Then boom NATO. A big FU to stalin about staying out.

In short. Imagine what would happen in Iraq or Afghanistan if the US pulled out overnight. Internal conflict

So much text

My brain just exploded

_sweeps up brain parts_

Sorry

Man, looking closer at the results from the midterms.. Fuck the libertarian party. Don't they know they're going to fail during a time when failure isn't an option? Why not just fucking be republican until there is overwhelming control and there can be concessions made?

Dems won like 4 senate seats because of libertarian party votes.

funny, you sound like the dems in 2016

he said libertarians should become part of the rep party

dems just said vote dem because orange man bad, so it's a bit better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

don't blame the libertarians. they're just voting their conscience as is their right. blame the democrats for """finding""" tens of thousands of ballots days after the election was over.

i really have no clue how this is going to play out. florida is especially fucked up, with some parts of the government refusing the follow the law or the orders of other parts of the government.

we're going to get into a situation where both candidates declare themselves elected and there's no way to conclusive prove the other wrong.

the least awful solution would be to declare votes from the counties that have violated state election law as invalid, and arrest their election officials.

I had similar thoughts, though less vitriolic.

It's a little frustrating, but I'm not going to begrudge the Libertarians for voting for the candidate they actually want instead of voting for a compromise candidate.

No hes literally saying the same thing

"Why are you voting for a third party? We cant afford to fail so vote for my party, its the less evil/better choice

"Just be a party member until you have majority control and then im sure theyll work with you"

And I get the pragmatism of that approach.

A third party will never be established if its members refuse to vote for their guy during the election

But a third party is never going to get off the ground until they can mobilize enough support, and the best way of doing that is, well, supporting their candidates and getting the awareness out.

Yeah.

Their party will never happen if they align themselves wholeheartedly with an already existing political party no matter how much influence they get. Whatever support and influence they are able to wield will not be as an influence group within a party rather than as a distinct political party.

Saying that once the third party has majority control the main group will work with you is worthless because at that point the influence of the other parties means nothing.

It's less a matter of pragmatically getting some concessions and more a matter of political sovereignty.

If any political group is going to stand on principle, it's the libertarians.

```North of germany, south of norway :wink:```
So you#re one of those people coming over to Germany go buy booze @4AM_critter 🐉 ? 😉

Objectivism yay or nay?

no

because you must not objectify Womxn

shut up faggot

fag up shuggot

what a nice entry into a Discord Server...

lol

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not

😐

Nuances in your voice are not really transmitted well in written form. Tone is difficult to read.

But can you objectify men? <:PepoThink:477498566495961099>

Men have rights in this forsaken world`??

no

They have the right to "man up"

As the president of NOW said in the Red Pill Movie.

So, boobs or ass? I'm a boob girl myself.

Funny thing about being a girl married to a girl. I objectify women all the time. My wife has a lovely rack. Quite comfy to snuggle into at night. :-)

Being bi I objectify men too. Strong arms to lose myself in make me melt. A man with an accent and strong arms will leave me a puddle on the floor...assuming he treats me right of course.

My point is that anyone with a libido or memories of one will objectify. It's in our genes. We should revel in it. It makes us human.

That said, we have higher brains for a reason and our "come hither" physical and behavioral traits are just one part of us. If someone defined us by those traits that can be objectified, that's sad. Because we all are so much more than our ass, abs, boobs, hair, etc.

This is likely the libertarian in me. You don't hear about left-leaning libertarians like you do right-leaning, but we exist.

And I agree, libertarians are perhaps the most principled.

Speaking of the elections, in many ways it demonstrates the potential glory of the 10th Amendment that will become more evident if the more conservative courts go the direction we're being sold.

Just look at all the propositions and referendums this time around.

WV prepared for much more latitude to control abortion by ensuring it will be as restricted as they are permitted to make it. On the other coast, OR votes in a supermajority to continue using public money for abortions.

Three states vote to permit Medicaid expansion and a fourth elects a governor who will implement a vote from last year. But MT votes down a cigarette tax that leaves that state potentially withdrawing from expansion.

Oregon votes to permit sugary drinks to be taxed but next door Washington votes to stop such taxes.

I hope we see more such heterogeneity among states. Let them experiment and show what works and what doesn't. Americans can then choose to live in the environment that makes them happy.

It will make Red States redder and Blue States bluer for sure, but maybe we might get some states go on different directions than that. Perhaps NH might be able to show us what a libertarian state would look like.

Boobs and the First Amendment

@DrYuriMom is that legit because that really reads like a copypasta

Huh? Which what?

> women on the internet

of course it's copypasta

Copy what?

What is a copypasta?

What are frogs?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=copypasta

Huh

All I'll say is that I wrote my own words.

It represents my thinking accurately

Aight, that's cool

the way you phrased it sounded like a pasta though, somehow.

That's all

No worries. I'm still learning a lot about the places on the internet I never knew existed until I reached out a few weeks back and started trying to understand how half the nation was clearly happy with someone I see as an uncouth bully in the White House.

I've voted Republican and found common ground with Reagan and the Bushes. Trump just seems to have come from outer space and I'm trying to fathom how half of America can see him as just fine.

Maybe someone rude who completes his checklist, in the modern context, is more desirable than someone polite who gets stonewalled

also doesnt help that his opponent was Hillary

So you're pretty recent to internet social circles? @DrYuriMom

@DrYuriMom we just wanted to play vidya games :v

oh no, this chat is filled with gabbergoblins. I'm telling tumblr

I've been on the internet since 1993 and before that I participated in Fidonet. But the internet is a strange place where you can relate to people all over the world but still surround yourself entirely with people like you.

I only realized this with the election of Mr Trump

I got a whiff of it when I'd play games like WoT, but I'd just turn off general chat and attribute the banter to foreigners

I now know that was the banter of fellow Americans

It's been a shock, but I'm dedicated to reaching out and understanding.

you missed the golden age of a lot of social circles tbh

Apparently

Banter is weird

@DrYuriMom between

fuCK

between 4chan, reddit, and a few other choice sources all interacting for over ten years

the slang and lingo and injokes havre become esoteric at best and incomprehensible at worst

Very late to the party, but its an important topic so ill give my input anyway

Chest pillows over butts 100% of the time

Theres a lot of disagreement about what constitutes a "successful" ideology, nation or economic system. My view is that it is ultimately decided by where people want to live.

Overtime people will move to where they think they can have a better chance at living a good life, regardless of if its within a nation or across borders.

In the US people are moving out of Illinois at an astonishing rate. I plan to leave aswell because I dont see a future here and it really sucks having to put up with the increased taxes that are sure to come to balance our deficit which is measured in the billions.

Seeing as I have no ass but C cups, I appreciate boob love :-)

we haven't yet seen a nation with an ideology that leads to a high level of material prosperity for all its citizens, while yielding little or no personal freedom.

I moved out of illinois

Good on you