

But intelligence isn't linked to cellular age, it's linked to synaptic connection

Wrong,

Evidence please?

Your skill level is directly correlated to the amount of time that you spend practicing during the phases of development.
Practice is a requirement, and time is a part of the practice equation.

Yes but "you" are a multicellular being who are being constantly replaced on a microscopic level

Practice produces synaptic connections, which don't depend on cellular age

Longer telomere, slower aging.
Less cellular degradation per regeneration.

This correlated to the aging process.

The amount of cellular degeneration throughout your development influences and triggers the ends and beginnings of phases of development.

Perhaps, but brain cells don't divide the same way other cells do, and this is moot anyway without evidence of this particular effect affecting our president

Your brain uses 60% of your bodies energy. The memory capacity depends on the long term longevity of certain brain matter, but there is in fact cellular regeneration in the brain; the claims that brain cells never grow back was drug war propaganda that was proven wrong.

Red herring. Provide evidence of Donald Trump being exceptionally intelligent beyond the average scope of presidential historical precedent

Did you watch his live debates?

Have you head about his micro-managing?

Do you see how effective his branding is?

He can manipulate the subconscious like a pro.

He plays 4D chess like a MOFO.

Yes, his debates were minimal at best. His micromanaging is overreach, and his subconscious and branding manipulation is evidence of psychopathy, not genius

LMAO...

"Minimal at Best"

Really????

What would you have done?

Imagine your cowardly self on that stage.

I wouldn't say it's 4D chess, he's just good at getting his opponents to cave in to animal rage and dive into the mud hoping to beat him on his own turf.

LOL , are you really all so conceited?

Think about it.....

The entire online leftist news media leapt at a chance to crow that Trump had an ugly penis.

I call that a victory for Trump.

The Corporations control the media, and they are trying to please the Communists. They hate America.

I would have answered self consistently, but that doesn't win elections according to today because people don't want consistency, just what they want to hear

When you tell people the truth, they hate you for it and slip into denial.

Trump is smarter than us.

Be humble

Don't be arrogant.

I need evidence of that to believe it, because the evidence right now is mixed at best

I'm not arrogant, I'm skeptical

Everything thinks they are not ignorant while there is an infinite amount of knowledge to learn.
We are all ignorant, and we will all die ignorant.

That's not the argument

But we cab improve,

This is true

So can he

And I hope he does

No, he is 70

Do you understand that?

Do you understand that people age?

Do you understand that people quit developing at some point....

I understand he's 70, but learning isn't limited to an age range, only the speed

Lupin. You are being obtuse with your last statements /questions

You're sitting here with the utmost contempt for the man; thinking you're smarter than Trump....

lol

You need PROOF