humans are lazy if they're allowed to be lazy

gosh dang it

Its like we dont have to worry how sewers work or where to take out the thrash etc

i'm gettin the urge





to purge

So having less iq is less important, its why they breed like crazy

because lower iq people are less productive?

and more likely to leap before they look?

well technically speaking smart people have the power and means to kill the lesser iq people

yes

but human nature is illogical

it's called planned parenthood

fuck me this 10 second delay is actually kind of annoying

Lol basically ppl dont have to think to survive anymore

And thats what i meant by my earlier statement

the question is to what degree should you compromise - money is paper we exchange instead of cutting the wood ourselves

well it's either that or bartering quid quo pro

which makes government irrelevant

Ttaditonalism would kill society as we k ow iy

and we can't have that

which also makes the arts irrelevant

We need as many jobs as possible to keep everyone employed no matter how mundane they are

art was killed by industrial scale processing

processing and publishing*

The world would literally collapse if we lost mcdonalds

im not afraid the old and established arts will go anywhere, im more so concerned with the new arts. the old arts are already old and they always will be thats what gives them security

well

not always. the older forms of art, high art; was predicated on generous donations from the aristocracy and royalty.

you need to have tradition in order keep it culturally relevant.

art isn't just the people who create it and/or consume it

it's the people who fund it and whatever industries or sectors that make it possible.

and tradition will gain importance the faster we chase for the future

not really.

tradition is something that is ingrained in an individual during their formative years.

it's not something that has objective value.

unless you're a hipster, inwhich case it only has value if it is something foreign

my point comes from the fact we've never conserved more than in the modern times

Tradition has been thrown away over and over. Even christianity was a betrayal of tradition. There was something else before that. Weve definetly throw more away the more we modernize

Even monogamy is a fairly new concept, or the nuclear family

monogamy is not a new concept

i lost 12 IQ points just reading your inane drivel

I gotta get my hands dirty. And a few hundred years is fairly new.

monogamy has been around since before recorded history

Well ill retract what i said somewhat, since not all humans believe in monogamy.

the societies that don't practise monogamy are few and far between.

just because there are a few exceptions to the rule, does not mean that the rule is disproven, or that it should no longer apply.

Well when i said what i said i had abrahamic religions in mind minus islam. I was wrong to say monogamy is new.

In nature the norm is Serial monogamy... a couple get together and have and raise an off spring... after the child is raised they will split up... the next common is the harem

@ʇooNʇooN *"i'd argue that tim's lack of indoctrination from higher education has meant that he's more able to inform himself and avoid the biases that are taught to people who go through the degree mill"*
...and despite that, he still managed to become a feminist anarchocommunist via skate boarding culture and listening to punk music.

Even though he has lately (although slowly) backed away from such nonsense.

He still uses "redlining" argument for "institutional racism", etc. nonsense. What about lead pipes, lead paint and the good old slavery. How can niggers have high IQ because of slavery?

blacks usually dont have a high degree yet 70% vote democrat

Higher eduction doesnt exactly protect you from biases

Yeah, you don't need to go to university to become "progressive". Niggers manage to do it just fine.

In my experience it makes people far more entrenched in their own ideas

Sure, they don't become all the way progressive. Just "gibs me dats" while beating up gays like rednecks do (in their imagination).

Niggers are the true rednecks.

When you have a bias at somepoint you have to ask yourself why you feel that way

well it surely gives people confidence when they have an important degree and that always goes together with being stubborn about changing your opinion

if you have an education your mind is at ease because your a well educated intelligent person who bases things in facts

also im pretty sure that whiic has some real life troubles

because he said niggers?

Lets not snipe at people for rl shit unless its related to the conversation

you give the man too much credit, id say hes edgy at best

yeah you are porobably right

i figured as much when the im gonna say the word meme went around

i'd would just advice whiic to not refer to any black person as niggers as that only makes you look unintelligent and close minded

I don't refer to blacks as niggers. I refer to some category of people as niggers.

Niggers are disproportionally black, tho.

youre doing a disservice to your argument by calling them a name instead of whatever adjective fits best

>not all niggers are black

ladies and gentlemen, sargon has entered the building

Lol

i think i know what whiic is on about

in a very niece way you can use the word niggermentality

it's okay to be white

wo says otherwise?

surely not the nationalistic march songs im currently listening to

Im currently in Norway. The TV in the Hotel restaurant showed a huge pic of Bernie with the caption _Bernie blir præsident_ [SIC] literal meaning _Bernie becomes President_ i guess there is no reason to hold primaries or general election, caused the MSM crowned their king.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XMdT2cF-ZM --- The first 20 minutes of this is golden. It's some Antifa type arguing with a broadcaster who has sympathy with Peterson's message. Guess which side goes insane? Not difficult. This isn't that one in a million case of a valid counter-example to what is the norm.

It's pretty entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvPBZCitHsA Remember, we're all at war here against big tech giants like Apple. Support freedom of speech at Silicon Valley's expense or die.

awwww @whiic you are killing me here. "Sure, they don't become all the way progressive. Just "gibs me dats" while beating up gays like rednecks do (in their imagination)."

It's not their imagination. It is fact. https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/victims

Here is some more information. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/16/us/hate-crimes-against-lgbt.html

Lgbt so four different classes of people and is it per capita?

Well considering that being lgbt tends to have more issues tacked along with them

I'm also certian blacks can't be rednecks because a redneck was used to identify people who worked in the feild so much that when they took off their shirt, their back was white and their neck was red

Its a reference to thomas sowells book.

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama Wealth Poverty And Politics?

Black rednecks and white liberals

Can you evaluate?

I don't have a whole lot of context to work with

@The Yellow King Per capita? It explicitly tells you the exact figures. Please read

Its alot of text. Also lgbt ppl are 3x more likely to suffer from mental health conditions

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama prove it

And the book itself is a context for culture.

not telling us a whole lot

https://www.nami.org/find-support/lgbtq

http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/lgbt-mental-health

Its quoted alot

first paragraph "However, you may experience more negative mental health outcomes due to prejudice and other biases. Knowing what challenges you may face as a member of the LGBTQ community and how to find and work with LGBTQ-inclusive providers can help ensure more positive outcomes."

So mental health doesn't cause hatecrimes. It's the other way around

I have no idea what it is you are trying to prove. Someone said rednecks don't harm gays and I literally proved him wrong by pointing out they are the most likely to be involved in a hate crimes

But see the problem is isnt blacks the most opressed?

that's not the argument

Why is it whites are more diagnosed with mental illness than black if thats the case?

the argument is wether or not rednecks harm gays

Just throwing all the racist rhetoric at the wall and hoping something sticks

try sticking to... oh i dunno... the point

Its not racist if were talking about ppl who "suffer" or experience hate crime

no one said anything about race

stop distracting

Especially since in this day and age more and more lgbt are catered 2. And were talking about the effects one experiences for things that cant be helped

Niggers are racist.

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama Are you trying to argue that the fact they are beaing catered to is the cause of increased hatecrimes against them?

Likewise, life was much tougher than before than it is now and therefore more traumatizing.

Not sure what you are trying to prove. Are you high or something?

That applies to some. Before the whole trans issue went mainstream, most trans ppl could go to w.e bathropm they wanted

But now that its in public view, its an issue to everybody when no1 cared before

I literally don't care about trans bathrooms or whatever

But trans ppl do. Thats what they feel "discriminated" for

You sound like you have a very bad case of ADHD. Just can't stay focused can you?

Ok how do lgbt ppl get to the mental state that they are in if your so sure?

Tgat its society

YOUR OWN SOURCE EXPLAINED THAT

lol you are either really high or rally retarded

I mean I'm high to the point of barley being functional and I can crush your arguments in my sleep

It didnt say why. I did say that other people dont suffer the same way despite being discriminated againts

Therefore they are different in some way

The suicide rate for trans people is too high for me to ever chalk it up to oppression or discrimination

That does not explain why they are the leaders in hatecrime victims

Likewise america isnt filled with confedarates, lgbt ppl stick to liberal cities with no kkk or trump supporters

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama prove it

Cause they report it that way. Looking at a person the wrong way is a hate crime and not just regular crime

don't care about your theories. show the proof

Actually it does not matter. Because gays are STILL number 1 in hatecrime REGUARDLESS of where they live

the offenders are almost always pro white right wing extreamist

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/offenders

Hitler did nothing wrong, ex ante.

Well first id need to remove micro agressions

More information on the type of hatecrimes using the same 2017 sample https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/incidents-and-offenses

Hatecrime doesn't exist.

The argument is wether or not rednecks kill gays

hatecrime definitions are irrelevant

You're gay.

err, not kill but harm

Kill yourself faggot.

This is MAGA country.

I'm going to have to praise you for using proper grammar to say that

LOL

fuck off back to 4chan pleb

Muslims kill gsys tho thats for sure

Not many lgbt ppl have died via hate crime

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama in the US?

Im referring to the orlando nightclub incident

In london I believe they've started

Muslims are racist to gays.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/08/self-loathing-gay-people-shame

Its also lgbt ppl hurting other lgbt ppl

oh look what Google found https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/u-s-muslims-more-accepting-homosexuality-white-evangelicals-n788891

Thr night club shooter being an example. He was also gay

modern Islam is not INHERENTLY homophobic

Ill believe that if they can marry in mosques

Lol, you'll believe anything google tells you.

... Well now I have no faith in you as a human being if you're ignorant to how islam behaves and spreads

Yeah. The FACTS say that they are not a problem in the US

Can't speak for the EU but there are logistical reasons for why the US is unaffected by extremism

Islam has verses where they can change how they behave temporarily until they become the majority in the country to fit in better

@halfthink Google didn't say it, NBC did

(((The FACTS)))

I just quoted the night club. That one night killed more lgbt ppl than in the previous 10 years

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama prove it

Also "modern" islam is a low minority.

Islam isn't the majority so they aren't a problem

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama prove it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States

You don't trust Google but you trust Wikipedia?

And most terrorist level attacks by lgbt have been other lgbt

You just making shit up bruh

@RekItRalph prove it.

It at least has citations and its quick

Let's look at those citations shall we?

just like the biggest anti-lgbt republicans where exposed as having hired male prostitutes in the early 2000s?

They had the big gay?

Look what one of the citations said https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/violence-crime/comparison-hate-crime-rates-update/

Plus, Muslims are 1% of the US. How can they be the largest contributor to hatecrime? That doesn't even make sense

@RekItRalph And does that data tell me the race of the perpetrator?

Just showing "there's lots of hate crimes against gays" does not prove your point.

oh my god you fucking pleb you could have just Googled that https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/offenders

Also according to that data jews have more property crimes against them proportionally

And I'd argue property crime is worse

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/08/self-loathing-gay-people-shame

Also lgbt ppl are EXTREMLY likely yo abuse their partners

You could make the case that blacks disproportionately commit hatecrimes. But to say rednecks don't kill gays is wrong

@RekItRalph And blacks are 20% of hate crime perpetrators. Do you know how much blacks make out of total population?

Lgbt ppl kill lgbt ppl

More than rednecks do

"Blacks are only 13 percent of the population, how could they commit over half the murders in America? That doesn't make sense."

And your guardian article proves that?

@Bookworm Bingo.

https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

@Bookworm https://youtu.be/GWwiUIVpmNY

Well if a non gay kills a gay, its a hate crime

I mean the statistic for black people makes more sense when you take the fatherlessness into account

if a gay kills a gay, its called diveristy

no wait, thats black on black

The guardian does not say gays on gay hatecrimes are the majority

they literally just gave a few single examples

Are you guys familliar with something called "confirmation bias"

Id have to look into the murders and see how many of then were also lgbt

But its not normal for someone to plan to kill 20 ppl in a pride event or to to actually kill close 2 50 ppl. Both examples are gay and would be about 70 ppl

Blacks commit almost twice as many per hate crimes per capita as whites. And that's even with the fact that 48% of racial hatecrimes are anti-black where as anti-white makes 17%. (Though this is probably a statistical lie, and refusal to acknowledge that "reverse racism" even exists. Since if you remove "hate crime" and just ask if blacks kill more whites than white kill blacks, it's no longer whitey oppressing darkies anymore.)

And again lgbt suffer serious domestic abuse from their partners

https://assets2.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/Hatecrimesandviolenceagainstlgbtpeople_2009.pdf

The registered hatecrimes by blacks are thus more likely against gays since they refuse to acknowledge anti-white hate.

page 11 "Predictors of Bias
and Sexual Prejudice "

You guys have so many theories but no proof

imagine that

There's no leftist conspiricy against truth. You guys are just wrong because you dun learn nigger

@RekItRalph Except there is.

post it

For example, when police station is given an order not to register race of perpetrator, you can be damn sure there's a political motivation behind it.

Ok who would rape a transgender?

Faggot.

don't care, show the proof

If I was a rapist I would get halfway into it and quit when I find the dick ngl

awwww just text but still no proof

What? Do I need to get halfway into rape for you?

You wouldn't accept a proof if it hit you in the forehead. I ain't going to bother.

No wonder society is distancing themselves from you

Because you have no proof

You should send me another uncertified domain with plain HTTP

Ok, prove me that hate crimes even exist.

Uhhhh, I just posted a fuckton of FBI URC data

That's not proof.

I don't think hate itself is a crime

They break down the crimes

Now you're just playing word games

I noticed people play with semantics when they are backed into a corner LOL

I'm hardly a part of this argument so I can't be in a corner

hate crimes always have the problem of " was it because they were x? or just happened to be a different race/sex/sexuality"

Does that list you have show who did the hate crimes and their demogtaphics?

To be fair, It wouldn't surprise me if blacks commit more anti-gay hatecrimes proportional to their population

but to say that rednecks don't arm gays goes against the facts I posted

I decided not to argue with you anymore after you failed to prove you read those 4 articles

Cause if they never caught the perp and got the motivation

Jesus fuck, everything you are on about is explained. READ THE SHIT I POSTED

The same FBI stats also show that blacks are insanely more violent than whitey. And blacks kill whites more than whites do blacks. They also show that police is more likely to shoot a white suspect than a black one, if you adjust them to rate of interactions they have with their subjects (i.e adjust it to per capita of criminals/suspects).

Well florida and texas have a good.lgbt population and have rednecks

I've never heard of anti-bisexual crime