which makes government irrelevant

Ttaditonalism would kill society as we k ow iy

and we can't have that

which also makes the arts irrelevant

We need as many jobs as possible to keep everyone employed no matter how mundane they are

art was killed by industrial scale processing

processing and publishing*

The world would literally collapse if we lost mcdonalds

im not afraid the old and established arts will go anywhere, im more so concerned with the new arts. the old arts are already old and they always will be thats what gives them security

well

not always. the older forms of art, high art; was predicated on generous donations from the aristocracy and royalty.

you need to have tradition in order keep it culturally relevant.

art isn't just the people who create it and/or consume it

it's the people who fund it and whatever industries or sectors that make it possible.

and tradition will gain importance the faster we chase for the future

not really.

tradition is something that is ingrained in an individual during their formative years.

it's not something that has objective value.

unless you're a hipster, inwhich case it only has value if it is something foreign

my point comes from the fact we've never conserved more than in the modern times

Tradition has been thrown away over and over. Even christianity was a betrayal of tradition. There was something else before that. Weve definetly throw more away the more we modernize

Even monogamy is a fairly new concept, or the nuclear family

monogamy is not a new concept

i lost 12 IQ points just reading your inane drivel

I gotta get my hands dirty. And a few hundred years is fairly new.

monogamy has been around since before recorded history

Well ill retract what i said somewhat, since not all humans believe in monogamy.

the societies that don't practise monogamy are few and far between.

just because there are a few exceptions to the rule, does not mean that the rule is disproven, or that it should no longer apply.

Well when i said what i said i had abrahamic religions in mind minus islam. I was wrong to say monogamy is new.

In nature the norm is Serial monogamy... a couple get together and have and raise an off spring... after the child is raised they will split up... the next common is the harem

@ʇooNʇooN *"i'd argue that tim's lack of indoctrination from higher education has meant that he's more able to inform himself and avoid the biases that are taught to people who go through the degree mill"*
...and despite that, he still managed to become a feminist anarchocommunist via skate boarding culture and listening to punk music.

Even though he has lately (although slowly) backed away from such nonsense.

He still uses "redlining" argument for "institutional racism", etc. nonsense. What about lead pipes, lead paint and the good old slavery. How can niggers have high IQ because of slavery?

blacks usually dont have a high degree yet 70% vote democrat

Higher eduction doesnt exactly protect you from biases

Yeah, you don't need to go to university to become "progressive". Niggers manage to do it just fine.

In my experience it makes people far more entrenched in their own ideas

Sure, they don't become all the way progressive. Just "gibs me dats" while beating up gays like rednecks do (in their imagination).

Niggers are the true rednecks.

When you have a bias at somepoint you have to ask yourself why you feel that way